Room to Improve.

Thargor · 12-03-2018 01:50PM

So did anyone manage to watch that whole episode thinking they were a lesbian couple instead of sisters?

Addle · 12-03-2018 02:01PM

A couple wouldn't get on as well.

prunudo · 12-03-2018 02:25PM

Must have been finished recently enough as there was snow on Lambay in some of the finishing shots.
Was enjoyable episode. I think he over estimated the size of 900 on purpose, to scare them into not putting a door in. He knows well how big 900 is. Also I like the fact the orginal cottage stands out from the front. Its of an era, the modern extension has been added on so why make it look like something its not.

Mr_Man2121 · 12-03-2018 02:43PM

Thargor wrote: »

So did anyone manage to watch that whole episode thinking they were a lesbian couple instead of sisters?

If they didn't look alike I would of thought it

ted1 · 12-03-2018 02:57PM

Penn wrote: »

youcancallmeal wrote: »

How on earth was the colonnade going to cost €8,000+!? It looked from the drawings to just be a few brick columns connected by concrete beams.

Independent pad foundation for each column
Labour/Machinery to get the columns/beams in place
Structural design & certification for the columns/beams
Fabrication/Construction of the columns/beams themselves
Works to walls already constructed which the beams would be tying into (since it was an add-on)
Finishing/rendering works

It can add up fairly quickly.

They could have made it out of wood for less than 1,000 and it would have giving the same effect

12-03-2018 02:58PM

Thargor wrote: »

So did anyone manage to watch that whole episode thinking they were a lesbian couple instead of sisters?

No

they look alike, they said they were sisters.............................. and I'm sure their Ma knows they're sisters too!

Penn · 12-03-2018 03:06PM

ted1 wrote: »

They could have made it out of wood for less than 1,000 and it would have giving the same effect

Probably not 1,000. You'd still need sufficient bearing for the posts which may still require pad foundations or some type of concrete base to bolt into, proper connections to the wall, high quality finished timber and obviously the skilled labourers to do it which would also involve possibly erecting scaffolding for it.

Plus doing it in timber would have clashed with the burnt larch finish to the extension unless you clad the timber in burnt larch too.

Just saying, there can be a lot of hidden costs to things such as this. Even Dermot seems unaware of the work involved in some of his ideas. Hence the need for a QS.

Sleepy · 12-03-2018 03:44PM

jvan wrote: »

Must have been finished recently enough as there was snow on Lambay in some of the finishing shots.

The hoardings only came down about a fortnight ago. We'd been watching progress on this for a while as we've always loved the location of the house and pass it regularly.

PARlance · 12-03-2018 03:58PM

Thargor wrote: »

So did anyone manage to watch that whole episode thinking they were a lesbian couple instead of sisters?

They got on far too well to be mistaken for a couple.

Utopia Parkway · 12-03-2018 04:29PM

Enjoyable episode. A bit more light hearted than some recent ones thanks to the fantastic granny and her one liners. And a more realistic build that some of the more recent ostentatious ones. Felt for her a bit in that tiny box room though with the end of the bed almost hitting the far wall.

That said all I could think afterwards was who exactly had the 6 year old and how? And where's the father? Nobody's business obviously but it's difficult not to be curious. It was an unusual set-up with the granny, two older daughters and a 6 year old in tow. It was pretty much the main topic of discussion in our house.

Sleepy · 12-03-2018 04:53PM

They said at the start of the show, the younger of the sisters is his mum. Given that she's living with her Ma and sister, it's fair to assume she's no longer with the father. It's not exactly the type of thing you'd want to be discussing on telly if it were your family, is it? Particularly when the show you're featuring on is about architecture and renovations rather than modern family setups.

BabysCoffee · 12-03-2018 07:40PM

Sleepy wrote: »

They said at the start of the show, the younger of the sisters is his mum. Given that she's living with her Ma and sister, it's fair to assume she's no longer with the father. It's not exactly the type of thing you'd want to be discussing on telly if it were your family, is it? Particularly when the show you're featuring on is about architecture and renovations rather than modern family setups.

Couldn't figure out which was the younger sister

I think at this point RTI is more of a reality show - it's a bit light on architecture.....eg Dermot making scones in a kitchen is not exactly architecture - I couldn't see Kevin McCloud doing this rather than talking about design

GavRedKing · 12-03-2018 07:43PM

I'm going to turn on one day and an extra 25-75k wont be added to the budget.

