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Solo (young Han Solo film) *spoilers from post 1493*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,967 ✭✭✭buried


    tigger123 wrote: »
    Loved that game!

    Yeah, was great craic! The use of the actual original soundtrack really helped the feel of it, I think it was one of the first console games to use it. You'd be playing along to John William's score going "Holy $hit I'm in the Star Wars!"

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Where’s Tony?
    Curious to know what he thinks of this trailer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭Falthyron


    david75 wrote: »
    Where’s Tony?
    Curious to know what he thinks of this trailer

    He's in a state of mourning, perhaps? :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Falthyron wrote: »
    He's in a state of mourning, perhaps? :pac:

    I can see that. I’m shocked at the response it’s gotten. It’s left me confused but if people are on board for it more power to them.
    Heard a great thing today. The guy doesn’t have to capture Harrison Ford and all his glory. He has to capture a han that’s a decade younger and nine of us has seen that before.

    *the excuses are already starting but it’s a true enough statement too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭Falthyron


    david75 wrote: »
    I can see that. I’m shocked at the response it’s gotten. It’s left me confused but if people are on board for it more power to them.
    Heard a great thing today. The guy doesn’t have to capture Harrison Ford and all his glory. He has to capture a han that’s a decade younger and nine of us has seen that before.

    *the excuses are already starting but it’s a true enough statement too.

    Tbh, I really like the look of the film. In terms of style and cinematography, it looks great! I just wish it featured different characters, a different story-line, and a different time period.

    I would love for Disney to announce signing Denis Villeneuve to write and direct his own Star Wars film. A Star Wars film that can not feature the timeline of the prequel/original/sequel trilogies, or their respective characters.

    Also: I think the age thing is the main problem. When you look at Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade featuring River Phoenix as a young Indy who is in his teens and when we see Indy later on in the film he is in his forties, the transition (one of the best done in a film, imo) is more convincing. Harrison Ford could be an older River Phoenix. Alden is portraying Han in his mid-twenties from the looks of things and Han in A New Hope is early to mid-thirties. A tighter gap particularly at an age where there isn't much physical change to one's face. If Disney had made a 'Stranger Things'-age Han growing up on the streets of Corellia (as the trailer mentions) it would be more believable. I am referring to Stranger Things as a benchmark for style and the age of the actors and because its popular right now. They would also have an out and out proper kids film to work with.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Falthyron wrote: »
    Tbh, I really like the look of the film. In terms of style and cinematography, it looks great! I just wish it featured different characters, a different story-line, and a different time period.

    I would love for Disney to announce signing Denis Villeneuve to write and direct his own Star Wars film. A Star Wars film that can not feature the timeline of the prequel/original/sequel trilogies, or their respective characters.

    Also: I think the age thing is the main problem. When you look at Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade featuring River Phoenix as a young Indy who is in his teens and when we see Indy later on in the film he is in his forties, the transition (one of the best done in a film, imo) is more convincing. Harrison Ford could be an older River Phoenix. Alden is portraying Han in his mid-twenties from the looks of things and Han in A New Hope is early to mid-thirties. A tighter gap particularly at an age where there isn't much physical change to one's face. If Disney had made a 'Stranger Things'-age Han growing up on the streets of Corellia (as the trailer mentions) it would be more believable. I am referring to Stranger Things as a benchmark for style and the age of the actors and because its popular right now. They would also have an out and out proper kids film to work with.


    They design language and aesthetics in this trailer are almost identical to that of the Rebels animated series and that was brilliant to see, so might be worth checking that out. There’s a best of list out there you can look up. Loads of gold in that series. Good to see them being consistent in the same period with the same design. There might be some crossover too as with Hera and her ship the ghost and her droid chopper from Rebels appearing in rogue one.

    I think Vilneuve is a certainty for Star Wars. Just a Matter of time. I’m hoping to see that name attached to Kenobi tbh.

    This film looks like it’s going to be a stepping on point for a far younger audience, another entry point to get the up and coming generation. It’s just using established characters as a vehicle. This eff ticely lookw like Guardians of the galaxy by way of rogue one. No bad thing. One is great fun the other is great Star Wars.
    I definitely don’t think it’s being pitched to Star Wars fans. They have our money. We’re gonna go regardless (or what we think of it after).
    This will be a bigger success with casual audiences than hardcore fans im thinking.
    Every Star Wars film is designed to hit a balance to appeal to kids and adults and the kids are more than catered to. They won’t make one dedicated just to kids I don’t think. They have a new aninated series in th works and a live action tv series presumptively Aimed at adults coming too. The focus is broadening slowly but surely from just the films.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,595 ✭✭✭tigger123


    I think you might be reading a lot into the trailer tbh. There's lots of interesting stuff there, but there's no way of knowing really what the end product will be like in terms of tone and intended audience.

