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yournerd · 05-03-2018 11:26PM

Does anyone have the lawschool.ie revision guides for this sitting? will trade my soul #desperatecall

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FreeFallin94 · 06-03-2018 09:47AM

Would anyone be able to tell me what the case of Quigley v City of Cork says about equality in constitutional please? Thanks in advance!

illy.m · 06-03-2018 11:09AM

Can anyone be so kind and tell me what questions/topics came up in Criminal October 2017 sitting? Would really appreciate that.

ninetythree · 06-03-2018 11:26AM

illy.m wrote: »

Can anyone be so kind and tell me what questions/topics came up in Criminal October 2017 sitting? Would really appreciate that.

Q1: PQ - Aggravated Burglary/S3 Assault, False Imprisonment/Threats to Kill/Defence of Duress

Q2: PQ - Murder (intention) or Manslaughter/ Defence of intoxication and provocation

Q3: PQ - Unlawful detention/ Right to Silence

Q4: Essay - Defence of diminished responsibility

Q5: PQ - Sexual Assault/ attempted rape/ consent

Q6: Essay - Strict Liability

Q7: Essay - Classification of criminal offences

Q8: Essay - Special Criminal Court

illy.m · 06-03-2018 11:36AM

ninetythree wrote: »

Q1: PQ - Aggravated Burglary/S3 Assault, False Imprisonment/Threats to Kill/Defence of Duress

Q2: PQ - Murder (intention) or Manslaughter/ Defence of intoxication and provocation

Q3: PQ - Unlawful detention/ Right to Silence

Q4: Essay - Defence of diminished responsibility

Q5: PQ - Sexual Assault/ attempted rape/ consent

Q6: Essay - Strict Liability

Q7: Essay - Classification of criminal offences

Q8: Essay - Special Criminal Court

You are a star! Thanks a million.

TemptationWaits · 06-03-2018 11:43AM

pk23 wrote: »

For constitutional I'm focusing on

equality
freedom of speech
family and education
personal rights
judicial review
separation of powers
property rights
abortion
the president/AG

Apart from those not really sure what other topics to cover, or how many more I really need to do - any advice on what people are focusing on/leaving out would be much appreciated

Fair procedures hasn't come up in a while and it's usually a popular one. EU law (ie Crotty and Pringle) is one not to miss as well, I think.

Interesting that you have abortion on the list. I don't know if that's necessarily going to come up - it's almost TOO easy to write about seeing as it's in the news all the time. I know there's that ongoing case in the Supreme Court relating to the Nigerian couple but the examiner won't expect a discussion of cases that aren't decided - and of course the paper was set a while ago.

sls16 · 06-03-2018 01:06PM

FreeFallin94 wrote: »

Would anyone be able to tell me what the case of Quigley v City of Cork says about equality in constitutional please? Thanks in advance!

In that case, the part time teachers were claiming inequality as they were not treated the same as full time teachers. Though they conducted similar work and hours, their rates of remuneration were different.
But the court said they weren't discriminated against as "human persons", and said they couldn't find that they were discriminated on the basis of gender, colour, creed, political leaning or any other human characteristic

annmc882 · 06-03-2018 01:10PM

CON - narrowing down to :

• Separation of powers- general essay question-
• Property rights
• Art 38.1 or Art 40.3 –
• Freedom of Expression with religion or general FOE and
• advertising question in light of new Social Media
• Abortion- in context of rights of unborn child.
• Amending the constitution
• Constitutional interpretation
• Article 16.2- Oireachtais- proportionate representation.
• Doctrine of Proportionality

demarche · 06-03-2018 02:41PM

*Constitutional*

The Examiner referred to a problem question in a past report that the issue was "duty to give reasons". What topic does this come under? TIA

Robbo · 06-03-2018 03:08PM

demarche wrote: »

*Constitutional*

The Examiner referred to a problem question in a past report that the issue was "duty to give reasons". What topic does this come under? TIA

Administrative Law.

That's not a sarcastic answer by the way, it's just that the current examiner has decided to increase the amount of topics on the paper that were traditionally taught as part of Administrative Law modules. Judicial review, expanded locus standi questions and the duty to give reasons...none of which would feature on a traditional Constitutional Law paper.

You're starting point here should be Mallak which runs through previous authorities and the Supreme Court leans heavily on there being a duty to give reasons.

The developing jurisprudence of our own courts provides compelling evidence that, at this point, it must be unusual for a decision maker to be permitted to refuse to give reasons. The reason is obvious. In the absence of any reasons, it is simply not possible for the applicant to make a judgment as to whether he has a ground for applying for a judicial review of the substance of the decision and, for the same reason, for the court to exercise its power. At the very least, the decision maker must be able to justify the refusal. No attempt has been made to do so in the present case and I believe it would be wrong to speculate about cases in which the courts might be persuaded to accept such justification.

demarche · 06-03-2018 03:24PM

Robbo wrote: »

Administrative Law.

That's not a sarcastic answer by the way, it's just that the current examiner has decided to increase the amount of topics on the paper that were traditionally taught as part of Administrative Law modules. Judicial review, expanded locus standi questions and the duty to give reasons...none of which would feature on a traditional Constitutional Law paper.