Whatever the client says is the budget, is exactly what will be spent.

One can dream.

flandabieduzie · 12-03-2018 09:27PM

Happy4all wrote: »

Ma's love child?

Exactly what I was thinking! Herself and Dermots. Hence the awkward sexual tension between them! He pulled a few strings to get that grant to prevent her going to the papers with it!!! Dermots middle name is Michael!!!!!!!!!! (I may have fabricated that part!) ðŸ˜

Could be wrong though!

GT_TDI_150 · 12-03-2018 10:00PM

Just rewatched it..

The brief was get us a seaview...

Not sure how people were expecting him to get the views they wanted without raising a floor somewhere...

The must have been very set on keeping the origional structures ( the cottage due to their dad restoring it, the stone wall / coal hut because it seperates them from the caravan park?) because the end product looked awful from the outside...
The roof height of the entire place should have matched the cottage imo...

'Ma' appeared to get a raw deal with the size of the room alright but for all we know the didnt want a bigger room (even when it was explained how little room there was to manoevre)... plenty auwl ones and auwl fellas are set in their ways and she may just have said that she wanted the same size room as before.

downwesht · 12-03-2018 10:04PM

After all the speculation about Michael,next weeks episode will be renamed

Womb to Improve

I'll get me coat

cathy427 · 12-03-2018 10:12PM

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

Just rewatched it..

The brief was get us a seaview...

Not sure how people were expecting him to get the views they wanted without raising a floor somewhere...

The must have been very set on keeping the origional structures ( the cottage due to their dad restoring it, the stone wall / coal hut because it seperates them from the caravan park?) because the end product looked awful from the outside...
The roof height of the entire place should have matched the cottage imo...

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Exacto - The sheds were the boundary from the caravan park and integrating them would also have made the clients part of the caravan park. (The park does take up almost the entire headland - valuable piece of land!!)

Grand episode but I think I am done. Yet again
- Dermot puts two ugly square boxes onto a bungalow (ok its often just one ugly box)
- Dermot goes way over budget.

Owning the site I would have thought a €250k budget was a decent budget (I assume with the budget was always really €300k but that would have made a boring show.)
As other posters have said in an hour long show it would have been nice to hear more about the grants that an guy generating smoke and testing with phone! (Ok phone is fine for testing cause if airtight then no oxygen for fire/smoke) But a few minutes on bringing an old house up to modern A3 standards would have been interesting.

AndrewJRenko · 12-03-2018 10:19PM

ted1 wrote: »

They paid more money thsn 40k in taxes for the build.

Believe me it didn’t cost the tax payers anything.

Except that it did - it cost the taxpayers the €43k paid in the grant - that's real cash out the door, gone into someone's bank account.

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Residential emissions north of 25% of total carbon emissions.

You'll be paying the fines for missing the targets as well.

But yeah, that's the spirit, Ted.

That misses the point. Yes, we have problems with residential emissions, but why would the State target its scarce resources to help those who have most resources themselves? They are the ones who will benefit from the reduced bills, so why should the state subsidise this? If the state has resources to spend on residential energy improvements, surely it should target its resources at those who have least resources themselves? Otherwise, it's just another rich-get-richer and poor-get-poorer scheme.

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

The steps up to the sitting area surely are gonna be an issue for ma in the near future. Bit of a stupid design idea

It's particularly disappointing, given that Dermot is involved in this multi-generational design project
http://architectureireland.ie/the-abhaile-project
The steps are a big problem, no consideration that she might need a bathroom with a chair, or maybe even a hoist - no future proofing at all really.

cathy427 · 12-03-2018 10:19PM

Oh, and I could care less about the parentage of the kid. In fairness it was explained who he was at the start - it was classic people busy tweeting and "boardsing" about the show and thus missing key points of the show!!! I don't mean that to be as grumpy as it sounds but you get the point - the modern thing of being so busy trying to record/video the event that people miss the event.

