Dublin GAA Discussion Thread - Capital Punishment

Bonniedog · 05-03-2018 7:39pm

BPKS wrote: »

Having the game at 4 o clock is not helping us travel from Kerry. Assume it’s for tv?

Roads to be frosty too. Checked Eir and it isn't on their schedule. None for TnaG yet but would imagine they'll have Galway/Limerick as main match. Perhaps starting time at 4 is to allow live coverage from Croke Park?

Ronan Raver77 · 05-03-2018 11:07pm

Sunday, perfect for me

06-03-2018 4:48pm

Bonniedog wrote: »

Roads to be frosty too. Checked Eir and it isn't on their schedule. None for TnaG yet but would imagine they'll have Galway/Limerick as main match. Perhaps starting time at 4 is to allow live coverage from Croke Park?

On eirsport.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/eir-sport-to-televise-dublinkerry-clash-on-sunday-36674047.html

gormdubhgorm · 06-03-2018 9:08pm

If you brought tickets before the game was postponed can you re-use them or whats the craic with it?

ProudDUB · 06-03-2018 9:19pm

Yep. Current tickets are good for the rescheduled fixtures.

If you want to get a refund, you can get one wherever you bought the ticket.

Fann Linn · 07-03-2018 8:44am

Brogan hoping to be back in time for August according to Morning Ireland.

lustig2014 · 08-03-2018 4:14pm

My Dublin hurling season ticket is going spare for anyone travelling down to Laois on Sunday.

Its also going spare for the all ireland club finals on paddies

gormdubhgorm · 08-03-2018 8:26pm

Ronan Raver77 wrote: »

Sunday, perfect for me

Not for the hurlers though

Dublin v Kerry 16:00 Croke Park

v

Dublin v Laois 14:30 portlaoise

ProudDUB · 08-03-2018 8:51pm

Very little build up to the Kerry game. Bit of a contrast to last year 'innit?

Bonniedog · 08-03-2018 8:57pm

ProudDUB wrote: »

Very little build up to the Kerry game. Bit of a contrast to last year 'innit?

Another example of bad marketing. You would think they'd spend a few bob pushing this game with family concessions etc and make it a 40,000+ attendance.

IRFU would sell tickets for Leinster playing a pit team from south Wales, because they do their promotion properly. Core league attendance for Dublin in CP has increased and is historically probably highest ever, but there there are still a lot of more casual supporters who may not even know there is a match.

ProudDUB · 08-03-2018 9:04pm

Don't think it's lack of marketing per se. Dublin v Kerry tends to sell itself. Tralee last year, needed or got zero marketing and it was all everyone was talking about the week before. Papers were full it it, all the columnists were getting their spake in, the former players were setting out their stalls etc etc. There seems to be very little of kind of stuff this year. Maybe the KMM's heart just isn't in it, coz they realised that even if they win this game, or go on to repeat as league camp-e-oh-nays, it don't mean jack squat come September.

CatInABox · 08-03-2018 9:08pm

Last year was all about Dublins unbeaten streak, no? Papers were full of it because everyone thought that Kerry would put an end to it before Dublin past the old Kerry record.

There's nothing like that this year.

ProudDUB · 08-03-2018 9:09pm

Oh yeah, I forgot about the streak.

Ken Tucky · 09-03-2018 9:43am

ProudDUB wrote: »

Oh yeah, I forgot about the streak.

Love that. I said at the time it wasnt as important to us as it seemed to be for everybody else(well, at least until the last five minutes of the Tralee game:D)
Now, some of us cant even remember that it happened.

Thats what having the eyes on the big prize brings. Dont worry about the small stuff as its only the trophies that matter.

ProudDUB · 09-03-2018 10:12am

Yep. I had never even heard of a streak existing in the first place, until the meeja began blathering on about it.

