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The Academies

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  • #1742
    FrannoFan
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    irishfan9 wrote: »
    Thought eoghan clarke was pretty good at hooker, could see him pushing for a Leinster academy place, given need at the position.

    Agree. Was impressed by him.went to Monkstown. Know much else about him?


  • #1743
    irishfan9
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    FrannoFan wrote: »
    Agree. Was impressed by him.went to Monkstown. Know much else about him?

    Seapoint RFC mini, played 8 last year for CBC, prior to that he played prop. Made Ireland u18 as a LH Prop. Moved to hooker due to size afaik. Playing AIL this year for Wanderers.


  • #1744
    irishfan9
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    Unless something major happens, Harry Byrne almost certain to get an academy place over Conor Dean IMO.

    Hope to see more of Patterson at 9 to see if he has the stuff for an academy place.

    Think Jordan Duggan has been good but not on the level of any of the looseheads who have made the leinster academy recently.

    Jack Dunne/Cormac Daly both look good enough for an academy place.


  • #1745
    irishfan9
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    Leinster potential academy next season would look like:

    Prop
    Vakh Abdaladze(22/Clontarf) - Academy Yr 2
    Jack Aungier(19/St. Marys) - Academy Yr 2

    Hooker
    Ronan Kelleher(20/Lansdowne) - Academy Yr 2
    Eoghan Clarke(20/Wanderers) - Academy Yr 1

    2nd Row
    Oisin Dowling(21/Lansdowne) - Academy Yr 2
    Cormac Daly(20/Clontarf) - Academy Yr 1
    Jack Dunne(19/DUFC) - Academy Yr 1

    Backrow
    Will Connors(22/UCD) - Academy Yr 3

    Scrumhalf
    Hugh O'Sullivan(20/Clontarf) - Academy Yr 2
    Patrick Patterson(19-20/UCD) - Academy Yr 1

    Outhalf
    Harry Byrne(20/UCD) - Academy Yr 1

    Centre/Outhalf
    Ciaran Frawley(20/UCD) - Academy Yr 2
    David Hawkshaw(18-19/Clontarf) - Academy Yr 1

    Centre
    Conor O'Brien(22/Clontarf) - Academy Yr 3
    Jimmy O'Brien(21/UCD) - Academy Yr 3
    Gavin Mullin(20/UCD) - Academy Yr 2

    Back Three
    Hugo Keenan(22/UCD) - Academy Yr 3
    Jack Kelly(20/DUFC) - Academy Yr 3
    Tommy O'Brien(20/UCD) - Academy Yr 2
    Michael Silvester(20/DUFC) - Academy Yr 1


  • #1746
    Muligatawney
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    irishfan9 wrote: »
    Leinster potential academy next season would look like:

    Prop
    Vakh Abdaladze(22) - Academy Yr 2
    Jack Aungier(19) - Academy Yr 2

    Hooker
    Ronan Kelleher(20) - Academy Yr 2
    Eoghan Clarke(20) - Academy Yr 1

    2nd Row
    Oisin Dowling(21) - Academy Yr 2
    Cormac Daly(20) - Academy Yr 1
    Jack Dunne(19) - Academy Yr 1

    Backrow
    Will Connors(22) - Academy Yr 3

    Scrumhalf
    Hugh O'Sullivan(20) - Academy Yr 2
    Patrick Patterson(19-20) - Academy Yr 1

    Outhalf
    Harry Byrne(20) - Academy Yr 1

    Centre/Outhalf
    Ciaran Frawley(20) - Academy Yr 2
    David Hawkshaw(18-19) - Academy Yr 1

    Centre
    Conor O'Brien(22) - Academy Yr 3
    Jimmy O'Brien(21) - Academy Yr 3
    Gavin Mullin(20) - Academy Yr 2

    Back Three
    Hugo Keenan(22) - Academy Yr 3
    Jack Kelly(20) - Academy Yr 3
    Tommy O'Brien(20) - Academy Yr 2
    Michael Silvester(20) - Academy Yr 1
    Is there anyone else that would be a potential back row addition? You'd think with Heaslip and Murphy going, as well as Timmins potentially, that they would want a couple of guys just for depth if anything.


