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Dublin Coach Experience Discussion Thread

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    devnull wrote: »
    Don't know - it could have been a coach since they also stop at UL on the 300.

    This was Kildare village on October 31st, it speaks volumes of their organisation skills.

    4 coaches there at the same time.

    Probably one of them so that went up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    Just talking to a reliable source who is well in the know.

    The fire in Limerick was a Mercedes Tourismo.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Just talking to a reliable source who is well in the know.

    The fire in Limerick was a Mercedes Tourismo.

    Almost certainly a 2014 one then I'd say - another pretty young vehicle!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    devnull wrote: »
    Almost certainly a 2014 one then I'd say - another pretty young vehicle!

    Disturbing when you consider it.

    If the wiring loom is in anyway gone in both coaches then it's game over.

    The first question they were probably asking the driver were the daily checks done including coolant/water.

    Outside of DC, what is the rate of fires for Tourismo's of that age bracket in Ireland?

    I haven't heard of any, that's not to say it hasn't happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭aaakev


    Dublin coach own all their vehicles, they are not leased.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    aaakev wrote: »
    Dublin coach own all their vehicles, they are not leased.

    Including the 171's and 181's?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    aaakev wrote: »
    Dublin coach own all their vehicles, they are not leased.

    I would be very surprised if they own all of their vehicles.

    They would have had to have spent approx €12m in the last 3-4 years on the 30 Tourismos alone and I doubt they have that kind of money to pay upfront - their accounts certainly don't suggest they are spending that much on new vehicles.

    I could quite believe most of the second hand stuff is owned though and perhaps all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭aaakev


    aaakev wrote: »
    Dublin coach own all their vehicles, they are not leased.

    Including the 171's and 181's?
    Yup and no maintenance contracts with mercedes either. They do most of their maintenance in house


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    aaakev wrote: »
    They do most of their maintenance in house

    Yeah I know that bit.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    aaakev wrote: »
    Yup and no maintenance contracts with mercedes either. They do most of their maintenance in house

    Where do they get the money from to buy them, is their owner really that loaded?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    devnull wrote: »
    Where do they get the money from to buy them, is their owner really that loaded?

    I’d say a quick report from solocheck for about €3/4 will tell us the company is in the height of debt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭aaakev


    devnull wrote: »
    aaakev wrote: »
    Yup and no maintenance contracts with mercedes either. They do most of their maintenance in house

    Where do they get the money from to buy them, is their owner really that loaded?
    Cant help you out on that one im afraid!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    aaakev wrote: »
    Cant help you out on that one im afraid!

    Are you an employee or connected to the company in another way?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭aaakev


    aaakev wrote: »
    Cant help you out on that one im afraid!

    Are you an employee or connected to the company in another way?
    No not connected to them in any way


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    I’d say a quick report from solocheck for about €3/4 will tell us the company is in the height of debt.

    There's a few free sites to get that kind of info

    Citi Bus has 3.2m of assets and Last Bus 5.5m of assets as of September 2016, so it's quite possible that they do own the Tourismos up until 2016 - there is no more recent accounts so impossible to tell about the 2017 and 2018 ones.

    However the accounts for Last Bus show a bank overdraft and long term loan of approx €3m and total liabilities of approx €5m, a debt to Capital ratio of 90% and a working capital of minus 2m.

    Bear in mind these are almost 18 months out of date now though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭eejoynt


    The coach on fire at UL last week was dublin coach

    there have been previous incidents with this operator of coach fires and has there not been one of a large part of the coach falling on the road

    these issues are not speculation.

    if such incidents happened to a plane a train or a ferry there would be an investigation by a state body.

    will there be a similar investigation of coach related incidents by RSA?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,122 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    J.pilkington banned for two weeks for backseat moderating. <snip>

    — moderator


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    colm_mcm wrote: »

    It is, Thank you kind Sir :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭The_Wanderer


    Can anybody give us a rundown on vehicle fires on the fleet?

    Two buses dumped in Corcoran's Portlaoise suffering from fires. When did these take place?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭s14driftking


    Another on fire today and another break down I see on Facebook earlier.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    Another on fire today and another break down I see on Facebook earlier.

    Where abouts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭aaakev


    Fire in naas, just outside the town on the Newbridge road at jigginstown castle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭aaakev


    Just passed another breakdown on the m50 North bound before exit 5


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    Any idea what the vehicles were?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,051 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    Just popped up on facyt now. M50 I believe ;)

    Edit...Pic didn't post. Another breakdown in the m50 a short while ago.


  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 6,086 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    Spotted a 181 reg in Limerick City this afternoon, en route to Ennis. My first time seeing something this fresh on the 300 route!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭embraer170


    I was on a Dublin Airport to Portloise service earlier this evening (one of the very old double deckers). We had some issue before the M50 toll, the coach crawled for a while and eventually stopped under a bridge (it was raining). Since the hard shoulder was blocked by cones, we stopped on the M50 left lane. It was worrying to see passing cars and trucks not see there was a stopped coach and move to the middle lane at the very last second. Fortunately whatever issue we had got fixed in 3-4 minutes and we continued to the Red Cow. Had it lasted any longer, I would have been off the coach.

    I had 40 minutes to watch a few idiotic incidents at the Red Cow. One driver hit a mirror on the lamp post opening the door (a double decker). A few minutes later he started moving while some passengers were still unloading luggage from the rear compartment (the driver was focussed on the mirror and moved off with the door open to avoid hitting it). Really lucky no one got injured.

    I was surprised to see a 181 reg show up on the Killarney service I am on now. Fine coach but no WiFi unfortunately. Almost empty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭tabbey


    embraer170 wrote: »
    I had 40 minutes to watch a few idiotic incidents at the Red Cow. One driver hit a mirror on the lamp post opening the door (a double decker). A few minutes later he started moving while some passengers were still unloading luggage from the rear compartment (the driver was focussed on the mirror and moved off with the door open to avoid hitting it).

    Was this also Dublin Coach?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    tabbey wrote: »
    Was this also Dublin Coach?

    The Red Cow is dominated by DC.

    The day i drove their coach i seen no other operator there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,051 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    The Red Cow is dominated by DC.

    The day i drove their coach i seen no other operator there.

    Think it's just JJ and DC there, never seen anyone else


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