You're starting point here should be Mallak which runs through previous authorities and the Supreme Court leans heavily on there being a duty to give reasons.

Thanks heaps for that - you've really helped me out! The examiner did point to the Mallak case, and Meadows and Rawson so hopefully I can pull something together with those three!

TemptationWaits · 06-03-2018 03:44PM

demarche wrote: »

Thanks heaps for that - you've really helped me out! The examiner did point to the Mallak case, and Meadows and Rawson so hopefully I can pull something together with those three!

In my manual this is in the chapter on Fair Procedures (just another way of saying admin law).

illy.m · 06-03-2018 03:48PM

Mod : Sorry no references to course, tutors etc here. Post deleted[B][/B].

Apart from that, good luck to all. Happiest days of your lives and all that

Robbie25808 · 06-03-2018 04:12PM

Constitutional Law:

Is the right to earn a livliehood an unenumerated right? Just wondering in case an essay on unenumerated rights is asked.

I know Cafolla says that it is a property right but hand says that it is a personal right.

Frances94 · 06-03-2018 04:14PM

illy.m wrote:

Guys the Citycolleges night before notes are out if anybody was waiting for them.

Are they available online? I only see the October 2017 set.

illy.m · 06-03-2018 05:08PM

google night before notes. they do come up as oct 2017, but when go in, its actually march 18

annmc882 · 06-03-2018 05:10PM

illy.m wrote: »

google night before notes. they do come up as oct 2017, but when go in, its actually march 18

Are they any good for revision?

bonhamr · 06-03-2018 05:15PM

Does anyone have the October 2017 Contract Topics that came up?

annmc882 · 06-03-2018 05:19PM

bonhamr wrote: »

Does anyone have the October 2017 Contract Topics that came up?

O & A
Consideration
Formal & Ev Requirements
Terms
EC
CP
Misrep
remotness of damages
Discharge

illy.m · 06-03-2018 05:33PM

They would be good as a last thing to look over before the exam. They do cover everything but they are very much consolidated. I usually read them over and add my own bits and pieces i.e. facts of the case etc. or some other NB point thats not covered. And I would read that before going into the exam. I would not recommend them as the only revision source.

illy.m · 06-03-2018 05:34PM

annmc882 wrote: »

Are they any good for revision?

They would be good as a last thing to look over before the exam. They do cover everything but they are very much consolidated. I usually read them over and add my own bits and pieces i.e. facts of the case etc. or some other NB point thats not covered. And I would read that before going into the exam. I would not recommend them as the only revision source.

annmc882 · 06-03-2018 05:44PM

illy.m wrote: »

They would be good as a last thing to look over before the exam. They do cover everything but they are very much consolidated. I usually read them over and add my own bits and pieces i.e. facts of the case etc. or some other NB point thats not covered. And I would read that before going into the exam. I would not recommend them as the only revision source.

Yeah i think night before but then prob hit panic mode with them

b.anna · 06-03-2018 08:46PM

Hi just wondering if someone could help me out with 2 cases for EU. Vlassopooulou and laboratoires phramaceutques bergaderm. Just looking for brief summary and judgement. Really appreciate any help.

yournerd · 06-03-2018 09:21PM

Anyone else in panic/stress mode? had like 3 meltdowns today

((((((

annmc882 · 06-03-2018 09:36PM

yournerd wrote: »

Anyone else in panic/stress mode? had like 3 meltdowns today ((((((

I am still doing notes and 2 exams next week... that cant be good

I wont have it learnt in time ... panic has set in big time

Gunslinger92 · 06-03-2018 09:43PM

I'm always doing notes incredibly close to the exam and I've been fine so far...

annmc882 · 06-03-2018 09:48PM

Gunslinger92 wrote: »

I'm always doing notes incredibly close to the exam and I've been fine so far...

Thanks

gives me hope!!

Gunslinger92 · 06-03-2018 10:01PM

annmc882 wrote: »

Thanks

gives me hope!!

Loads of time yet just try keep the head! (But I empathise completely with ye, give me another few days ha)

FreeFallin94 · 06-03-2018 10:22PM

Can anyone offer any help for this question on the constitutional paper (March 15, Q 6). According to the grid it is a judicial review question but I'm struggling with how I'd answer it based on what I've done on that topic.

“No one denies that the [1937] Constitution was influenced to some extent by Catholic teaching and doctrine .... What is more remarkable, however, is the extent to which that document also reflected secular ... values of liberal democracy, respect for individual rights, and the separation of the Church and State and the extent to which it does not reflect Catholic teaching."

Do you agree with this statement? Give reasons for your answer, making reference (where appropriate) to specific provisions of the Constitution and/or decided cases of the Irish courts

yournerd · 06-03-2018 10:46PM

FreeFallin94 wrote: »

Can anyone offer any help for this question on the constitutional paper (March 15, Q 6). According to the grid it is a judicial review question but I'm struggling with how I'd answer it based on what I've done on that topic.

I would have thought this is interpretation? Its under that on my grid!

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