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  • #1747
    Ayewserious
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    irishfan9 wrote: »
    Leinster potential academy next season would look like:

    Prop
    Vakh Abdaladze(22) - Academy Yr 2
    Jack Aungier(19) - Academy Yr 2

    Hooker
    Ronan Kelleher(20) - Academy Yr 2
    Eoghan Clarke(20) - Academy Yr 1

    2nd Row
    Oisin Dowling(21) - Academy Yr 2
    Cormac Daly(20) - Academy Yr 1
    Jack Dunne(19) - Academy Yr 1

    Backrow
    Will Connors(22) - Academy Yr 3

    Scrumhalf
    Hugh O'Sullivan(20) - Academy Yr 2
    Patrick Patterson(19-20) - Academy Yr 1

    Outhalf
    Harry Byrne(20) - Academy Yr 1

    Centre/Outhalf
    Ciaran Frawley(20) - Academy Yr 2
    David Hawkshaw(18-19) - Academy Yr 1

    Centre
    Conor O'Brien(22) - Academy Yr 3
    Jimmy O'Brien(21) - Academy Yr 3
    Gavin Mullin(20) - Academy Yr 2

    Back Three
    Hugo Keenan(22) - Academy Yr 3
    Jack Kelly(20) - Academy Yr 3
    Tommy O'Brien(20) - Academy Yr 2
    Michael Silvester(20) - Academy Yr 1
    You forgot about Dorris and dean


  • #1748
    irishfan9
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    Muligatawney wrote: »
    Is there anyone else that would be a potential back row addition? You'd think with Heaslip and Murphy going, as well as Timmins potentially, that they would want a couple of guys just for depth if anything.

    Ronan Foley, Max Kearney and Scott Penny would be the most obvious candidates.

    I think Timmins will stick around.


  • #1749
    irishfan9
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    Ayewserious wrote: »
    You forgot about Dorris and dean

    I didn't... Doris is rumoured to be joining the senior squad next season.

    I don't think Dean will get an academy deal with Leinster, at least not right now.


  • #1750
    MDunne14
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    irishfan9 wrote: »
    Leinster potential academy next season would look like:

    Prop
    Vakh Abdaladze(22/Clontarf) - Academy Yr 2
    Jack Aungier(19/St. Marys) - Academy Yr 2

    Hooker
    Ronan Kelleher(20/Lansdowne) - Academy Yr 2
    Eoghan Clarke(20/Wanderers) - Academy Yr 1

    2nd Row
    Oisin Dowling(21/Lansdowne) - Academy Yr 2
    Cormac Daly(20/Clontarf) - Academy Yr 1
    Jack Dunne(19/DUFC) - Academy Yr 1

    Backrow
    Will Connors(22/UCD) - Academy Yr 3

    Scrumhalf
    Hugh O'Sullivan(20/Clontarf) - Academy Yr 2
    Patrick Patterson(19-20/UCD) - Academy Yr 1

    Outhalf
    Harry Byrne(20/UCD) - Academy Yr 1

    Centre/Outhalf
    Ciaran Frawley(20/UCD) - Academy Yr 2
    David Hawkshaw(18-19/Clontarf) - Academy Yr 1

    Centre
    Conor O'Brien(22/Clontarf) - Academy Yr 3
    Jimmy O'Brien(21/UCD) - Academy Yr 3
    Gavin Mullin(20/UCD) - Academy Yr 2

    Back Three
    Hugo Keenan(22/UCD) - Academy Yr 3
    Jack Kelly(20/DUFC) - Academy Yr 3
    Tommy O'Brien(20/UCD) - Academy Yr 2
    Michael Silvester(20/DUFC) - Academy Yr 1

    Harry Byrne is 18-19


  • #1751
    irishfan9
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    MDunne14 wrote: »
    Harry Byrne is 18-19

    Right you are 18, 19 in April IIRC.


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  • #1752
    irishfan9
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    I wonder if Leinster will be able to get David Lacey to give rugby a shot next season over GAA as a under-20. Is he a Tarf man?


  • #1753
    irishfan9
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    Academy players Cillian Gallagher, Conan O’Donnell and Peter Claffey have all signed senior professional contracts with the Connacht for the 2018/19 season.


