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Shoveling the driveway

  • 02-03-2018 01:38PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭


    I’m going a bit stir crazy with the weather and looking out the window a lot.

    There’s a big bunch of neighbours everyday shoveling the driveways.
    Then it snows on it then they do it again. Now they have banded together and are shoveling the road.

    They have a big giant pile of snow sitting up against a wall.

    Is there some legal reason for this or have they just all got bored?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭holystungun9


    Beats starting another thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,375 ✭✭✭paulbok


    Maybe they are just decent neighbours?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Ajsoprano wrote: »
    I’m going a bit stir crazy with the weather and looking out the window a lot.

    There’s a big bunch of neighbours everyday shoveling the driveways.
    Then it snows on it then they do it again. Now they have banded together and are shoveling the road.

    They have a big giant pile of snow sitting up against a wall.

    Is there some legal reason for this or have they just all got bored?

    Community spirit maybe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    paulbok wrote: »
    Maybe they are just decent neighbours?

    But what’s it all for? Snow is grand to walk on its the ice that’ll get you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Compacted snow turns to ice though.

    May seem futile when more flakes arrive on what you have cleared, but get rid of it at intervals and you'll be laughing once the thaw starts.

    I can see what they are at.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,687 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Live in a townhouse so cleared around the front. No driveway. Did the neighbour's house as well as her husband is snowed in at work somewhere.

    The snow piles up surprisingly high against the door and front of the house so didn't want it to melt there. Also gets rid of the compacted snow on the path outside so somebody doesn't go on their hole.

    To be fair, it's actually great to go out in the fresh air and do a physical task after working at home on a laptop for three days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭mvt


    From my many years of working abroad because I din't want to be a drain on society :D:I gained much experience in shoveling feckin snow.

    The more frequently you do it the easier it is as the snow doesn't form a layer of ice at the bottom.

    Also it's the right thing to do :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    A comment I saw from a Canadian. "Anyone who complains about me shoveling three inches of snow off my driveway while it is still snowing has never had to shovel 12 inches of snow off their driveway". The idea being that if you do it regularly it's easier overall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,799 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    mvt wrote: »
    From my many years of working abroad because I din't want to be a drain on society :D:I gained much experience in shoveling feckin snow.

    The more frequently you do it the easier it is as the snow doesn't form a layer of ice at the bottom.

    Also it's the right thing to do :rolleyes:

    The snow at the top is colder than the snow at the bottom. So if you leave it alone there will be no layer of ice at the bottom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    If you don't clear the way in front of your house here and someone slips then you are liable


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭diggerdigger


    Shovelled the first lot off before it got trod on. Salted using couple of handfuls budget dishwasher salt I got 2kg for a euro in discount store stops any light falls settling.
    Then just use a yard brush each morning before anyone packs it down by walking on it. takes 5 minutes and salt again.  
    way, way easier than trying to clear days of compacted ice than doesn't thaw for days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Community spirit at work. Maybe give them a hand, rather than watching from the window.

    I used my leaf blower here, to clear the paths between showers. It did a great job and all s clear and safe at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    jester77 wrote: »
    If you don't clear the way in front of your house here and someone slips then you are liable

    In Ireland, they probably would try and sue you, if they slipped as a result of your cleared snow.

    :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Ajsoprano wrote: »
    But what’s it all for? Snow is grand to walk on its the ice that’ll get you

    Once it's walked on it compacts quickly, becomes slippery, ices up and takes longer to clear after the thaw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭go4it


    in most continental europe countries it's a legal requirement that people and businesses clear up the pathways and walking sidewalks in front of their premises /houses
    And yes, it helps big time to do it more frequently, in shallow layers , instead of a 10 inch layer...
    Just pretend you're in gym and workout your body.

    Since Ireland IS different, and in couple of days the rain will do the job for you, could stay inside and look at the old people chancing their hips /limbs on a slippery surface in the way to daily milk/ bread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,799 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    go4it wrote: »
    in most continental europe countries it's a legal requirement that people and businesses clear up the pathways and walking sidewalks in front of their premises /houses
    And yes, it helps big time to do it more frequently, in shallow layers , instead of a 10 inch layer...
    Just pretend you're in gym and workout your body.

    Since Ireland IS different, and in couple of days the rain will do the job for you, could stay inside and look at the old people chancing their hips /limbs on a slippery surface in the way to daily milk/ bread

    Do you really know the law about this in all those countries?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    jester77 wrote: »
    If you don't clear the way in front of your house here and someone slips then you are liable
    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    In Ireland, they probably would try and sue you, if they slipped as a result of your cleared snow.

    :(

    Neither is true. They could try to sue but that ship sailed years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,192 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    Don't have a proper snow shovel, or a leaf blower. I do have a power washer though. That'd clear off the paths nice and quick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭mvt


    The snow at the top is colder than the snow at the bottom. So if you leave it alone there will be no layer of ice at the bottom.

    If you live in a housing estate like the OP its most probable that folk are trying to get past his house thereby compacking the snow.

    It's why they are called foot paths,

    pretty poor not to do it tbh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    I went out to do it just see what the fuss was. Took about half an hour with a spade.
    Snow has started belting down now again. Seems they are doing it so the elderly can get up and down which is fair enough. I’ll keep on top of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Neither is true. They could try to sue but that ship sailed years ago.

    https://www.test.de/Winterdienst-Wann-Mieter-und-Eigentuemer-Schnee-schippen-muessen-4780083-0/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭mvt


    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    certainty glad we're not neighbours,are you for real? Fools?

    what a poor post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Cardiologists recommend that any over over 55 who is not it A1 perfect health should take caution with the aul shoveling.
    The cold air, layered clothes, morning/early afternoon biorhythms, and strenuous chest/arm based activity, are the perfect ingredients for heart attacks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,548 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Your neighbors are obviously bored OP.

    It's a waste of time, the snow will be gone in a couple of hours once the thaw sets in and we get the forecasted rain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭mloc123


    cleared the 6 inches off my drive yesterday... figured it'd be easier to do it each day than try to cleared 3 days of compacted ice tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Neither is true. They could try to sue but that ship sailed years ago.

    Well I think Jester was referring to where he lives/is from.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    Well I think Jester was referring to where he lives/is from.

    Granted, but still not relevant to here.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    jester77 wrote: »

    I meant in the context of doing so, or not doing so, here in Ireland.


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