Womenageddon

Mr. CooL ICE · 08-03-2018 01:10PM

My girlfriend's turn to cook tonight. She objected because of women's day. I told her it was a bullsh1t excuse and she was cooking. But as a compromise, I promised not to fart this evening.

Assetbacked · 08-03-2018 01:15PM

seachto7 wrote: »

Well, not hiring right wing f*ckwits is a good thing.

Fascist view.

_Dara_ · 08-03-2018 01:20PM

Nicolas Cage wrote: »

My girlfriend's turn to cook tonight. She objected because of women's day. I told her it was a bullsh1t excuse and she was cooking. But as a compromise, I promised not to fart this evening.

No way would I be able to convince himself not to do one of his triumphant farts, women's day or no women's day.

seachto7 · 08-03-2018 01:22PM

Assetbacked wrote: »

Fascist view.

Potentially, and I see the point about Google elbowing out those with different points of view. A right winger obviously had no issues working with "left wing" Google until something triggered him....
Wow. In the name of diversity, I'd love to be sat beside a KKK supporter at work....

08-03-2018 01:26PM

Every single year
"what about men" - it's in November. I must set a reminder to start a thread whingeing about how i hate men

the_pen_turner · 08-03-2018 01:35PM

bluewolf wrote: »

Every single year
"what about men" - it's in November. I must set a reminder to start a thread whingeing about how i hate men

what annoys us fools is that mens day is widly ignored . it get almost no media coverage. a few minutes at best. and at that it is all about male suicide or baldness.
no debate about mens rights or equality issues.

look at womens dy and you have a week of promoting women and how wonderfull they are and blowing up any tiny issue into a huge issue .

all we want is the same treatment for mens issues and to stop over doing the womens issues

lets face it men face more gender discrimination in this country than women do.

seachto7 · 08-03-2018 01:37PM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

what annoys us fools is that mens day is widly ignored . it get almost no media coverage. a few minutes at best. and at that it is all about male suicide or baldness.
no debate about mens rights or equality issues.

look at womens dy and you have a week of promoting women and how wonderfull they are and blowing up any tiny issue into a huge issue .

all we want is the same treatment for mens issues and to stop over doing the womens issues

lets face it men face more gender discrimination in this country than women do.

The day isn't about how wonderful women are and going for cheap meals and prosecco with the girlzzz. That's not what it should be about.

What discrimination do men face in Ireland?

wes · 08-03-2018 01:37PM

pumpkin4life wrote: »

It's an open secret that in the docklands of Dublin, some of the firms there add points to people (HR department) for people who are a minority/gay etc in terms of the hiring process.

As someone who works in the area, I can't say I have heard any such thing and see no evidence of such either. Seems to be made up nonsense from the usual suspects.

pumpkin4life wrote: »

It even leaked a couple of months ago that Google were blacklisting employees who either had right wing views or visited right wing websites, or even both.

There are liberals who claim the same:
Ex-Google engineer: I was fired for being too liberal

It seems to me that the issue is people refusing to keep there politics out of the work place, rather than any particular ideology.

the_pen_turner · 08-03-2018 01:43PM

seachto7 wrote: »

The day isn't about how wonderful women are and going for cheap meals and prosecco with the girlzzz. That's not what it should be about.

What discrimination do men face in Ireland?

look at any of the mens rights threads and it will give you loads of examples. such as fathers right, paternaty rights, gender quotas on jobs , jobs that flatly refuse to hire men, etc.
but thats not what this thread is about

seachto7 · 08-03-2018 01:48PM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

look at any of the mens rights threads and it will give you loads of examples. such as fathers right, paternaty rights, gender quotas on jobs , jobs that flatly refuse to hire men, etc.
but thats not what this thread is about

This is true, and to be honest, I don't think about them, because they don't have any effect on me.

What jobs flatly refuse to hire men, out of curiosity?

I also disagree with gender quotas. I do agree with promoting more women to study engineering, or programming etc, as opposed to teaching etc, but disagree that a board on a company should *have* to have equal numbers of men and women. It's something to aspire to.

the_pen_turner · 08-03-2018 01:50PM

seachto7 wrote: »

These are wrong, and to be honest, I don't think about them, because they don't have any effect on me.