    For me, it doesn't really look or sound like Solo. Maybe that will change when I actually see it. But it doesn't really bother me a whole lot.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    tigger123 wrote: »
    I think you might be reading a lot into the trailer tbh. There's lots of interesting stuff there, but there's no way of knowing really what the end product will be like in terms of tone and intended audience.

    For me, it doesn't really look or sound like Solo. Maybe that will change when I actually see it. But it doesn't really bother me a whole lot.


    On solo, Just a compilation of thoughts from different Star Wars podcasts I’ve listened to. I don’t know if I’m on board at all for it after what we’ve seen. It’s so different in style yet has a Star Wars tone, it’s gonna takecsome adjustment but can’t decide for real until we’ve seen it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,595 ✭✭✭tigger123


    david75 wrote: »
    On solo, Just a compilation of thoughts from different Star Wars podcasts I’ve listened to. I don’t know if I’m on board at all for it after what we’ve seen. It’s so different in style yet has a Star Wars tone, it’s gonna takecsome adjustment but can’t decide for real until we’ve seen it.

    Is it that different though? It looks very much like R1 to me ( ... the whole 90 seconds we've seen so far!).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,394 ✭✭✭PhiloCypher


    This franchises obsession with tentacle creatures, the Exogorth from ESB , the Mind reading octopus in Rogue one , The Rathtars in Force Awakens and now whatever this is , is right up there with its obsession with Spherical Superweapons.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Way to upstage your new movie, Disney. Announcing all this new stuff. A day after releasing a trailer??

    It’s almost like you have no faith in it.
    Or you just want to settle shareholders nerves on a rather turbulent day at the stock market.

    Either way, yikes.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75




  • Site Banned Posts: 5 hero77


    can't wait for this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,724 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Could they not have got an actor who looked even a little bit like Harrison Ford?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    I still don't get how the Falcon can be so pristine. Didn't we see it in the prequels?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    I still don't get how the Falcon can be so pristine. Didn't we see it in the prequels?


    Best answer to that is what car looks the same ten years later? And the line of work?

    My guess is han totally distresses it to make it not flashy so as to avoid imperial attention. Makes sense if you’re a smuggler. You’d get pulled all the time in a hot rod.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Some plot info under each of the pics in that article.

    Looks so cool. Love the falcon in any form

    9234790347-54730-57430495.jpg?w=669


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭Falthyron


    I knew there was something off in those pictures. Alden is only 5ft 8' where as Harrison is 6ft 1'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    david75 wrote: »
    Best answer to that is what car looks the same ten years later? And the line of work?

    My guess is han totally distresses it to make it not flashy so as to avoid imperial attention. Makes sense if you’re a smuggler. You’d get pulled all the time in a hot rod.
    I suppose it may have been owned by a little old lady who kept it well valeted between the prequels and Solo. Then Han gets his hands on it and uses it for the equivalent of drawing turf from the bog. It's just I didn't peg Han for that kind of guy. I thought he would have been "ship proud" and kept the Falcon looking as well as he could.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    I suppose it may have been owned by a little old lady who kept it well valeted between the prequels and Solo. Then Han gets his hands on it and uses it for the equivalent of drawing turf from the bog. It's just I didn't peg Han for that kind of guy. I thought he would have been "ship proud" and kept the Falcon looking as well as he could.


    Lando owns it at this stage though. He looks like a player in the trailer so makes sense he’d have it all pimped out.


    The toy of it is called ‘kessel run millennium falcon’ so maybe it’s just all dolled up for the race.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭Falthyron


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Could they not have got an actor who looked even a little bit like Harrison Ford?

    Anthony Ingruber recently portrayed a young Harrison Ford in a film called 'The Age of Adaline'. He's relatively unknown and that may have had an impact on his chances, but when you consider the concerns over Alden's performance, I think (for looks alone) Anthony would have been the better choice so far. We will have to wait to see how Alden's performance turns out though.

    440988.JPG

    This is a little older, but still relevant. Ingruber doing his Solo impression.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,967 ✭✭✭buried


    Falthyron wrote: »
    I knew there was something off in those pictures. Alden is only 5ft 8' where as Harrison is 6ft 1'.

    I know they are only screen shots but the guy also looks rigid as fook, doesn't have that loose relaxed look Ford was so good at. Lounging in the cantina style

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭Falthyron


    buried wrote: »
    I know they are only screen shots but the guy also looks rigid as fook, doesn't have that loose relaxed look Ford was so good at. Lounging in the cantina style

    The picture of him sitting in the seat makes him look...small. Or the seat too big for him. He looks like a kid in it or something. I don't know. Maybe its the angle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,967 ✭✭✭buried


    Falthyron wrote: »
    The picture of him sitting in the seat makes him look...small. Or the seat too big for him. He looks like a kid in it or something. I don't know. Maybe its the angle.