Mind you, I did roar myself hoarse during those last 5 mins in Tralee, more than I ever have for a Leinster champ game. That was some craic alright. But soon forgotten, in the grand scheme of things. A bit like horsing a massive amount of Chinese grub (or sushi) into ya. It's great at the time, but you are starving again an hour later.

gormdubhgorm · 09-03-2018 11:54am

Bonniedog wrote: »

Another example of bad marketing. You would think they'd spend a few bob pushing this game with family concessions etc and make it a 40,000+ attendance.

IRFU would sell tickets for Leinster playing a pit team from south Wales, because they do their promotion properly. Core league attendance for Dublin in CP has increased and is historically probably highest ever, but there there are still a lot of more casual supporters who may not even know there is a match.

Yeah that is one of the things the GAA are terrible at.
They could not be bothered marketing games half the time.

They used to go on about the "Spring Series" and really ramp the hype up.
I remember when Armagh played Dublin in a league game in croke park (Armagh were in thier pomp)
Despite hailstones and all sorts there was about 55k /60k at the game.
Dublin got well beaten I seem to remember.

Now thier marketing department seems to sit on thier @rse most of the time!

A good PR marketing crowd should be able to jazz up the league and even get better crowds in division 4.
Get a bit of a buzz going.

I think it is an awful shame the league is a sleeping giant.
Yet they sh*te on about the championship during the summer.
Even when the draw in made in October with Marty Morrissey saying halfheartedly "Louth v Carlow 1st round of Leinster football championship it is an interesting tie there....."

Dyr · 09-03-2018 1:25pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

They used to go on about the "Spring Series" and really ramp the hype up.

Sitting in Croke Park in JANUARY freezing me bollix off listening to some clown on the PA welcoming everyone to the "GAA Spring Series"

That's GAA marketing for ya

Bonniedog · 09-03-2018 9:55pm

Just seen the hurlers line up for Sunday. McCaffrey is starting at lhb:

Nolan, Smyth, O'Carroll, O'Donnell, Barrett, Crummy, McCaffrey; Connolly, McGibb; Burke, Keaney, Suthcliffe, Hayes, Dwyer, Winters.

Laois are 3/1.

End of communication ...

Slattsy · 09-03-2018 10:27pm

3s seems fair.

Could help my Cheltenham coffers.

Bonniedog · 09-03-2018 10:43pm

Wouldn't bet against them, but whoever decide they are 2/7 favourites has not been paying attention!

Fact is that there is little or nothing to separate Dublin from Laois on league form. Indeed it could be argued that Laois have performed better, as indicated by a 13 point better scoring difference.

If it was in Parnell I would reckon Dublin might shade it by 4/5 points. Being down there, I wouldn't be in the least confident. Hope I am wrong.

Fann Linn · 10-03-2018 3:09pm

DUBLIN (SF v Kerry)

1. Stephen Cluxton Parnell's
2. Jonny Cooper Na Fianna
3. David Byrne Naomh Olaf
4. Eric Lowndes St Peregrine's
5. James McCarthy Ballymun Kickhams
6. Cian O'Sullivan Kilmacud Crokes
7. John Small Ballymun Kickhams
8. Brian Fenton Raheny
9. Michael Darragh Macauley Ballyboden St Enda's
10. Niall Scully Templeogue Synge Street
11. Ciarán Kilkenny Castleknock
12. Brian Howard Raheny
13. Paddy Andrews St Brigid's
14. Dean Rock Ballymun Kickhams
15. Colm Basquel Ballyboden St Enda's

Fann Linn · 10-03-2018 3:10pm

DUBLIN (SH v Laois)

1. Alan Nolan - St Brigid's

2. Paddy Smyth - Clontarf

3. Bill O'Carroll - Kilmacud Crokes

4. Eoghan O'Donnell - Whitehall Colmcille

5. Shane Barrett - Na Fianna

6. Chris Crummey - Lucan Sarsfields

7. John McCaffrey - Lucan Sarsfields

8. Tomás Connolly - St Vincent’s

9. Fiontán McGibb - Setanta

10. Donal Burke - Na Fianna

11. Conal Keaney - Ballyboden St Enda's

12. Danny Sutcliffe - St Jude’s

13. Ronan Hayes - Kilmacud Crokes

14. Ryan O'Dwyer - Kilmacud Crokes

15. Paul Winters - St Brigid's

Bonniedog · 10-03-2018 5:21pm

Have spare Hill ticket - free - if anyone wants it. Can leave it behind bar in Gills. PM me if interested.

