Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 MOD NOTE POST 1*

usualstripes · 26-02-2018 04:06PM

northern lad wrote: »

This year these players will turn the following ages: Walter 27, Cillian 26, Padraig 26, Joe Lyng 27, Ger Aylward 26, Conor O' Shea 25, Richie Reid 25, Rob Lennon 25, Kevin Kelly 25, .... All nine should make the championship 26.
Based on that this age bracket will give us more than any other age bracket in 2018

Not sure Robert Lennon and Conor o shea should make the panel but they probably will.
No disrespect but I think we have better backs to make the panel. Only my opinion. Good hurlers but not the level we need to compete

greenspurs · 26-02-2018 04:22PM

The surface in Nowlan Pk looked immaculate yesterday , fair play to the groundsman/men that look after it.
And then you have Walsh Pk, and Pairc Ui Chaoimh !!! P Ui C looked like Tramore beach yesterday ! terrible looking surface

Noddy33 · 26-02-2018 05:05PM

Like always great game between these old foes......

Brennan- Pucks out were not great and went short few times when it wasn't on really. Good to get him game time in the league all the same but certainly work in progress
Morrissey- Solid and generally tidy game all round. Proving to be decent squad member
Holden-Struggled second half but did some very good things first half. Will be back in the corner next week
Deegan-Best game so far this year with some excellent catches. Should look to improve on distribution
O'Shea-Never dominates unfortunately and delivery is often aimless
Buckley- Incredible athlete and hurler!
Browne-Good first outing and took point well. He collided few times with Buckley under few high balls but should be happy with league debut
Maher-Getting through a mountain a work and really hope can drive on to nail starting 15 position
Blanchfield-Confidence is gone and just struggling with all round game. Has the potential but wouldnt be near starting 15 if going on form
Mossy- Always has that tiring look at demeanour about him and just struggled to get into game yesterday. Just wonder if he not quite ready physically for two big games at this level 2 weeks in a row. Same thing happened where he was brilliant in Walsh Cup final against Wexford but then struggled following week against Cork in League. No doubt he will come good over the next few years
Tj- Great to see him back on form and catching high balls for fun again. His vision is exquisite
Lyng- First touch let him down at times. Not the most natural hurler but makes up for it with work rate.......but not sure how far good rate will get you at this level
Leahy-Went far better went was brought out the field. Has real style and guile and knows there the posts are
Wally-quite first half but took goal brilliantly and came into it second half
Scanlon-Excellent goal and not shy to get stuck in given his size.Bigger tests to come

brookville · 26-02-2018 06:46PM

First of all will the wexford match go ahead if this bad weather comes?Will davie take his foot of the gas sunday and try players,wexford and Clare have used strong teams throughout while other teams have experimented more than others.we'll probably end up in 4th position against Galway or limerick.i think the league has being good to us and we've used lots of players and were very competitive with lots of newcomers.im sure we'll see lots of more changes for the next match.

Grats · 26-02-2018 07:01PM

Thee main damage from Tipp came from Breen when he was switched to right corner forward. Tipp brought on Russell at full forward and he did cause Joey trouble. Holden held his own other than giving away a few frees which were harsh enough. Breen went in to score his two goals after the switch. Deegan thundered into the game in the last ten minutes or so but a lot of damage was already done on him.

minty81 · 26-02-2018 08:25PM

Not much chance of Davy taking foot off the pedal. He knows no other way than flat out.
Ridiculous from him to have a minibus ready in Mallow to take the fitzgibbon players back to wexford straight after the game. Give the players a day off ffs, whats the point of it all if you can't get a chance to unwind and enjoy it

Dionysis · 26-02-2018 08:42PM

minty81 wrote: »

Not much chance of Davy taking foot off the pedal. He knows no other way than flat out.
Ridiculous from him to have a minibus ready in Mallow to take the fitzgibbon players back to wexford straight after the game. Give the players a day off ffs, whats the point of it all if you can't get a chance to unwind and enjoy it

No chance of Davy taking the foot of the gas, he’s a student of Cody, and Cody would try to mentally damage the other team and put a block in their heads regarding his team and yo7 can be sure that is what Da y will do. Will want to beat KK again before summer time.

