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The 8th amendment(Mod warning in op)

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  • #9002
    statesaver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    david75 wrote: »
    It’s worse than that. Watching that march yesterday.. predominantly elderly people and their really young grandkids and countless amounts of really intense Americans somehow that came over to take part.None of whom can vote here.
    The march went that slowly literally because
    It’s participants aren’t exactly up to walking that far or that fast.
    People not long for this world groping at the bodily autonomy and reproductive rights of young women in this country for years to come is really sinister.

    From the reports on the news and from pictures on the internet I saw lots and lots of young voting age women. From reading your post and many other pro choice posts you would swear that all young voting age women are pro choice which I don’t think is true.

    Btw, I am an undecided voter


  • #9003
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    statesaver wrote: »
    From the reports on the news and from pictures on the internet I saw lots and lots of young voting age women. From reading your post and many other pro choice posts you would swear that all young voting age women are pro choice which I don’t think I true.

    Btw, I am an undecided voter


    I might have been too maybe.
    I can’t tell anymore tbh. that girl Fatima from youth defence was at a Repeal march last year holding a sign saying ‘abort terminally ill babies’. But then this week she was outside the dail holding a sign saying she’s ‘a bad ass pro life feminist(her words). She clearly doesn’t understand contradiction’ in word or concept. Hopefully ‘transparent nonsense’ is within her limited grasp.

    Bored to death at laughing at the pro life campaign. I’d like to have really taken it seriously and heard some different opinions. The carry on this week alone is repugnant.

    100,000 tons of bull****


  • #9004
    applehunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭applehunter


    david75 wrote: »
    It’s worse than that. Watching that march yesterday.. predominantly elderly people and their really young grandkids and countless amounts of really intense Americans somehow that came over to take part.None of whom can vote here.
    The march went that slowly literally because
    It’s participants aren’t exactly up to walking that far or that fast.
    People not long for this world groping at the bodily autonomy and reproductive rights of young women in this country for years to come is really sinister.

    I had 3 aunts who are doctors on the march yesterday including one consultant involved in Doctors for Life.

    They are all recently retired and in their 60s and have been dealing with pregnant women coming through their practices over the last 40 years.

    They all walked at the same pace as I did. We didn't walk through College Green. Bar O'Connell St. we walked the least intrusive route for a Saturday in Dublin.

    Did you ever walk out of Croke Park after a Dubs match through Jones Road? That is what it was like.

    Whatever about these Americans that came over, there was a decent number from the 6 counties at the march yesterday that AFAIK won't have a vote in the referendum.

    Maybe that will give you some comfort David.


  • #9005
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    applehunter wrote: »
    I had 3 aunts who are doctors on the march yesterday including one consultant involved in Doctors for Life.

    They are all recently retired and in their 60s and have been dealing with pregnant women coming through their practices over the last 40 years.

    They all walked at the same pace as I did. We didn't walk through College Green. Bar O'Connell St. we walked the least intrusive route for a Saturday in Dublin.

    Did you ever walk out of Croke Park after a Dubs match through Jones Road? That is what it was like.

    Whatever about these Americans that came over, there was a decent number from the 6 counties at the march yesterday that AFAIK won't have a vote in the referendum.

    Maybe that will give you some comfort David.

    It was a lovely day for it. Dublin is lovely in the sunshine. Almost an entirely different place when the sun shines to be honest. Hope you all had a good day.
    As for the 6 counties and our American visitors I don’t know, I seem to remember the same omnipresent self appointed mouthpieces complaining about outside interference in our marriage equality campaign and the interference being unwelcome. But somehow the same self appointed mouthpieces celebrating this interference and involvement on this debate all of a sudden ? Not to mention the money.

    It’s of no matter. The future doesn’t belong to me or you or your aunts. It belongs to the most clued in, educated, progressive, and sound youth in all Europe.

    Ireland is about to grow up and shake the shame off. Finally.


  • #9006
    statesaver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    david75 wrote: »

    Ireland is about to grow up and shake the shame off. Finally.

    ‘Shake the shame off’. I don’t get that. What is shameful about wanting to protect the unborn.