Drumpot · 11-03-2018 1:08pm

can you just go up to the stadium and pay in or is it ticket only ?

Bonniedog · 11-03-2018 1:15pm

You have to buy them at offices/kiosks around the ground.

Slattsy · 11-03-2018 2:47pm

A fairly blistering start from the hurdlers.

JRant · 11-03-2018 4:40pm

Looks like the Kingdom have brought there usual tactics to this game.

Didn't get to see the hurlers today but that's a great win.

LuckyGent88 · 11-03-2018 4:49pm

JRant wrote: »

Looks like the Kingdom have brought there usual tactics to this game.

Didn't get to see the hurlers today but that's a great win.

Lol... yee are well able to give it yourselves. Kerry have blown 2 goals chances and yee were gifted a couple of frees when they should have went the other way.

Dublin’s experience is too much for Kerry though and will pull away to win comfortably in the end

STB. · 11-03-2018 5:02pm

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Lol... yee are well able to give it yourselves. Kerry have blown 2 goals chances and yee were gifted a couple of frees when they should have went the other way.

Dublin’s experience is too much for Kerry though and will pull away to win comfortably in the end

2-13 0-08 @50mins. 2 goal chances missed by Dublin.

Close game though.....

Grandeeod · 11-03-2018 5:05pm

I've no choice but to listen to the game on Radio Kerry. Jaysus! They're not commentators. They sound like two lads sitting in the stands.:D

washman3 · 11-03-2018 5:10pm

Grandeeod wrote: »

I've no choice but to listen to the game on Radio Kerry. Jaysus! They're not commentators. They sound like two lads sitting in the stands.:D

They sound like half-drunk lads sitting on barstools watching it on tv.

Grandeeod · 11-03-2018 5:18pm

washman3 wrote: »

They sound like half-drunk lads sitting on barstools watching it on tv.

Its turning into a bit of a wake now. Sounds like they're on a few short ones standing over the coffin. Not as entertaining anymore.

Dyr · 11-03-2018 5:32pm

You can see why Kerry pick up so many cards, very little discipline.

11-03-2018 5:32pm

Thread title accurate. Its capital punishment dished out to Kerry........

JRant · 11-03-2018 5:44pm

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Lol... yee are well able to give it yourselves. Kerry have blown 2 goals chances and yee were gifted a couple of frees when they should have went the other way.

Dublin’s experience is too much for Kerry though and will pull away to win comfortably in the end

An exhibition of football by one team and "Pulling and Dragging" by another. How Kerry finished with 15 men on the field is beyond me.

Anyway, great to see the lads put their foot on Kerry's throat and not let up. That could have been even more embarrassing only for the woodwork saving them a few times.

Cooper, MDM and Kilkenny we stand out performers but the whole team upped their performance.

Clifford did well but was cutting a lone figure for the entire second half.

JRant · 11-03-2018 6:46pm

Anyone at the hurling themselves?
Haven't heard much about the performance today.

JustJoe7240 · 11-03-2018 7:12pm

Footballers were awesome, So clinical in counter, Either side could have knocked a goal or two onto their scoring.

Some Dub supporters are tragic, So biased, One lad screaming blue murder when Small was put to the line. Shouting Waaaaheyyyy when ever anyone kicks a wide is pretty pathetic at this stage, especially when their team were so dominant.

Stoner · 11-03-2018 7:14pm

LuckyGent88 wrote:

Lol... yee are well able to give it yourselves. Kerry have blown 2 goals chances and yee were gifted a couple of frees when they should have went the other way.