TommyHilfiger · 26-02-2018 09:04PM

We will need to lay down a marker to Wexford next Sunday, I say Cody cant wait for it and the players after the Walsh cup. I said it before this league match v Wexford is a big match nothing other than a win wont be accepted.

brookville · 26-02-2018 09:07PM

Kk should be up for this it'll probably be the last time we met before the summer.padraig and delaney could return to defence.leahy and maher both done well yesterday lester looks like being an impact player.mossy hopefully gets another start nothing went right but that will happen.ger aylward will probably start I wouldnt mind seeing someone else in the other corner but happy enough with scanlon he brings a bit of pace to the fowards took his goal brillantly.

v3ttel · 27-02-2018 12:28AM

BoroMan32 wrote: »

Good game to watch, attacks very much on top in the second half.

Holden was absolutely cleaned out in the second half & Blanchfield showed once again he just isn't anywhere near Intercounty standard - other than that some nice performances from the younger lads (Scanlon, Leahy, Maher etc) and plenty to work on.

Totally agree with this.

I was surprised Joey finished the game, he looked in trouble every time the ball went in. In fairness to him, he was doing well in the corner in some of the other games so far (second half vs Clare and last day vs Waterford).

Blanch is a million miles off the pace. I thought it was a stroke of luck that he was fouled for the penalty yesterday as he rarely gets a shot away. I can't remember what game he came on as an early first half sub recently, but he didn't actually puck a ball until the 59th minute. He has done nothing at inter-county level since the semi final replay against Waterford in 2015. He was pretty poor for the U21's last year too.

Lots of other encouraging performances though, and again, plenty to build on. We've had a lot of lads come in and shown enough of their talent that the future still looks bright. I've named the names in one of my previous posts. We will have a strong panel this year. The biggest question mark is at full back. I think Buckley has sorted out the center back spot and made it his own.

Grats · 27-02-2018 12:41AM

While I agree that Holden looked in trouble every time the high ball dropped in, he wasn't directly responsible for the two goals. As I said in a previous post, Breen had switched out to right corner forward and proceeded to score his two goals from that position. Meanwhile Tipp had sited the lanky Russell on Holden and while causing him problems there were bigger problems elsewhere. Ball after ball rained down on the fullback until the outfield players started to up their workrate, began to hassle their opponents and thus stopped that good ball dropping into our fullback.

If memory serves me right, Morrissey was moved onto Breen after the two goals which perhaps explains why Deegan played much of the last 10 minutes or so on the right. Deegan thundered into it at this stage after he was taken off Breen.

I haven't looked back on the game but that was my reading of it on the day.

Topcat32 · 27-02-2018 01:30AM

v3ttel wrote: »

Totally agree with this.

I was surprised Joey finished the game, he looked in trouble every time the ball went in. In fairness to him, he was doing well in the corner in some of the other games so far (second half vs Clare and last day vs Waterford).

Blanch is a million miles off the pace. I thought it was a stroke of luck that he was fouled for the penalty yesterday as he rarely gets a shot away. I can't remember what game he came on as an early first half sub recently, but he didn't actually puck a ball until the 59th minute. He has done nothing at inter-county level since the semi final replay against Waterford in 2015. He was pretty poor for the U21's last year too.

Lots of other encouraging performances though, and again, plenty to build on. We've had a lot of lads come in and shown enough of their talent that the future still looks bright. I've named the names in one of my previous posts. We will have a strong panel this year. The biggest question mark is at full back. I think Buckley has sorted out the center back spot and made it his own.

He scored a point so I guess that was an example of the rare occasion when he can get a shot away, again he scored heavily against Dublin and Wexford in the league last year so what you are saying is factually incorrect and he was one of the only players to do ok against the only really good team which the under 21s played against last year, just another example of people taking legimitate concerns over the form of a player and then underming their argument by complete over exaggeration.

robwen · 27-02-2018 01:38AM

Anyone behind the goal for TJ's penalty was it wide?

