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Things you don't understand

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    The additionally disturbing thing is that I left there thinking about whether this could happen again and I see no reason why greater technology combined with group think and dehumanisation of other humans couldn't lead to a repeat.
    There are many recent examples, maybe not death camps, but as good as - you've got the genocide in Rwanda and Bosnia in the 90's, the ongoing genocides in Myanmar as a contemporary examples.

    We even have examples from "civilised" countries, that are on a much smaller scale but still have dehumanisation and tribalism at their roots - such as the rendition of innocent people and abuse of prisoners in Guantanamo Bay.

    It will always be a factor in humanity so long as religions and nations exist. It's a biological imperative that we separate ourselves into community groups and identify ourselves as a "member" of that group. A person may identify themselves as a langer and have a friendly begrudging of jackeens. But that's all it is; friendly begrudgery.

    It requires organisational structures like governments and religions to turn that social segregation into murderous hatred.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    The holocaust is shocking in it's scale and barbarity, but the only thing that really separates it from other genocides is it's assembly line style industrial nature.
    +1. I think it shocks us the most because it was so clinical and cold blooded, so business like. There was no excuse to be found in heat of the moment anger. It was a little too human in its terrible ingenuity.

    The Japanese could be equally as deadly in intent as far as mass killings in occupied China went. QV the Nanking Massacre alone where a few hundred thousand men women and children were raped and murdered over a period of little more than a month. It was a slaughter house, but it wasn't industrially organised with middle managers stamping files in offices somewhere.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    people on dating sites who have no job, no education, are 30 +, yet say they are ambitious?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,592 ✭✭✭valoren


    When I wave my hand very fast in front of me I can see my hand twice at both ends of it's waving 'arc'. Trying to find out what that phenomenon is called....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭AustinLostin


    I don't understand why death of Catherine Nevin is being so heavily reported on? I get she's infamous but it was literally headline news. Wouldn't mind a little article at the back of the paper but don't see why death of a murderer due to terminal illness is such headline news.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭Chancer3001


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    people on dating sites who have no job, no education, are 30 +, yet say they are ambitious?

    They have ambitions to get a job and or education?

    Or have ambitions to travel the world or climb all the mountains or become the best at their sport?

    Ambition isn't limited to job or book learning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    valoren wrote: »
    When I wave my hand very fast in front of me I can see my hand twice at both ends of it's waving 'arc'. Trying to find out what that phenomenon is called....

    Mushrooms:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    I don't understand Chinese writing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Wibbs wrote: »
    +1. I think it shocks us the most because it was so clinical and cold blooded, so business like. There was no excuse to be found in heat of the moment anger. It was a little too human in its terrible ingenuity.

    .

    This is the part that really makes me shudder. There had to be committees and meetings, people took notes and circulated minutes, brainstormed ideas and all the other bolloxology that goes with any other business meeting. Probably had a nice cup of tea and a biscuit while discussing the pro's and cons of Zyklon B over Zyklon A or C.

    Mental!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    They have ambitions to get a job and or education?

    Or have ambitions to travel the world or climb all the mountains or become the best at their sport?

    Ambition isn't limited to job or book learning



    maybe but I think most of these peoples ambitions are little more than heading out drinking with their girlos :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭Steve F


    Cina wrote: »
    Snapchat.

    I just don't get it.

    Have you checked your connection
    Turn it off and on again ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    valoren wrote: »
    When I wave my hand very fast in front of me I can see my hand twice at both ends of it's waving 'arc'. Trying to find out what that phenomenon is called....

    its called "persistence of vision" a phenomenon which made 'movies' possible. I think its fascinating the amount of science that was understood over a hundred years ago, and then how our knowledge (that's the Royal 'our' :D - a dig at my own humble capability ) has developed since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭Steve F


    Things I don't understand??
    Where to begin?
    My whole life has consisted of me pretending to know what I'm doing whilst in reality being a backwards version of Fr Dougal from Father Ted
    I am an utter spoofer!! ��


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭heldel00


    Steve F wrote: »
    Things I don't understand??
    Where to begin?
    My whole life has consisted of me pretending to know what I'm doing whilst in reality being a backwards version of Fr Dougal from Father Ted
    I am an utter spoofer!! ��
    At least you're honest!


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,027 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    valoren wrote: »
    When I wave my hand very fast in front of me I can see my hand twice at both ends of it's waving 'arc'. Trying to find out what that phenomenon is called....

    Optical flow?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,644 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    I'm a little bit of a cleaning freak and I like have my House tidy etc.

    But people who live in filthy places. I dont understand who could eat in place that got awful Smell or dirty.

    Some people have very little pride. I don't expect people be spotless but just some bit of effort.

    If my mother tongue is shaking the foundations of your state, it probably means you built your state on my land.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 anon322


    Kids being scared of Bully’s , why ? Hit the waster with something heavy square in the face and they won’t bother you again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,142 ✭✭✭akelly02


    why do all junkies look the exact same? carbon copies of each other


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 anon322


    akelly02 wrote: »
    why do all junkies look the exact same? carbon copies of each other
    Glitch in the matrix


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    anon322 wrote: »
    Kids being scared of Bully’s , why ? Hit the waster with something heavy square in the face and they won’t bother you again




    Also kids being bullied on social media, get off it maybe? its like would you keep putting your hand on an electric fence after the first shock?:confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 364 ✭✭georgina toadbum


    Why people lie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 anon322


    Why people lie.
    A deep seeded belief that the truth will hurt either themselves or others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Why people lie.

    Everybody lies, yourself included!

    Not every lie is malicious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,647 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    A friend's insistence that it's "kinder" (:confused:) to ghost women after a date than just send them a "Thanks but no thanks" text.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,384 ✭✭✭Duffy the Vampire Slayer


    Why the Israel-Palestine conflict attracts so much attention and bitter debate in countries like Ireland, when other, much worse conflicts are often ignored.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Pyr0


    Why the Israel-Palestine conflict attracts so much attention and bitter debate in countries like Ireland, when other, much worse conflicts are often ignored.

    According to Wikipedia, there are currently 18 serious armed conflicts on going around the world. Feel free to take your pick and get a debate going!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    Why the Israel-Palestine conflict attracts so much attention and bitter debate in countries like Ireland, when other, much worse conflicts are often ignored.

    I know. If you even just mention an Israeli person in the presence of some people I know, you’ll be subjected to a rant. For these people, it seems okay to hate every Israeli person.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Bob_Marley


    Everybody lies

    that's a lie, though granted most people do seem to lie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Bob_Marley


    What I don't understand is why there are no reasonably objective unbiased news sources available anymore.

    Just do some properly researched journalism, present all the facts and let people make their own minds up, instead of selectively presenting stories and then telling people what they should think.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭porte


    thelad95 wrote: »
    As I said, this is a cliche assumption about child psychology. I went too a primary school where we could wear our own clothes and this was never the case. Anecdotal evidence obviously isn't blanket proof but as I mentioned earlier in Finland, no schools have uniforms and empirically, bullying over clothes largely doesn't happen.

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2008/aug/11/bullying.schools1

    cliche assumption about child psychology. Really.


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