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Fine Universities that are denying free speech.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    markodaly wrote: »
    Yes, that is the thing.

    It is easy being a keyboard warrior stating that you will collect the teeth of your Nazi victims in the absence of rule of law.

    The keyboard warriors forget that if such a system would exist that those Nazi's would be armed with semi-automatic weapons and would kill anyone who be brave enough to confront them.

    Don't bring a knife to a gunfight.

    There's a vid online of a group of far left students burning an American flag in a public park. They're you're typical early 20s pencil neck geek types.

    A motorcycle club get wind of this and come down. I should stress that these were not Nazis or skinheads. I believe they were a veterans club.

    It was funny to see how quickly the nerds dispersed when confronted with a group of scary looking muscle bound men.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Seen this recent tweet/post.

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    For anyone who uses the term " hate speech " , do you think what the guy is reported to of shouted to be " hate speech " ? & if so what do you think should be done about it ?

    The guy is an idiot. That's about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,941 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Seen this recent tweet/post.

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    For anyone who uses the term " hate speech " , do you think what the guy is reported to of shouted to be " hate speech " ? & if so what do you think should be done about it ?

    Thats not what hate speech is.

    Person is whats called an a**hole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    There's a vid online of a group of far left students burning an American flag in a public park. They're you're typical early 20s pencil neck geek types.

    A motorcycle club get wind of this and come down. I should stress that these were not Nazis or skinheads. I believe they were a veterans club.

    It was funny to see how quickly the nerds dispersed when confronted with a group of scary looking muscle bound men.


    Yes. It's great to see a gang of thugs enforcing the law. Sorry, it's great to see a gang of thugs enforcing a law that doesn't exist. Apologies, it's great to see a gang of thugs intimidating students. MAGA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,071 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Yes. It's great to see a gang of thugs enforcing the law. Sorry, it's great to see a gang of thugs enforcing a law that doesn't exist. Apologies, it's great to see a gang of thugs intimidating students. MAGA.

    Isn't this what many on the far left want, some sort of anarchist state where might is right, until of course they are confronted with might, where they run away with the tails between their legs?

    As an aside, does any other country in the world burn its own flag as much as some Americans do? We do not do it in Ireland (Loyalists do it but they don't indentify as Irish anyway.)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    markodaly wrote: »
    Isn't this what many on the far left want, some sort of anarchist state where might is right, until of course they are confronted with might, where they run away with the tails between their legs?

    As an aside, does any other country in the world burn its own flag as much as some Americans do? We do not do it in Ireland (Loyalists do it but they don't indentify as Irish anyway.)

    I haven't a clue what those students wanted. Just a bunch of thugs intimidating students as far as I'm concerned.

    No, we don't. What we do is write sh1te like 'Mullingar Reds On The Piss' across the flag or hang it upside down so it becomes the Ivory Coast flag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,071 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    I haven't a clue what those students wanted. Just a bunch of thugs intimidating students as far as I'm concerned.


    Young wanna be thugs being intimated by actual thugs. Welcome to adulthood boys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    markodaly wrote: »
    Young wanna be thugs being intimated by actual thugs. Welcome to adulthood boys.

    Nope. Law-abiding young men being intimidated by thugs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭The Legend Of Kira


    There's a vid online of a group of far left students burning an American flag in a public park. They're you're typical early 20s pencil neck geek types.

    A motorcycle club get wind of this and come down. I should stress that these were not Nazis or skinheads. I believe they were a veterans club.

    It was funny to see how quickly the nerds dispersed when confronted with a group of scary looking muscle bound men.


    Yes. It's great to see a gang of thugs enforcing the law. Sorry, it's great to see a gang of thugs enforcing a law that doesn't exist. Apologies, it's great to see a gang of thugs intimidating students. MAGA.
    I could say the exact same thing about self appointed activists who like to block other people from attending political meetings/political events " a gang of thugs enforcing a law that doesn't exist " as there is no law against attending political meetings/political events.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,019 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    I could say the exact same thing about self appointed activists who like to block other people from attending political meetings/political events " a gang of thugs enforcing a law that doesn't exist " as there is no law against attending political meetings/political events.