What jobs flatly refuse to hire men?

I also disagree with gender quotas.

i cant remeber which jobs they were. its in one of the other threads. i will have to look later. hopefully someone will point it out.

seachto7 · 08-03-2018 01:52PM

I also agree that if more and more men wanted to be hairdressers, or work in a creche, or nurses, it shouldn't be considered "odd" or "weird".

When there is no need for a "womens day" anymore, then that'll be progress.

Blacks in the US had to march for their rights as did Catholics in NI.

08-03-2018 01:56PM

seachto7 wrote: »

What discrimination do men face in Ireland?

Single fathers face a torrid time in courts, for one thing.

Also you said men should have no say in the abortion referendum/debate. Do you extend that point of view to women who are unable to have children?

jamesbere · 08-03-2018 01:56PM

Nicolas Cage wrote: »

My girlfriend's turn to cook tonight. She objected because of women's day. I told her it was a bullsh1t excuse and she was cooking. But as a compromise, I promised not to fart this evening.

Look at what this day is doing to your private life, you can't even fart in your own house

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 08-03-2018 01:59PM

I really, really wish people would be as fired up about making Men's Day a thing in the lead up to Men's Day as they are on Women's Day. Try and talk to or engage men with it closer to the time and...they just want to give out about Women's Day.

Women's Day didn't just spontaneously appear in its current form. People lobbied and organised and campaigned and held parties and marches and fundraisers.

Not happy with international men's day? Then fcuking DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

Cue moaning about how there's no point trying because wah wah feminists, something something brigade, moan moan safe space snowflakes. Probably with an irony free mention of how women and feminists have a victim complex.

Anyways, last year was great craic. I've to work but then I'm off to a Repeal fundraiser at a tattoo place. I'd imagine it'll end up like last year, load of beours wearing black, bladdered and complimenting the sh1t out of each other

demanufactured · 08-03-2018 02:06PM

Women should have a whole week dedicated to them once a month, period

retro:electro · 08-03-2018 02:06PM

Does anyone remember the IWD episode of Fair City last year? It’s etched in my brain forever. Pretty ashamed of myself for admitting this so someone better back me up here

Zulu · 08-03-2018 02:09PM

Honestly, it appears that there's far more people moaning about moaning, than moaning about wimmins day. It must get tiring at some point, no?

...and I appreciate that it may look like I'm moaning about moaning about moaning.

08-03-2018 02:09PM

Quentin Some Stick wrote: »

I really, really wish people would be as fired up about making Men's Day a thing in the lead up to Men's Day as they are on Women's Day. Try and talk to or engage men with it closer to the time and...they just want to give out about Women's Day.

Women's Day didn't just spontaneously appear in its current form. People lobbied and organised and campaigned and held parties and marches and fundraisers.

Not happy with international men's day? Then fcuking DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

Cue moaning about how there's no point trying because wah wah feminists, something something brigade, moan moan safe space snowflakes. Probably with an irony free mention of how women and feminists have a victim complex.

Anyways, last year was great craic. I've to work but then I'm off to a Repeal fundraiser at a tattoo place. I'd imagine it'll end up like last year, load of beours wearing black, bladdered and complimenting the sh1t out of each other

This is the thing, most men I speak to about it hate the tribalism and division. We don't want conflict about imagined slights against "us". We see how massive the divisive element is within "feminism" and we don't want to be a part of the BS.

El_Duderino 09 · 08-03-2018 02:12PM

bluewolf wrote: »

Every single year
"what about men" - it's in November. I must set a reminder to start a thread whingeing about how i hate men

I tried to drum up men's day in November in The Gentlemen's forum and it was mostly met with negativity from men. One clown who never fails to stick their oar in to any feminist issue said the only use for IMD was to 'flush out misandrist feminists'.

So if men don't get behind IMD, why would they be surprised that it's not as big as IWD? Some people wont lift their hand to help themselves, then declare themselves a victim when others actually do help themselves to get what they want.

