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Off The Ball Official Thread <Mod Note - Post #1, #533, #6651>

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,524 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Very good piece with Marcus O'Sullivan, Irish athlete from the 80's on show tonight.
    Ran sub 4 minute miles 101 times in career.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭anthonyjmaher


    Yeah, it was good. Interesting story. Joe is well able to do good interviews. When he keeps to the sport, he is probably my favourite sports broadcaster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,524 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Yeah, it was good. Interesting story. Joe is well able to do good interviews. When he keeps to the sport, he is probably my favourite sports broadcaster.

    In this case, I would have liked him to have brought up Salazar and doping links to Farah given the expert view on the line.

    I wonder was it removed from possible topics beforehand or did it just not come up. He did talk about O'Sullivans take on what happened in the 100M in the Seoul Olympics which O'Sullivan was at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭Historybluff


    Yes, the interview with O'Sullivan was good. It's great when you get an athlete who has the personality, intelligence and vocabulary to express himself clearly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,266 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Very good piece with Marcus O'Sullivan, Irish athlete from the 80's on show tonight.
    Ran sub 4 minute miles 101 times in career.

    I listened to it on podcast.
    Very insightful interview.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭closeline


    closeline wrote: »
    Who is the guy interviewing Billy Joe Padden..

    Why the **** is he constantly referring to a bloody spread when analysing a game?

    Anyone? Is it Nathan Murphy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭anthonyjmaher


    That interview with Karen Leach was difficult but compelling listening. It must be so difficult for the parents of children abused by people like Derry O'Rourke. They are trying to be good parents by helping their child to achieve their dreams, but unwittingly handing them over to an abuser. It must have been devastating for them to find out about what happened. It was a very good interview.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭closeline


    You know, I was just beginning to enjoy Joe Molloy's broadcasting again, until he spent an hour ..... yet again... going on about how Rory McIlroy went for a round of gold with Trump. Jesus Christ, he gives me a pain in my face. I think the most underhanded thing about the way they handle such topics is that they present their own opinion as the morally correct and right opinion, before then asking the guest for their opinion, by which point it is impossible for them to do anything but agree with the presenter.
    I think at this stage Jessica Kelly is nearly the only presenter on NT that doesn't try to ram her political views and morals down your throat.

    I agree with you.. The moral high ground that they portray is pretty annoying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,977 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    The listener should never be intimidated by pundits and presenters.

    Think for yourself is my advice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    "The Kerrys, the Corks, the Dublins of this world". There is only ONE Kerry. ONE Cork. ONE Dublin. Grrrr.... Everytime on GAA on OTB.

    Or, as yer man says: "Curry"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    The lads were giving out a few weeks ago about the Irish channels showing Liverpool and United CL games at every opportunity, so should be happy tonight...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭santino


    Listening back to one of the football pod's from last week. They had Paddy Agnew on talking about the Italian League, and very good he was. Is Paddy still with the Irish Times or is free-lancing? Just curious with the ongoing IT ban...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭dr.kenneth noisewater


    santino wrote: »
    Listening back to one of the football pod's from last week. They had Paddy Agnew on talking about the Italian League, and very good he was. Is Paddy still with the Irish Times or is free-lancing? Just curious with the ongoing IT ban...
    Seems to be freelance now, nothing on the IT site since March 2017 
    https://www.irishtimes.com/profile/paddy-agnew-7.1837383

    He was also good on the stand with Dunphy this week

    Edit: more here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    santino wrote: »
    Listening back to one of the football pod's from last week. They had Paddy Agnew on talking about the Italian League, and very good he was. Is Paddy still with the Irish Times or is free-lancing? Just curious with the ongoing IT ban...

    i think i read it in the phoenix recently, there was a bit of a falling out between him and the irish times. he was to take them to court in Italy, along the same lines that ryanair staff can take action in the country they are based, not where the company itself is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭santino


    Seems to be freelance now, nothing on the IT site since March 2017 
    https://www.irishtimes.com/profile/paddy-agnew-7.1837383

    He was also good on the stand with Dunphy this week

    Edit: more here

    i think i read it in the phoenix recently, there was a bit of a falling out between him and the irish times. he was to take them to court in Italy, along the same lines that ryanair staff can take action in the country they are based, not where the company itself is.

    Thanks for that, makes more sense now I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 937 ✭✭✭styron


    Sunday Times (17/9/17) - On the face of it, odious treatment of Agnew by IT management:
    The Irish Times is being sued by its Rome correspondent in an Italian labour court for tens of thousands of euros after his employment with the newspaper was terminated acrimoniously after 31 years.

    Paddy Agnew, who is still listed as the newspaper’s Rome correspondent on its website, has not written for the newspaper since last March. Recent stories published by The Irish Times concerning Italy were provided by Reuters or the Associated Press agencies.

    Agnew, author of the book Forza Italia: A Journey In Search of Italy and its Football, has written for The Irish Times since 1986. His departure has upset a number of his former colleagues. He recently wrote to other journalists in the newspaper to tell them how his employment was “summarily terminated” in a manner that caused him both “angst and sadness”.

    Last February 8 he met then editor Kevin O’Sullivan at his own request for what he thought was a normal meeting for a foreign correspondent back in Dublin. At the meeting, O’Sullivan said Agnew’s €50,000 salary would be cut to €20,000 because of the newspaper’s financial difficulties. Agnew said this was the first time a cut was raised with him.