If the brother was amenable they could have built a fab new house up higher (in corner of current caravan park and blocked off park from house as with current set up) with easy achievable and fabulous views and in return made the existing house area part of caravan park so he has same amount of ground albeit not as good views. (I know the difficulty was ma wanted to keep old bungalow and they didn't want her living alone anymore so keeping existing and building new wasn't an option - just in an ideal world)

Sleepy · 12-03-2018 11:07PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

If the state has resources to spend on residential energy improvements, surely it should target its resources at those who have least resources themselves? Otherwise, it's just another rich-get-richer and poor-get-poorer scheme.

If you look into the scheme on the seai site, it appears to be 50% for groups representing 5 or more houses or 95% for Housing Associations or those "in energy poverty" (based on the Warmer Homes Scheme). As the granny would be the legal home-owner, assuming she gets the Fuel Allowance along with her pension, she'd have qualified under this as like most means tests or taxation laws in this country, it's based on income, rather than wealth.

Alf Veedersane · 12-03-2018 11:34PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

That misses the point. Yes, we have problems with residential emissions, but why would the State target its scarce resources to help those who have most resources themselves? They are the ones who will benefit from the reduced bills, so why should the state subsidise this? If the state has resources to spend on residential energy improvements, surely it should target its resources at those who have least resources themselves? Otherwise, it's just another rich-get-richer and poor-get-poorer

The Warmer Homes Scheme, mentioned above, is there for those with the least resources, no?

There doesn't have to be one grant scheme for all. There are different programmes.

liam7831 · 12-03-2018 11:41PM

I missed the start of it, was it Dermot's own family home with his mother being on it ?

Franz Von Peppercorn · 12-03-2018 11:53PM

Sleepy wrote: »

The hoardings only came down about a fortnight ago. We'd been watching progress on this for a while as we've always loved the location of the house and pass it regularly.

Wow. This series is cutting it tight. Fair play to the production team.

cathy427 · 13-03-2018 01:00AM

liam7831 wrote: »

I missed the start of it, was it Dermot's own family home with his mother being on it ?

Yes, ya, it was indeed. Thats it.
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https://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/room-to-improve-839/10849930/?ap=1

13-03-2018 03:36AM

At the start of the episode the voice-over chap says 'Anna's son Michael'.

13-03-2018 08:19AM

cathy427 wrote: »

Yes, ya, it was indeed. Thats it.
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https://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/room-to-improve-839/10849930/?ap=1

:D:D

amdublin · 13-03-2018 09:16AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

At the start of the episode the voice-over chap says 'Anna's son Michael'.

For me I was expecting a teenager or early 20s chap. And then this little teeny 6 year old appears.

So I know he is the son of one of them. it's the age of the little boy versus mammy that threw me.

gmisk · 13-03-2018 10:09AM

amdublin wrote: »

For me I was expecting a teenager or early 20s chap. And then this little teeny 6 year old appears.

So I know he is the son of one of them. it's the age of the little boy versus mammy that threw me.

I am guessing as my mum said he was "a wee late one"

ncmc · 13-03-2018 10:37AM

gmisk wrote: »

I am guessing as my mum said he was "a wee late one"

I’m gonna go one further and say IVF/sperm doner! Poor Anna, private life raked over the coals on the Internet! Yet another reason why I would never go on RTI!

ted1 · 13-03-2018 11:58AM

cathy427 wrote: »

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

Just rewatched it..

The brief was get us a seaview...

Not sure how people were expecting him to get the views they wanted without raising a floor somewhere...

The must have been very set on keeping the origional structures ( the cottage due to their dad restoring it, the stone wall / coal hut because it seperates them from the caravan park?) because the end product looked awful from the outside...
The roof height of the entire place should have matched the cottage imo...

.

Exacto - The sheds were the boundary from the caravan park and integrating them would also have made the clients part of the caravan park. (The park does take up almost the entire headland - valuable piece of land!!)

Grand episode but I think I am done. Yet again
- Dermot puts two ugly square boxes onto a bungalow (ok its often just one ugly box)
- Dermot goes way over budget.

Owning the site I would have thought a €250k budget was a decent budget (I assume with the budget was always really €300k but that would have made a boring show.)
As other posters have said in an hour long show it would have been nice to hear more about the grants that an guy generating smoke and testing with phone! (Ok phone is fine for testing cause if airtight then no oxygen for fire/smoke) But a few minutes on bringing an old house up to modern A3 standards would have been interesting.

Thats not in the shows brief. You should watch eco eye

Room to Improve.

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