Ireland vs Wales 24th Feb 2:15

almostover · 24-02-2018 04:21PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

Kearney got caught out by North once or twice at the end but other than that I thought he was very good.

I'm no Kearney apologist either.

Sorry but Kearney is a passenger at this level now. Once a world class number 15 he is truly over the hill. Was untouchable when we won the slam in 09 and in the subsequent Lions tour. But his race is ran at international level and he needs to be replaced. He was beaten in the air multiple times today also and the drop gaol attempt was a 1 in 50 shot and a waste of possession in the Wales half.

edgecutter · 24-02-2018 04:23PM

stephen_n wrote: »

Jesus the level of negativity on here, you’d honestly think some would prefer us to lose. Mixed the rough with the smooth in terms of accuracy today. Hopefully we are building towards an 80 minute performamce in Twickenham. At times today we were brilliant, as we were against Italy. If we can build on those last 2 performances, we should be in with a good shout of the slam.

No one is upset, it was a great game but there are issues that need to be addressed. How we weren't out of sight and how poor our defence was need to be discussed.

almostover · 24-02-2018 04:24PM

almostover wrote: »

Sorry but Kearney is a passenger at this level now. Once a world class number 15 he is truly over the hill. Was untouchable when we won the slam in 09 and in the subsequent Lions tour. But his race is ran at international level and he needs to be replaced. He was beaten in the air multiple times today also and the drop gaol attempt was a 1 in 50 shot and a waste of possession in the Wales half.

Just to follow up that he has been a great Rugby servant for Ireland and one of our best ever full backs. But his time has come to move on

Jack Kanoff · 24-02-2018 04:25PM

edgecutter wrote: »

He looks very slow and lost high balls that he should be favourite to win. I still think he can have a role, but it's time to phase him out of the 15

And his natural successor is...... ?

DarkyHughes43 · 24-02-2018 04:25PM

IIGeminiII wrote: »

Stockdale taking far too much of a risk there at the end. Could have opened up the defensive line for the Welsh or knocked on the ball. Sure, he scored a try, but these games are won on fine margins and I think he showed his naivete at this level. England will be licking their lips. Good player but maybe it's too early for him at this level?

Ffs he scored the winning try - he got it right.

Criticize someone who almost cost us the game with an error - McFadden

corny · 24-02-2018 04:25PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

Kearney got caught out by North once or twice at the end but other than that I thought he was very good.

I'm no Kearney apologist either.

I can't think of one positive impact on the game. He was beaten in the air. Made little impact with ball in hand. Was weak in the tackle, completely missed more than one. Wasted good counter attack ball for a hail mary drop goal.

Genuine question....What did i miss that you saw?

sydthebeat · 24-02-2018 04:27PM

Why do we defend so narrow and easily give up 20 meters against a team that are comfortable to spread it.
Is Kearney too slow joining the line?
We played a 13 man line defense, but still couldn't seem to cover over for their wingers.

bilston · 24-02-2018 04:28PM

IIGeminiII wrote: »

Stockdale taking far too much of a risk there at the end. Could have opened up the defensive line for the Welsh or knocked on the ball. Sure, he scored a try, but these games are won on fine margins and I think he showed his naivete at this level. England will be licking their lips. Good player but maybe it's too early for him at this level?

Rubbish. He showed his naivety by successfully reading the Welsh attack and intercepting to score under the posts in what was his 8th try in his 7th game? And you're saying that shows he isn't ready for this level? Urrrrggghhhhh

blackcard · 24-02-2018 04:28PM

A lot of positives from today. With Ryan, Porter, Farrell, Leavy we are getting depth in positions that we couldn't have seen a couple of months ago.

stephen_n · 24-02-2018 04:28PM

Jack Kanoff wrote: »

Sexton had a poor game today....we should be grateful that the Scottish game is next and he can get over his yips before the England game.

How exactly did Sexton have a bad game, apart from the decision not to kick that penalty, how did he have a bad game? Clue missing kicks from the tee doesn’t count.

Former Former · 24-02-2018 04:28PM

corny wrote: »

I can't think of one positive impact on the game. He was beaten in the air. Made little impact with ball in hand. Was weak in the tackle, completely missed more than one. Wasted good counter attack ball for a hail mary drop goal.

Genuine question....What did i miss that you saw?

His offload out of a tackle that led directly to a try. It's the sort of play that people have been screaming for from this team.

And it instantly vanished from people's memory.

Funny that.

Later in the game, he tidied up dirty ball going backwards, beat the first man and again offloaded out of the tackle. McFadden knocked on but that's not Kearney's fault.

awec · 24-02-2018 04:29PM

Stockdale is like... amazing.

keith_sixteen · 24-02-2018 04:30PM

Esto Fidelis wrote: »

That was a roller coaster.

And still a lot to work on, Sexton surly not 100% fit.

Great by the young guys

kingofthekong · 24-02-2018 04:31PM

Ireland biting in in defence is terrible, consistently making gaping defensive errors, so the reason Larmour was shipped out was errors defensively .....but you leave Kearney on and bring McFadden we're both badly found out out wide, I'd bring larmour back for Scotland

almostover · 24-02-2018 04:32PM

Jack Kanoff wrote: »

And his natural successor is...... ?