Village87 · 27-02-2018 09:49AM

robwen wrote: »

Anyone behind the goal for TJ's penalty was it wide?

Was a dubious penalty to say the least. Tipp back just held his ground to protect the keeper. Also did Wally Walsh push Hamill in the back for the goal ? Kilkenny got a few crucial calls during the match.

As for the Full back line i thought Morrissey was the best of them, If Tipp had there usually full forward line it could have been an even tougher day

citykat · 27-02-2018 10:02AM

Kilkenny should have been awarded two additional penalties. Mooney dived feet first into Maher and Keoghan in the first half. Not only is it not a legitimate tackle, it's a dangerous potential leg breaker.

bruschi · 27-02-2018 02:50PM

"Kilkenny, the next day, I don’t really mind,” says Fitzgerald, his main point being Wexford are already assured of their place in the quarter-finals, while Brian Cody’s team need to win be sure of theirs (although they look safe from the relegation play-off).

“For us, we’ll take it as it comes, but I don’t really care, once we’re there in the quarter-finals. We probably won’t be full throttle this Sunday, but I keep saying this is massive for our progression, staying in Division 1A.”

Wexford dont need to win the game and have had the majority of the main team playing through. Lee Chin had a slight injury and was taken off at half time, so I'd expect a fairly different team the next day. Maybe moreso on the wings than the spine of the team, but its obviously not a game being targeted to win.

Rasputin11 · 27-02-2018 03:02PM

citykat wrote: »

Kilkenny should have been awarded two additional penalties. Mooney dived feet first into Maher and Keoghan in the first half. Not only is it not a legitimate tackle, it's a dangerous potential leg breaker.

Eoin Murphy and Anthony Nash are pretty good at that too. I think DJ spoke about it previously and how dangerous it is.

TommyHilfiger · 27-02-2018 06:22PM

Village87 wrote: »

Was a dubious penalty to say the least. Tipp back just held his ground to protect the keeper. Also did Wally Walsh push Hamill in the back for the goal ? Kilkenny got a few crucial calls during the match.

As for the Full back line i thought Morrissey was the best of them, If Tipp had there usually full forward line it could have been an even tougher day

Have you a problem with your sight.

piuswal · 27-02-2018 06:53PM

TommyHilfiger wrote: »

Have you a problem with your sight.

It would be interesting to see where both of you were in relation to whatever incident ye are disagreeing about; different viewpoints, different interpretations etc.

babyjesus14 · 27-02-2018 07:22PM

Village87 wrote: »

Was a dubious penalty to say the least. Tipp back just held his ground to protect the keeper. Also did Wally Walsh push Hamill in the back for the goal ? Kilkenny got a few crucial calls during the match.

As for the Full back line i thought Morrissey was the best of them, If Tipp had there usually full forward line it could have been an even tougher day

"Held his ground to protect his keeper" Protect him from what? He was wasn't even looking at the ball. There's a picture of the incident in yesterdays' Indo seek it out and come back to me and tell me it was a "dubious penalty"!

TommyHilfiger · 27-02-2018 07:50PM

babyjesus14 wrote: »

"Held his ground to protect his keeper" Protect him from what? He was wasn't even looking at the ball. There's a picture of the incident in yesterdays' Indo seek it out and come back to me and tell me it was a "dubious penalty"!

May be he wonts hurling to go back to the hells kitchen days.

brookville · 27-02-2018 08:11PM

babyjesus14 wrote: »

"Held his ground to protect his keeper" Protect him from what? He was wasn't even looking at the ball. There's a picture of the incident in yesterdays' Indo seek it out and come back to me and tell me it was a "dubious penalty"!

I know some times pictures don't tell the full story but the tipp defender had his two arms wrapped around blanch he wasn't shielding him like defenders do I thought it was blatant enough.