  • #1754
    Tarf1234
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    irishfan9 wrote: »
    I wonder if Leinster will be able to get David Lacey to give rugby a shot next season over GAA as a under-20. Is he a Tarf man?
    We would be hopeful but no not a Tarf man. Very tough to turn the head of the Dubs lads


  • #1755
    irishfan9
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    Tarf1234 wrote: »
    We would be hopeful but no not a Tarf man. Very tough to turn the head of the Dubs lads

    Yeah, can't see it happening myself..


  • #1756
    The Lost Sheep
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    Posted this in Ulster thread but also should post it here. Ulsters talent coach talking about structures of academy and talent id

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F8ptmByxvo


  • #1757
    irishfan9
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    Game 1:
    Leinster U19s v Japan High Schools
    Date: Tuesday, 20 March 2018
    Venue: Donnybrook
    Kick-off: TBC

    Game 2:
    Ireland U19s v Japan High Schools
    Date: Saturday, 24 March 2018
    Venue: TBC
    Kick-off: TBC

    Game 3:
    Ireland U19s v Japan High Schools
    Date: Tuesday, 28 March 2017
    Venue: TBC
    Kick-off: TBC


  • #1758
    irishfan9
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2432&v=JuXrscBuOrU

    Leinster under-17 schools win against Canada.

    Leinster u17 Teamsheet versus Canada u19
    15. Ed Kelly(St. Michaels)
    14. Chris Grimes(Clongowes)
    13. Arthur Henry(Gonzaga)
    12. Justin Leonard(Belvedere)
    11. Josh Pyper(Pres Bray)
    10. David Wilkinson(Clongowes)
    9. Rob Gilsenan(St. Michaels)
    1. Jack Boyle(St. Michaels)
    2. Lee Barron(St. Michaels)
    3. Levi Vaughan(Terenure)
    4. Aaron Deegan(Terenure)
    5. Max Mellett(Castleknock)
    6. Gavin Meagher(Roscrea)
    7. Tom Gilheany(Clongowes)
    8. Jonathan Fish(St. Michaels)


  • #1759
    kingofthekong
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    Poor Canada team cant catch a break:

    Canada 17-56 Ireland Schools
    Canada 12-51 Ireland Schools
    Canada 27-39 Leinster u17
    Canada 3-26 Ulster DeV U19

    Last Game against Munster tomorrow


  • #1760
    FellasFellas
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    irishfan9 wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2432&v=JuXrscBuOrU

    Leinster under-17 schools win against Canada.

    Leinster u17 Teamsheet versus Canada u19
    15. Ed Kelly(St. Michaels)
    14. Chris Grimes(Clongowes)
    13. Arthur Henry(Gonzaga)
    12. Justin Leonard(Belvedere)
    11. Josh Pyper(Pres Bray)
    10. David Wilkinson(Clongowes)
    9. Rob Gilsenan(St. Michaels)
    1. Jack Boyle(St. Michaels)
    2. Lee Barron(St. Michaels)
    3. Levi Vaughan(Terenure)
    4. Aaron Deegan(Terenure)
    5. Max Mellett(Castleknock)
    6. Gavin Meagher(Roscrea)
    7. Tom Gilheany(Clongowes)
    8. Jonathan Fish(St. Michaels)

    Some impressive players on show. 13 and 14 very good. I assume the squad was very big?


  • #1761
    irishfan9
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    FellasFellas wrote: »
    Some impressive players on show. 13 and 14 very good. I assume the squad was very big?

    Yeah Des Berry posted the starting team for the game, but assume there was 8+ subs

    Sam O'Dowd(Pres Bray/Centre)
    Zach Harrison(St. Michaels/Wing)
    Sam Connolly(Roscrea/Prop)

    Were three of the subs anyway.


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  • #1762
    BigJimV
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    Forwards did well considering size of the Canadians, 2 years makes a big difference. Guys in Blue did well considering they only trained for 2 days prior to match. Lineouts worked well, back play was good. Nice move in the second half allowed winger to run in from half way line without a hand put on him.


  • #1763
    irishfan9
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    Jack Boyle who started at 1, isn't even 16 yet.


  • #1764
    irishfan9
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    Leinster u19 play a welsh side this weekend in Donnybrook.