Simon Zebo but we can't pick him. Maybe Andrew Conway? Joey Carbery?

one world order · 24-02-2018 04:32PM

Both Sexton and Kearney were poor. Wouldn't have Carbery in the team as he's a massive liability.

Farrell, Porter, O Mahony, Ryan, Stander, Healy, Leavy and Stockdale had a good game. Good to see them scoring tries, but easily opened up out wide is an issue.

Subpopulus · 24-02-2018 04:33PM

Just as well we had three quarters of the possession as every time Wales had the ball they looked like scoring.

This weak defense out wide has been a problem for a number of years now - I thought it would have been snuffed out after the debacle against Argentina, but here we are over two years later and it's just as much of a problem as it ever was.

Burkie1203 · 24-02-2018 04:34PM

Jack Kanoff wrote: »

And his natural successor is...... ?

Conway

edgecutter · 24-02-2018 04:34PM

one world order wrote: »

Both Sexton and Kearney were poor. Wouldn't have Carbery in the team as he's a massive liability.

Farrell, Porter, O Mahony, Ryan, Stander, Healy, Leavy and Stockdale had a good game. Good to see them scoring tries, but easily opened up out wide is an issue.

Bar his kicking, sexton was fine.

almostover · 24-02-2018 04:34PM

almostover wrote: »

Simon Zebo but we can't pick him. Maybe Andrew Conway? Joey Carbery?

Larmour also is showing promise. Time to back the young guys. (Realise Conway isn't very young)

Jack Kanoff · 24-02-2018 04:35PM

stephen_n wrote: »

How exactly did Sexton have a bad game, apart from the decision not to kick that penalty, how did he have a bad game? Clue missing kicks from the tee doesn’t count.

Running a penalty down a blind alley is a clue.
And missing easy kicks is a clue... enough people beat Keats about it !
He wasn't at the races today...and no amount of foot stamping will change that ... just in case you're in neednof a reality check.

IIGeminiII · 24-02-2018 04:36PM

People being harsh on johnny. He missed a few kicks. It happens. But he was a talisman for us in this game. Lots of hard running, neat passes, and a sensational pass for the try. Connected all the dots. He's super confident and fearless.

Pudsy33 · 24-02-2018 04:38PM

I'm as much of a Larmour fan as any but I don't think he should see any game time this side of the summer tour. Far far too raw. Kearney was solid enough today, Conway might put him under pressure were he fit but in his absence I don't think there's any other call to be made.

Jack Kanoff · 24-02-2018 04:39PM

almostover wrote: »

Simon Zebo but we can't pick him. Maybe Andrew Conway? Joey Carbery?

Actually..we can....but that's a debate for a different day.
If the likes of Cummiskey and his ilk were actually interested in the integrity of the fourth estate they'd be all over this ..but it doesn't suit their individual agenda's

Flincher · 24-02-2018 04:40PM

Really frustrating that we've to endure an attacking non-entity like McFadden (ahead of vastly better attacking but apparently less defensively astute players) because he's supposedly reliable and error free and Joe trusts him. Then his contribution was a knock on and a diabolical read in defence.

Synode · 24-02-2018 04:40PM

Great win. Jeez my heart was in my mouth when they got that late try. Was expecting them to set up for a DG but god bless Stockdale

Subpopulus · 24-02-2018 04:40PM

IIGeminiII wrote: »

Stockdale taking far too much of a risk there at the end. Could have opened up the defensive line for the Welsh or knocked on the ball. Sure, he scored a try, but these games are won on fine margins and I think he showed his naivete at this level. England will be licking their lips. Good player but maybe it's too early for him at this level?

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prawnsambo · 24-02-2018 04:41PM

one world order wrote: »

Both Sexton and Kearney were poor. Wouldn't have Carbery in the team as he's a massive liability.

Farrell, Porter, O Mahony, Ryan, Stander, Healy, Leavy and Stockdale had a good game. Good to see them scoring tries, but easily opened up out wide is an issue.

And there you have it folks. Ian Keatley is our only out half remaining.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 24-02-2018 04:41PM

Jack Kanoff wrote: »

Actually..we can....but that's a debate for a different day.
If the likes of Cummiskey and his ilk were actually interested in the integrity of the fourth estate they'd be all over this ..but it doesn't suit their individual agenda's

It would be stupid to pick Zebo now. He not in the camp and not up on calls and plans and moves.

24-02-2018 04:42PM

Former Former wrote: »

His offload out of a tackle that led directly to a try. It's the sort of play that people have been screaming for from this team.

And it instantly vanished from people's memory.

Funny that.

Later in the game, he tidied up dirty ball going backwards, beat the first man and again offloaded out of the tackle. McFadden knocked on but that's not Kearney's fault.

Not being in position to take the ball cleanly, running straight into contact and then throwing the ball away would have the good posters of boards.ie excoriating not-Kearney. Just wouldn't have the experience, serious back field issues, etc etc.

Ireland vs Wales 24th Feb 2:15

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