    Yeah, your right, I can even see it too in that one up there with Chewy and Woody sitting down and him standing! Maybe he grows a few inches with the stress of doing the Kessel run later or something!

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭Falthyron


    buried wrote: »
    Yeah, your right, I can even see it too in that one up there with Chewy and Woody sitting down and him standing! Maybe he grows a few inches with the stress of doing the Kessel run later or something!

    Nah, the reasons for Han's sudden growth spurt will be explained in the Han Solo five volume graphic novel series that will come out after the film. Pre-order now from the Disney store for a bargain $79.99 :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Falthyron wrote: »
    Anthony Ingruber recently portrayed a young Harrison Ford in a film called 'The Age of Adaline'. He's relatively unknown and that may have had an impact on his chances, but when you consider the concerns over Alden's performance, I think (for looks alone) Anthony would have been the better choice so far. We will have to wait to see how Alden's performance turns out though.

    440988.JPG

    This is a little older, but still relevant. Ingruber doing his Solo impression.




    Oh god :)
    Are you messing?
    Doing an impression is not the same thing as acting.
    This guy did audition for Han and was told he does a great Harrison Ford impression, that’s all.
    He doesn’t have one single piece of what’s needed of Hans character, charisma, arrogance etc.

    Also has no nuance or cop on either. On YouTube campaigning to get himself hired *even after filming on Solo had begun* and doing Ford impressions.

    Yeah I really want this guy playing han (no i don’t)
    You’d be screaming at the screen if this guy got hired and the world would be screaming with you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭Falthyron


    david75 wrote: »
    Oh god :)
    Are you messing?
    Doing an impression is not the same thing as acting.
    This guy did audition for Han and was told he does a great Harrison Ford impression, that’s all.
    He doesn’t have one single piece of what’s needed of Hans character, charisma, arrogance etc.

    Also has no nuance or cop on either. On YouTube campaigning to get himself hired *even after filming on Solo had begun* and doing Ford impressions.

    Yeah I really want this guy playing han (no i don’t)
    You’d be screaming at the screen if this guy got hired and the world would be screaming with you.

    *sigh*

    Take a look at my post again, David. I said Anthony would have been a better choice in terms of the 'looks' department. In fact, I also said that Anthony's relative unknown status probably had an impact on his chances.

    To be clear: Anthony looks more like a young Harrison Ford than Alden does, imo.

    As for the acting aspect, I don't know if Anthony is a good actor. Nor do I know much about Alden. If Alden needed lessons and a teacher during production it suggests he wasn't giving the best performance or the performance Disney were hoping for. Perhaps Anthony could have done a better job? Or a worse one, I don't know. All I do know is, and as I said in my previous post, in terms of looks, Anthony is more on the money than Alden. As for your dramatic 'screaming at the screen' comment. No, I wouldn't. I could, at the very least, say: "Well, at least they picked someone who looks like Harrison Ford." That's about all I could say. As for the story and performance? We won't know until May 2018. With Alden, I can't even say he looks like Harrison because he doesn't.

    P.S. That Ford impression video is from 2008... In fact, the last time he did an impression of Harrison Ford on his YouTube channel was five years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,595 ✭✭✭tigger123


    In fairness, that is a pretty amazing impression.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    First big EW article on Solo. Some cool character info

    “I think the main thing that’s different is that the Han we meet in this film is more of an idealist,” Ehrenreich tells EW. “He has certain dreams that he follows, and we watch how it affects him as those dreams meet new realities — realities that are harder and more challenging than he’d expected.”

    http://ew.com/movies/2018/02/07/solo-a-star-wars-story-pictures-deep-dive/


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    This ones packed with good stuff from Ford. He loves Han a lot more than he’s ever let on it seems.

    “Tell them I told you everything you needed to know, and that you can’t tell anyone.”
    That was Harrison Ford’s advice to Alden Ehrenreich, the man who would be Han, when they sat down for lunch in January of last year shortly before production began on Solo: A Star Wars Story.

    “Han has survived and proven that he can survive, but he’s never sure he’s as quite as smart as he needs to be,” Howard said, recalling their conversation. “Change that. He’s not really ‘smart.’ That’s not the word he used. Han’s not as on top of it as he needs to be. So he wants to give the appearance of [control], but in fact, he’s often scrambling. I think Harrison played that beautifully, and Alden and I talked about both of those ideas a lot.”
    Even though he’s not technically involved in Solo, all of this is a window into Harrison Ford, too.
    He’ll roll his eyes over Star Wars, call Han “dumb as a stump,” and tell you he hasn’t given the character or this galaxy much thought.

    http://ew.com/movies/2018/02/07/harrison-ford-solo-star-wars-story/


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