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  • #9007
    Fred Swanson
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  • #9008
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    statesaver wrote: »
    ‘Shake the shame off’. I don’t get that. What is shameful about wanting to protect the unborn.

    Are you new here? Have you just arrived? Honest question. Magdalene laundries. 700 babies in a septic tank in tuam. Industrial schools. And endless rapist priests being protected and hidden from justice by the church. That shame. Now were gonna let women make their own decisions for themselves. Don’t worry. It won’t affect you. At. All.


  • #9009
    statesaver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    david75 wrote: »
    Are you new here? Have you just arrived? Honest question. Magdalene laundries. 700 babies in a septic tank in tuam. Industrial schools. And endless rapist priests being protected and hidden from justice by the church. That shame. Now were gonna let women make their own decisions for themselves. Don’t worry. It won’t affect you. At. All.

    That shame ok. Although I don’t know why I should feel ashamed, I am not a Catholic, did not part take in anything or cover up anything. People who did are the ones who should feel shame.

    This is a thread about Repealing the 8th not about the many sins of the Catholic Church.

    I do like staying on topic.


  • #9010
    applehunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭applehunter


    david75 wrote: »
    It was a lovely day for it. Dublin is lovely in the sunshine. Almost an entirely different place when the sun shines to be honest. Hope you all had a good day.
    As for the 6 counties and our American visitors I don’t know, I seem to remember the same omnipresent self appointed mouthpieces complaining about outside interference in our marriage equality campaign and the interference being unwelcome. But somehow the same self appointed mouthpieces celebrating this interference and involvement on this debate all of a sudden ? Not to mention the money.

    It’s of no matter. The future doesn’t belong to me or you or your aunts. It belongs to the most clued in, educated, progressive, and sound youth in all Europe.

    Ireland is about to grow up and shake the shame off. Finally.

    I must have missed the memo.

    I must excuse myself. Sure what would doctors dealing with pregnant women know? They haven't lived in the future.

    All hail "the most clued in, educated, progressive, and sound youth in all Europe."

    What party do they represent?


  • #9011
    Bonniedog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    Sexual abuse and cover ups are not the sole province of any creed, race or political ideology.

    Ask Brid Smith about the rape culture in her party - the SWP, not whatever alphabet soup they hide behind; or McDonald about Adams protecting his child rapist brother and numerous others at high levels it would seem.

    Secular Britain is uncovering a horror story of abuse as we speak, but of course there are political reasons why left has nothing to say about it, and indeed was and is complicit in protecting the predators.


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  • #9012
    Fred Swanson
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  • #9013
    gandalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    And we're off again.....

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  • #9014
    Oldtree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    applehunter wrote: »
    Sure what would doctors dealing with pregnant women know? They haven't lived in the future.

    Doctors are not obliged to give information on abortion in Ireland and have been in a legal quandary for many years. The referendum will sort that out for them, allowing them to provide a complete medical service where appropriate.


  • #9015
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    statesaver wrote: »
    That shame ok. Although I don’t know why I should feel ashamed, I am not a Catholic, did not part take in anything or cover up anything. People who did are the ones who should feel shame.

    This is a thread about Repealing the 8th not about the many sins of the Catholic Church.

    I do like staying on topic.

    You did ask.


  • #9016
    Fred Swanson
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  • #9017
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    applehunter wrote: »
    I must have missed the memo.

    I must excuse myself. Sure what would doctors dealing with pregnant women know? They haven't lived in the future.

    All hail "the most clued in, educated, progressive, and sound youth in all Europe."

    What party do they represent?

    Youth defence are claiming they’re doctors now?

    Oh wait. That’s probably exactly what they’re claiming.


    You’re excused.


  • #9018
    Oldtree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
    As a man I would have severe problems accessing information on vasectomies in Ireland. Every sperm is sacred.

    Here you go bruv, every sperm is blessed :D

    http://vasectomyireland.ie/


  • #9019
    applehunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭applehunter


    Oldtree wrote: »
    Doctors are not obliged to give information on abortion in Ireland and have been in a legal quandary for many years. The referendum will sort that out for them, allowing them to provide a complete medical service where appropriate.

    This referendum could legalise killing our unborn.

    You call this the "complete medical service"

    #euphomism.