TommyHilfiger · 27-02-2018 10:06PM

piuswal wrote: »

It would be interesting to see where both of you were in relation to whatever incident ye are disagreeing about; different viewpoints, different interpretations etc.

Was Walter Walsh not in front of the full back tipped the ball forward then scored the goal when he went past Hamill.

brookville · 27-02-2018 11:54PM

It looks like fogarty will also be out for the wexford match.it was good to see richie hogan sunday he had a hurl and ball pucking around before the match.eoin murphy will probably be out it'd be good to see brennan getting another run.we should be safe and we should be happy enough with the league given all the changes match to match.
Heard from a bridge lad that cleeres operation went well and they hope to have him back for the first round of the club where hopefully kevin kelly will be back for ballyragget.I know cleere is young but he has being hurling flat out since kierans with the club and underage and senior hopefully fogarty,richie and cleere will be fresh for the summer.

Realt Dearg Sec · 28-02-2018 12:19AM

I'd heard that Hogan had a setback with his recovery.

catseye2 · 28-02-2018 12:44AM

Is my maths right

Avoid losing to Wexford by more than 4 in case cork beat tipp by exactly 10. And assume Waterford don't beat Clare by 19

Achieve that and we are in the quarter finals . Such an important win last sunday

kilkennyboy · 28-02-2018 02:37AM

Wexford running out the panel .that's the sounds coming out of the wex camp .In the quarters probably playing a week team.paddy power must be in the no.kilkenny 2/5 fav.

piuswal · 28-02-2018 02:58AM

catseye2 wrote: »

Is my maths right

Avoid losing to Wexford by more than 4 in case cork beat tipp by exactly 10. And assume Waterford don't beat Clare by 19

Achieve that and we are in the quarter finals . Such an important win last sunday

Furthermore;

If Clare lose and KK beat Wex by 7 more than Tipp win by then KK top.

Clare lose and Tipp draw/lose, KK win, they go top.

Clare must lose.

I think that covers winning combinations.

Justice for the individual · 28-02-2018 01:45PM

TommyHilfiger wrote: »

Was Walter Walsh not in front of the full back tipped the ball forward then scored the goal when he went past Hamill.

Exactly - shown on television and I was directly across when Walter tipped the ball past Hamill, picked it up on the hurley, took a few steps to be nearer goal and gave the goalie no chance.

The Kilkenny forwards in general are not doing this, they need to take the ball forward to nearer the goal, thus increasing goal-scoring opportunities.

If Blanchfield can get a little fitter, knock off a stone, bring more quality to his pickup of the ball, he looks like the kind of player who can add this dimension to the Kilkenny forwards, and also create more opportunities for the smaller lively forwards, Kilkenny have at the moment. Brian Cody, in my humble opinion, is possibly seeing this quality in Blanchfield, and that is why he is persevering with him. Some of our previous quality forwards were slow to develop also, and it took a few years to bring them up to what Brian was looking for.

usualstripes · 28-02-2018 10:08PM

Hopefully the park will have thawed out by Sunday morning. With Conor Delaney, padraig Walsh, John Donnelly and possibly ger aylward on the panel we should have our strongest squad of the league thus far.
Obviously we will have to wait till later in the year to have Paul Murphy, Colin fennelly, Richie Hogan, Jason Cleere and Kevin Kelly back on the panel but for now it's good to see others getting a run.

I'm assuming Conor fogarty and eoin Murphy will be out for another week.

The team I would like to see out for Sunday would be the following.

Darren Brennan
Enda Morrissey
Padraig Walsh
Paddy Deegan
Conor Delaney
Cillian Buckley
Conor Browne
Richie Leahy
James Maher
Mossy keoghan
Tj Reid
Pat Lyng
John Donnelly
Walter Walsh
Luke Scanlon

Ryan Bergin
Joey Holden
Conor o shea
Joe lyng
Lester Ryan
Ollie Walsh
Liam blanchfield
Ger aylward
Alan Murphy
Bill Sheehan
Conor Martin

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