    The following day he wrote to the editor pointing out the effect this would have on him given The Irish Times represented 90% of his income. A month later O’Sullivan phoned him to say the cut would be to €15,000. He said Deirdre Veldon, the Irish Times’s managing editor, then wrote to him to say the paper needed to end its arrangement with him from March 31. “Her letter offered no contract/salary/payment at all,” wrote Agnew. “Zero. Three weeks notice at the end of 31 years.”


    After Agnew wrote to Liam Kavanagh, managing director of The Irish Times, and some board members to complain about his treatment he was offered a new contract. This required up to six articles a week for €500, global exclusivity, a renunciation of all his employment rights and an ex gratia payment of €50,000.

    Agnew rejected this and a later 18% improved offer because “they did not represent a fair severance settlement in view of a pensionless future”. Both contracts “required roughly double the work for 50% of the salary”.

    He said he did not write for the paper after March in the absence of an agreement. This prompted the newspaper to say that because he had “turned down assignments” it was forced to “terminate” the relationship.

    Agnew said it was “staggering” to discover after 31 years reporting on earthquakes, floods, volcanic eruptions, Popes, three World Cups, five European Championships, three G7/8s, mafia cases, Berlusconi and his “bunga bunga”, and much else besides, that “one was never ‘employed’ ”.

    He said his Italian lawyer advised him that the newspaper had incurred “serious liabilities” to him given that “a verbal contract resulted in a modest salary” with no provision for pension or social welfare contributions.

    Last week neither Kavanagh nor Paul O’Neill, the new editor of The Irish Times, responded to requests for comment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Jayesdiem


    That's shameful. I always enjoyed listening to and reading Paddy's contributions. Hopefully he gets what he is entitled to here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭closeline


    Re Carragher story.. The moral high ground from the boys again. They'd want to be careful, if they fell off it, I'd be a desperate fall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,524 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    closeline wrote: »
    Re Carragher story.. The moral high ground from the boys again. They'd want to be careful, if they fell off it, I'd be a desperate fall.

    Give over. It was all over social media yesterday and unlike lots on that, none of them last night felt he should lose his job over it.
    They brought up Kevin Kilbane giving two fingers to Sunderland fans as part of the conversation. It was fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭Conservative


    closeline wrote: »
    Re Carragher story.. The moral high ground from the boys again. They'd want to be careful, if they fell off it, I'd be a desperate fall.


    Pretty much agree. Before seeing the video I expected a lot more aggravation from the driver but you'd think Carragher killed somebody based on the melodramatic response from Joe and the lads!!

    Stupidity on both sides but give it a rest!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭Conservative


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    Didn't follow anything else about it so maybe that skewed my opinion.

    I thought Joe was absolutely ridiculous!! A former professional footballer spat at some idiot taunting him from a car? Real shocker..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,266 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Pretty much agree. Before seeing the video I expected a lot more aggravation from the driver but you'd think Carragher killed somebody based on the melodramatic response from Joe and the lads!!

    Stupidity on both sides but give it a rest!

    Personally, I think it is a real low.
    Gives the likes of the Sun plenty of ammunition.

    I mean do people normally spit out car windows at people?

    Between Carragher launching gobs at a thick in car, Henry and his handball history, Gary Neville and his mysonginstic brother, not to mention Gary's laughable attempt at management, Team Sky in the Cycling...


    There has not been as much 'side news /soap opera' Sky stuff since Keyes and Gray.

    It's great craic!

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    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,266 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I heard a bit of the discussion about the 1972 nations.
    It was enjoyable (even though I am only a very casual rugby watcher at best.)

    It was Nathan interviewing Willie John McBride.

    McBride reminded me of a Rugby version of John Giles.
    He liked things done 'the right way' with no fuss

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,524 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Patww79 wrote:
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    Think it's on from 11:00 on Friday nights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,779 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Patww79 wrote: »
    Is Team 33 ever aired on Newstalk or is it a podcast only? Probably my favourite thing from the lot of the OtB stuff.

    That & GAA on OTB are the only bits I podcast.

    Can I ask again why OTB & Newstalk mention it so little?

    They can't do the sports news on Pat Kenny without mentioning brand OTB, if they have a live show it's mentioned 5,000 times across the day yet Team 33 never, ever gets a mention anywhere. Why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Ol' Donie wrote: »
    That & GAA on OTB are the only bits I podcast.

    Can I ask again why OTB & Newstalk mention it so little?

    They can't do the sports news on Pat Kenny without mentioning brand OTB, if they have a live show it's mentioned 5,000 times across the day yet Team 33 never, ever gets a mention anywhere. Why?

    i've a feeling there's different management there, not sure if they fall under the sports structure like under adrian or ger. could be completely wrong but they did win best sports show a couple of years ago at the PPI and there was hardly a mention of it on OTB


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭anthonyjmaher


    I heard a bit of the discussion about the 1972 nations.
    It was enjoyable (even though I am only a very casual rugby watcher at best.)
    Thought it was very strange that they should have been so adamant about playing a rugby game when people were dying on the streets of Derry.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Didn't follow anything else about it so maybe that skewed my opinion.

    I thought Joe was absolutely ridiculous!! A former professional footballer spat at some idiot taunting him from a car? Real shocker..

    In all fairness I know Carragher is as common as fcuk but it's still pretty shocking behaviour to see from a grown adult.


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