Let women make as much fuss as they want. Let them highlight any issues they want. I'd be happier if men actually got on with promoting men's rights rather than whining, bitching and moaning about how much more effective feminism is.

eviltwin · 08-03-2018 02:12PM

Quentin Some Stick wrote: »

I really, really wish people would be as fired up about making Men's Day a thing in the lead up to Men's Day as they are on Women's Day. Try and talk to or engage men with it closer to the time and...they just want to give out about Women's Day.

Women's Day didn't just spontaneously appear in its current form. People lobbied and organised and campaigned and held parties and marches and fundraisers.

Not happy with international men's day? Then fcuking DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

Cue moaning about how there's no point trying because wah wah feminists, something something brigade, moan moan safe space snowflakes. Probably with an irony free mention of how women and feminists have a victim complex.

Anyways, last year was great craic. I've to work but then I'm off to a Repeal fundraiser at a tattoo place. I'd imagine it'll end up like last year, load of beours wearing black, bladdered and complimenting the sh1t out of each other

Talking to my husband today he was moaning that IWD exists and why is there not one for men yada yada.

I informed him there was such a day in November so he could plan what he wanted to do for it.

His answer was he wasn't bothered and he didn't want to do anything.

If men don't bother marking IMD then it's never going to become mainstream. It's a lost opportunity but that shouldn't mean we don't celebrate IWD.

Martina1991 · 08-03-2018 02:13PM

International Women's Day has been celebrated since 1909. It is a day when women are recognized for their achievements, whether national, ethnic, linguistic, cultural, economic or political.

Today, in 2018 many infants are killed just for being born female. Countless girls are denied the right to education, the right to vote, the right to have a say over their own bodies. In some societies menstruating women are sent out of their houses into huts until they stop bleeding and are not allowed into places of worship because they are considered unclean. In Ireland women still don’t have the final say over their bodies and maternity care.

There are plenty of hunzos and head wreckers on social media tooting their own horns and saying how great they are for being a woman, but they’ve lost sight of the cause too.

I look at IWD as a day to stop and look at how far we’ve come. But as I look in these posts I see comments made about sandwiches, cleaning products, porn and the colour pink.

I’m sorry if IWD is annoying to some, but clearly we still need it.

seachto7 · 08-03-2018 02:14PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Single fathers face a torrid time in courts, for one thing.

Also you said men should have no say in the abortion referendum/debate. Do you extend that point of view to women who are unable to have children?

I don't get your argument. It's a woman's issue.

the_pen_turner · 08-03-2018 02:17PM

seachto7 wrote: »

I don't get your argument. It's a woman's issue.

this is the problem . it is not a womens issue . and should not become one.

RocketRaccoon · 08-03-2018 02:17PM

Was i meant to get a card for all the women in my life or just the hysterical feminist ones?

08-03-2018 02:22PM

I remember years ago women's day was all tea and crocheting and flowers..
Now it all Ann summer's parties, abortions, pole dancing classes and mad eyebrows..

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-03-2018 02:24PM

Merry Christmas for Feminists Day.

Can't wait for 'Talk like a Pirate Day'.

It's be much more of the craic, ack sure tis be less patronising for all thou pirates, that do be out there, aaarrrgh.

08-03-2018 02:26PM

seachto7 wrote: »

I don't get your argument. It's a woman's issue.

Of course it is :rolleyes:

What a demented point of view.

Birdie Num Num · 08-03-2018 02:29PM

Is this officially the day I can take down my Christmas decorations?

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 08-03-2018 02:35PM

eviltwin wrote: »

Talking to my husband today he was moaning that IWD exists and why is there not one for men yada yada.

I informed him there was such a day in November so he could plan what he wanted to do for it.

His answer was he wasn't bothered and he didn't want to do anything.

If men don't bother marking IMD then it's never going to become mainstream. It's a lost opportunity but that shouldn't mean we don't celebrate IWD.

I mentioned it to my fellah in the run up, once he established that there wasn't something called "International Wednesday" happening the following Sunday he pretty much immediately lost interest :pac:

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