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    Apart from chanting and moving a table across a door, they didn't do very much. They weren't a bunch of thugs intimidating and threatening people. However, free speech should be protected and they should have been stopped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,071 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    I suppose free speech winning again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,972 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    20Cent wrote: »
    There are more than two genders thats biology not politics.

    Also refusing to stop talking out of turn, angry outbursts erc. Suppose if Nazi's can be given time to talk then everyine should spend every class shouting.

    Since when? Biology says there is just a Y chromosome and an X chromosome which dictates what sex you will be, now if you want to say 'gender' is state of mind and is not the same as sex fine but you can not say it is biology, have things changed recently? Honest question.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,070 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Since when? Biology says there is just a Y chromosome and an X chromosome which dictates what sex you will be, now if you want to say 'gender' is state of mind and is not the same as sex fine but you can not say it is biology, have things changed recently? Honest question.

    Hermaphroditism?

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭Red_Wake


    Brian? wrote: »
    Since when? Biology says there is just a Y chromosome and an X chromosome which dictates what sex you will be, now if you want to say 'gender' is state of mind and is not the same as sex fine but you can not say it is biology, have things changed recently? Honest question.

    Hermaphroditism?
    Are we content to say there are 3 genders so?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,972 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    Brian? wrote: »
    Hermaphroditism?

    Yes but that is a genetic defect...or maybe I am not allowed say that any more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,941 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Red_Wake wrote: »
    Are we content to say there are 3 genders so?


    Regarding genes humans can have XX,XY, XXY , XXYY, X, or XXX.
    Gender refers to something more complex than genes it includes the characteristics of that society and the person themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭Havockk


    markodaly wrote: »
    I suppose free speech winning again.

    Winning by failing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭Red_Wake


    20Cent wrote: »
    Red_Wake wrote: »
    Are we content to say there are 3 genders so?


    Regarding genes humans can have XX,XY, XXY , XXYY, X,  or XXX.
    Gender refers to something more complex than genes it includes the characteristics of that society and the person themselves.
    Out of curiosity, how many of these combinations would be capable of further breeding, in general.

    Obviously, there are individuals with the XX/XY who are incapable of procreation, but for the others, would infertility be considered the exception or the norm?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,653 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Mod: Stay on topic please.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,070 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    markodaly wrote: »
    Young wanna be thugs being intimated by actual thugs. Welcome to adulthood boys.

    What exactly makes the flag burners thugs?

    They’re expressing their opinions by burning a piece of material.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,019 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    Hate speech is generally against people, not a country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,019 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,070 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    Probably, yes. But it’s still free speech, a protected right.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,071 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Brian? wrote: »
    What exactly makes the flag burners thugs?

    They’re expressing their opinions by burning a piece of material.

    Yes, I would somewhat agree.

    They are free to burn a flag as its protected under free speech, and the people who turned up are free to protest that. I do not see anything illegal happen in that video. There was no violence from what I can see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 658 ✭✭✭johnp001


    markodaly wrote: »
    Yes, I would somewhat agree.

    They are free to burn a flag as its protected under hate speech, and the people who turned up are free to protest that. I do not see anything illegal happen in that video. There was no violence from what I can see.

    Exactly, there didn't seem like there was a massively disproportionate use of force.
    Freedom of speech doesn't imply protection from the reaction of others to what you say.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,070 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    markodaly wrote: »
    Yes, I would somewhat agree.

    They are free to burn a flag as its protected under free speech, and the people who turned up are free to protest that. I do not see anything illegal happen in that video. There was no violence from what I can see.

    So why did you call both sides thugs?

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭The Legend Of Kira


    This post had been deleted.

    Hate speech is generally against people, not a country.[/quote]
    A flag represents people as in it represents the citizens/people of a country, , & burning a flag is burning something representive to a whole group of people .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,071 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    A flag represents people as in it represents the citizens/people of a country, , & burning a flag is burning something representive to a whole group of people .

    If a group burned the rainbow flag, you can be sure that it would viewed on by many of the left as hate speech.


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