Not really in all fairness, tbh the Kerry lads are not set up to play that type of football IMO.
Dublin were well able to take the Kerry style, but it's not really a game plan that Kerry have the players for imo. MDMA knocked the absolute sh1t out of every Kerry player that tried to bottle him up.

When Moran came on he played some football, got a mark and he looked far more comfortable and closer to auctually playing football.

When that rubbish style didn't work Kerry had no plan B. They have some great players, management seem to be trying a different style, however I think that squad needs a new direction.

Imagine trying that against Mayo later on in the year, the Mayo lads would lap it up and win on frees alone.

OldMrBrennan83 · 11-03-2018 7:15pm

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blanch152 · 11-03-2018 7:31pm

Really enjoyable day in Croke Park. Anytime you hammer Kerry is a good time.

But, they were awful. Off the ball they were constantly fouling and pulling and dragging. Why the refs constantly let them away with it, I don't know. Even the Independent report says that Crowley and McCarthy were lucky not to see the line.

Their tactic for the kick-outs was to pull and drag their marker to force the ball long. It didn't work. Cluxton had a great game.

Their players really don't have the strength, conditioning and stamina to play that kind of game for 70 mins. Mayo can do it, and the Northern teams are professional at it, but Kerry were a poor imitation.

When they actually played ball, they had a few good players - Clifford and O'Shea looked good. Geaney as always put in a good shift.

For us, Kilkenny, Cooper, Fenton and Scully were very good. O'Sullivan struggled with Clifford at the start, he is not as good a man-marker as he used to be.

The League is shaping up strangely. Tyrone, Kerry and Mayo seem to be almost going backwards with Monaghan and Galway now the strongest behind Dublin. Complacency and injuries are the biggest danger to Dublin now.

corny · 11-03-2018 7:56pm

Again its striking how physically dominant Dublin are in the league. Kerry tried to mix it early but in truth it hastened their demise. Dublin had the juice to keep going in the last 20 but chose to kill it instead. Had they....they would have ended up with a cricket score.

Both sides were at the pulling and dragging. We're kidding ourselves if we think Dublin aren't up for that stuff. John Small is gonna earn himself a reputation with refs soon enough. His 'man marking' is getting less and less subtle in games. He wouldn't leave that poor centre forward alone.:D

Lots of good performances. Brian Howard looks to the manner born. McCauley is in tremendous shape. KK should play edge of the square all the time. His pace and power are a nightmare to deal with and that adds more to the team than his passive playmaker role.

Negatives? Basquel needs to be more active and show as an option. He didn't come close to matching Andrews' and Rocks' workrate. You'd be hopeful he'll settle in and that'll come though.

CatInABox · 11-03-2018 8:06pm

Was very impressed with MDMA, thought he looked the best he has in years.

Overall, an entertaining first half, the second half didn't really have the same vibe at all, all one way traffic, was pretty clear that Kerry ran out of both juice and ideas.

Delighted that the Hurlers got the win, and convincingly too. Considering how bad some of the games were, it's almost feels like bonus territory to avoid the relegation scrap.

gormdubhgorm · 11-03-2018 8:08pm

It will be interesting to see the development / evolution of these two sides over the next four / five years.

The Kerry team should be at the top of thier game by then.
Dublin will have a very different starting team then they do now.

But if Jim or the next manager after him keeps gradually introducing fresh blood to "the process"
there could be some terrific games in the next few years.

I am looking forward to that.
Plus in four/five years time that great Mayo generation will be gone, so we won't have to listen to them whinging about losing finals because they won't be in them.

It will be 1970's history repeated aging streetwise Dublin team v young Kerry pups?

blanch152 · 11-03-2018 8:22pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

It will be interesting to see the development / evolution of these two sides over the next four / five years.

The Kerry team should be at the top of thier game by then.
Dublin will have a very different starting team then they do now.

But if Jim or the next manager after him keeps gradually introducing fresh blood to "the process"
there could be some terrific games in the next few years.