  • #1765
    BigJimV
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    is there a U19 team sheet for this weekend? any more age leinster grade games happening? anybody here how Canada U19 got on against Munster? what kind of team did Munster put out?


  • #1766
    irishfan9
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    BigJimV wrote: »
    is there a U19 team sheet for this weekend? any more age leinster grade games happening? anybody here how Canada U19 got on against Munster? what kind of team did Munster put out?

    Canada lost to Ulster's u19 team for next sept.

    they defeated Munster u18 schools team for next sept. + a few club players.

    No u19 teamsheet, will be lucky to see anything, unless Des Berry reports on it again.

    No other age grade games I think.. maybe club team?

    Munster U18 Schools:
    15. Conor Sheehan(Castleisland RFC)
    14. Ikem Ugwueru(Shannon/Ennis RFC)
    13. Killian Dineen(Ard Scoil Ris)
    12. Harry O'Riordan(CBC)
    11. Aaron Leahy(CBC)
    10. Jack Delaney(Crescent)
    9. Mark O’Connor(CBC)
    1. Ciaran Ryan(Rockwell)
    2. Billy Kingston(PBC)
    3. Daragh Fitzgerald(Rugbaí Chorca Dhuibhne)
    4. Will O’Callaghan(Ard Scoil Ris)
    5. Luke Obersby(Midelton Collee)
    6. Donal Geaney(Castleisland RFC)
    7. Jack Ward Murphy(Ard Scoil Ris)
    8. Daniel Okeke(Ard Scoil Ris)
    16. Josh Skehan Fitzgerald(Crescent)
    17. Donagh Hyland(Glenstal)
    18. Craig Finn(St. Munchins)
    19. John Forde(PBC)
    20. Niall Queally(Glenstal)
    21. Richie Foley(PBC)
    22. Jack Connolly(Crescent)
    23. Ben Davey(Crescent)
    24. Dylan Farrelly(Rockwell)


  • #1767
    irishfan9
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    Ireland Schools U18:
    15. Max O'Reilly (St Gerard's School)
    14. Andrew Smith (St Michael's College)
    13. Karl Martin (St Mary's School, Drogheda)
    12. Angus Adair (RBAI)
    11. Aaron Sexton (Bangor GS)
    10. Paddy McKenzie (East Glendalough School)
    9. Nathan Doak (Wallace HS)
    1. John McKee (Campbell College, captain)
    2. Tom Stewart (Belfast Royal Academy)
    3. Charlie Ward (Tullow Community School)
    4. Sean O'Brien (Blackrock College)
    5. Tom Ahern (St Augustine's, Dungarvan)
    6. Anthony Ryan (Clongowes Wood College)
    7. Ryan O'Neill (RS Armagh)
    8. Alex Kendellen (PBC Cork)

    Reps: Padraig McCarthy (Colaiste Pobail Bheanntrai), Connor Morrissey (Mayfield CS), Fionn Finlay (St. Michael's College), Cian Hurley (CBC Cork), Conor McMenamin (Colaiste Ailigh), Ben Murphy (Presentation College Bray), David McCann (RBAI), Ben Power (Campbell College)


  • #1768
    irishfan9
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    They lost to Scotland and Wales, defeated Italy.


  • #1769
    irishfan9
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    I wonder what Leinster will do at scrumhalf, the options are:

    Paddy Patterson(u20/UCD-Blackrock) - in sub academy, missed start of season with injury. Made 1 appearance for Ireland u20 off bench, starting regularly in AIL.

    James Kenny(u20/Lansdowne-Gonzaga) - injured most of the season, has made a few appearances for Lansdowne under-20.

    Cormac Foley(u19/St. Gerards) - has been playing 12 this season in school, made Ireland u19 as a 9.

    Do they overlook both players at under-20 and wait for Foley?


  • #1770
    irishfan9
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    Munster u18 schools against Canada
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sXWUGfCyqE


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  • #1771
    gazump123
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    irishfan9 wrote: »
    Munster u18 schools against Canada
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sXWUGfCyqE

    Both Ireland u18 clubs and schools games against England Counties:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olTF6I8MpHg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqXgb0IOdLU


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