  • #9020
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Every sperm is sacred? Seriously?

    I’ve some consecrated socks and maybe a t shirt if you’re stuck?


  • #9021
    Oldtree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    applehunter wrote: »
    This referendum could legalise killing our unborn.

    You call this the "complete medical service"

    #euphomism.

    Yes, it will allow for a complete medical care scheme for Irish women including terminations.

    #what's with the hash tag business?


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  • #9022
    Oldtree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    david75 wrote: »
    Every sperm is sacred? Seriously?

    I’ve some consecrated socks and maybe a t shirt if you’re stuck?

    I think he is referring to the life of Brian tune, I was!


  • #9023
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Oldtree wrote: »
    I think he is referring to the life of Brian tune, I was!

    Ah man. Only saying last night we need to watch that again. And withnail. It’s been too long


  • #9024
    applehunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭applehunter


    Oldtree wrote: »
    Yes, it will allow for a complete medical care scheme for Irish women including terminations.

    #what's with the hash tag business?

    It's from twitter.

    It is supposed to crystallize an opinion. That is what I as trying to do anyway. I'm not on twitter but I tune in and watch from the gallery.

    i'm a dinosaur compared with the "most clued in, educated, progressive, and sound youth in all Europe"

    #Couldn't resist:pac:


  • #9025
    Oldtree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    applehunter wrote: »
    It's from twitter.

    It is supposed to crystallize an opinion. That is what I as trying to do anyway. I'm not on twitter but I tune in and watch from the gallery.

    i'm a dinosaur compared with the "most clued in, educated, progressive, and sound youth in all Europe"

    #Couldn't resist:pac:

    The twitter machine dosn't work out this way ;)


  • #9026
    applehunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭applehunter


    Oldtree wrote: »
    The twitter machine dosn't work out this way ;)

    Thank God for Boards.:)


  • #9027
    Oldtree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    applehunter wrote: »
    Thank God for Boards.:)

    Thank Boards for Boards :)


  • #9028
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    applehunter wrote: »
    It's from twitter.

    It is supposed to crystallize an opinion. That is what I as trying to do anyway. I'm not on twitter but I tune in and watch from the gallery.

    i'm a dinosaur compared with the "most clued in, educated, progressive, and sound youth in all Europe"

    #Couldn't resist:pac:

    Hey go easy on dinosaurs!!
    Their remains are kinda important. Their opinions, not so much. We’d be dinner for them. They often ate their young too. Crazy lizards.


  • #9029
    applehunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭applehunter


    eviltwin wrote: »
    I brought my son to the pro choice march last year, he's 8. He doesn't understand abortion but he knew we were marching so women could have agency over their own body, he understands that concept well. It's up to each parent to decide what their child needs to know and every child is different. I don't think taking a child to any march regardless of your "side" is wrong, I just know I'd rather my kids marched with those who are now judgemental, open minded and supportive.

    It is definitely something to consider.

    I think as kids they will remember the whole pageantry of the occasion and the music etc.

    I remember vividly in the 80s being "around" when my father was involved with the Progressive Democrats when they were a real growing party under O'Malley. I couldn't tell you a thing about their policies at that time but the blues and yellows of the various hats and flags are etched in my memory.

    PD's would probably be a "repeal" party as proposed if they were still in involved in politics today.

    It makes for some interesting conversations with my father recently.

    He will be voting for repeal as of now.


  • #9030
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    The pro life rally last year right in front of the dail was almost entirely elderly people and their grandkids. Listening to that American woman that claims she survived an abortion and ‘climbed out of the bucket.’ Her exact words.

    Wonderful stuff for little kids to be listening to. Here. Have a pro life balloon.


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  • #9031
    applehunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭applehunter


    david75 wrote: »
    The pro life rally last year right in front of the dail was almost entirely elderly people and their grandkids. Listening to that American woman that claims she survived an abortion and ‘climbed out of the bucket.’ Her exact words.

    Wonderful stuff for little kids to be listening to. Here. Have a pro life ballon.

    Sound like the premise for a great Superhero movie.

    Have Marvel the rights?

    Now there is a movie that would break box office records.

    But of course Hollywood would block such a movie being made.


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