I am looking forward to that.
Plus in four/five years time that great Mayo generation will be gone, so we won't have to listen to them whinging about losing finals because they won't be in them.

In four years time, Dublin could put out this team:

Comerford
Cooper-Byrne-Murchan
Lowndes-Small-McCaffrey
Fenton-McCarthy
Scully-O'Callaghan-Howard
Costello-Kilkenny-Mannion

Subs: McHugh, Basquel, Reddin, Carthy, etc.

McCarthy and Cooper are 28 and seem to have the hunger to keep going. The rest are still well young enough to play for many more years.

Bonniedog · 11-03-2018 8:26pm

Am I correct in thinking that Dublin have Tipp in Parnell? Can't see them beating them but be good last run out before playing Kilkenny there in May. Not been talking to anyone yet who was there but from radio updates seems it was over in first ten minutes. so fair play to them for doing the business.

What can you say about the footballers! Unless they get some sort of head staggers or a really bad ref -not mentioning anyone from Down - they will not be beaten this year.

Kerry were dreadful and as always when they know they are out-mastered try to drag teams into the gutter.

DoctaDee · 11-03-2018 8:34pm

As Corny says let's not be kidding ourselves, we're well up for mixing it if the occasion arises, I wouldn't be boo hooing about it - there was a time we were knocked from pillar to post by the kingdom.

Likewise, I'd cut their players some slack, they've some really good footballers and some great potential in the young lads but they're hamstrung by the ineptness on the sideline

JRant · 11-03-2018 8:53pm

DoctaDee wrote: »

As Corny says let's not be kidding ourselves, we're well up for mixing it if the occasion arises, I wouldn't be boo hooing about it - there was a time we were knocked from pillar to post by the kingdom.

Likewise, I'd cut their players some slack, they've some really good footballers and some great potential in the young lads but they're hamstrung by the ineptness on the sideline

I don't think anyone would argue our lads are not well versed in the dark arts but call a spade a spade here. No team under Gavin would carry on the way Kerry did today. The only reason they didn't finish with 13 on the field was the ref taking pity on a team taking a hiding.

Kerry have some smashing young footballers which is why handing them their arsês today was important. The longer Fitzy stays at the helm, the better as far as I'm concerned.

ProudDUB · 11-03-2018 8:54pm

Of course we're well capable of mixing it with the best of them. The hilarious thing about all the off the ball dirt and pulling and dragging from Kerry today, is that it is totally over looked, amid all the fanfare to crown young Clifford and Co the new princes of pure football. Whereas we have the likes of Paul Kimmage having fits of the vapours, if we so much as look at anyone sideways. That is what pisses Dub fans off. The double standard that Kerry get judged by and the one that everyone else gets judged on.

Stoner · 11-03-2018 9:05pm

I was delighted to see Paddy Small getting a run.

His running and ball winning ability was very good. A number of scores resulted from his play.
That four years ahead team named above would have him in it IMO.

He's strong, can pass and can score. His runs off the ball will have Paddy Andrews looking over his shoulder.

gormdubhgorm · 11-03-2018 9:07pm

Grandeeod wrote: »

I've no choice but to listen to the game on Radio Kerry. Jaysus! They're not commentators. They sound like two lads sitting in the stands.:D

How long did it take them to say the ref is not having the best of games (when a decision went against Kaaar-eee ?)

I always find those parochical local radio commentators gas.
They are just one stage away from "Effin Eddie".

I had to listen to the radio limerick (Live 95fm or whatever it was) commentary on radio for the Dublin Limerick hurling match.

Commentator kept referring to Dublin player Fergal Whitely as Fergal "Wit-lee"

10 / 15 minutes later commentator says:

"I got a text in here.

It says Fergal 'Witlee's' name is pronounced 'White-lee'

And he should know.... because he says he is his first cousin....

So we will go by that so"

So for the rest of the game he interchanged between 'Wit-lee... White-lee...'

Dublin GAA Discussion Thread - Capital Punishment

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