Tens of thousands of child porn images uncovered in Garda raids.

Captain Obvious · 05-02-2018 06:22PM #1

Hopefully 31 perverts are ****ting themselves about their lives being over.

GARDAÍ HAVE SEARCHED 31 premises in 12 counties across Ireland as part of an operation targeting those with pornographic and abusive images of children.
In those searches carried out as part of Operation Ketch between Friday and today, “tens of thousands” of abusive images of children were found

http://www.thejournal.ie/garda-searches-child-porn-operation-ketch-3835279-Feb2018/

If you want to help Europol find these people they are always looking for assistance identifying images here.

BoroMan32 · 05-02-2018 06:36PM

31,000 images from private residences and no arrests made yet?

05-02-2018 06:39PM

BoroMan32 wrote: »

31,000 images from private residences and no arrests made yet?

I say they wanna make sure they get something like this locked down tight first - don't wanna risk making mistakes that'd let em walk away

wexie · 05-02-2018 06:44PM

bluewolf wrote: »

I say they wanna make sure they get something like this locked down tight first - don't wanna risk making mistakes that'd let em walk away

Would just having the images not be enough grounds to be arrested and taken in on the spot?

SEPT 23 1989 · 05-02-2018 06:52PM

Is a premises the same as a house?

eviltwin · 05-02-2018 06:53PM

Really hate the phrase "child porn". Let's call it what it's, images of child ABUSE. Calling those images pornography is a minimisation of what the children involved suffer.

Captain Obvious · 05-02-2018 07:07PM

wexie wrote: »

Would just having the images not be enough grounds to be arrested and taken in on the spot?

Yes. Unfortunately Irish law allows for only 24 hours to question somebody. So generally all the images will be catloged and resulting leads investigated before the person is detained for questioning so everything can be put to them at once.

retro:electro · 05-02-2018 07:09PM

eviltwin wrote: »

Really hate the phrase "child porn". Let's call it what it's, images of child ABUSE. Calling those images pornography is a minimisation of what the children involved suffer.

I was just about to say the same. I hate the terminology. It's not child porn, they're child sex abuse images.

Vronsky · 05-02-2018 07:12PM

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Hopefully 31 perverts are ****ting themselves about their lives being over.

http://www.thejournal.ie/garda-searches-child-porn-operation-ketch-3835279-Feb2018/

If you want to help Europol find these people they are always looking for assistance identifying images here.

There is only one of those images that anyone will be able to identify - the urban drainage channel.

wexie · 05-02-2018 07:14PM

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Yes. Unfortunately Irish law allows for only 24 hours to question somebody. So generally all the images will be catloged and resulting leads investigated before the person is detained for questioning so everything can be put to them at once.

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I'm actually kinda lost for words

So....surely they're not just free to do as they please in the mean time? I presume at the very least they'll have their passports taken off them?

That doesn't make any sense to me at all

s4uv3 · 05-02-2018 07:15PM

The police that deal with this stuff and have to view images and hear the horror stories are nothing short of heroes.
I wouldn't last ten minutes in the job.

wexie · 05-02-2018 07:17PM

s4uv3 wrote: »

The police that deal with this stuff and have to view images and hear the horror stories are nothing short of heroes.
I wouldn't last ten minutes in the job.

I know, really wouldn't fancy that job. Hope they get decent counseling support.
Don't even want to click on the link above for fear of what's there?

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy · 05-02-2018 07:17PM

Vronsky wrote: »

There is only one of those images that anyone will be able to identify - the urban drainage channel.

Not true. I’ve just submitted a guess at where the boiler might be, looks similar to a holiday apartment I stayed in before.

wexie · 05-02-2018 07:19PM

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy wrote: »

Not true. I’ve just submitted a guess at where the boiler might be, looks similar to a holiday apartment I stayed in before.

Are the pictures just inanimate objects and surroundings taking from the 'other' pictures?

eviltwin · 05-02-2018 07:20PM

wexie wrote: »

Are the pictures just inanimate objects and surroundings taking from the 'other' pictures?

Just random objects and some clothing.

Irish Guitarist · 05-02-2018 07:28PM

wexie wrote: »

Are the pictures just inanimate objects and surroundings taking from the 'other' pictures?

There's nothing graphic but there are a couple of pictures of children sitting down with their faces cropped out. Someone said they're pictures of clothes, but there's definitely children wearing the clothes.

Allinall · 05-02-2018 07:28PM

Bloody Gardai doing proper police work instead of catching people with no car tax.

I’m sick of it.

wexie · 05-02-2018 07:32PM

Allinall wrote: »

Bloody Gardai doing proper police work instead of catching people with no car tax.

I’m sick of it.

Ya know, I'm all for a bit of banter and personally I think there aren't many things you shouldn't be allowed make fun of...

this is one of em though

eagle eye · 05-02-2018 07:34PM

Well hopefully these criminals get plenty of jail time. Sadly its unlikely they get much, if any, time behind bars with our awful justice system.

The_Valeyard · 05-02-2018 07:38PM

Say this was timed to coincide with internet safety day tomorrow. Was great how they kept quiet the last three days until the operation was complete. Otherwise evidence could have been destroyed.

khaldrogo · 05-02-2018 07:48PM

eviltwin wrote:

Really hate the phrase "child porn". Let's call it what it's, images of child ABUSE. Calling those images pornography is a minimisation of what the children involved suffer.

For sake of being pedantic, and while I abhor these scum, if someone has a telephotic lens and takes pics of kids from 100m or so away on a beach or something then its technically porn and not abuse.

Someone having images of kids and someone physically abusing kids are different levels of scum.

If someone took a pic of my kid from 100m away I'd probably make a gesture towards them to fug off but if someone touched my kid I literally kill them.

eviltwin · 05-02-2018 07:52PM

khaldrogo wrote: »

For sake of being pedantic, and while I abhor these scum, if someone has a telephotic lens and takes pics of kids from 100m or so away on a beach or something then its technically porn and not abuse.

Someone having images of kids and someone physically abusing kids are different levels of scum.

If someone took a pic of my kid from 100m away I'd probably make a gesture towards them to fug off but if someone touched my kid I literally kill them.

I wouldn't call a photo of a child doing something normal like playing on a beach porn either.

I get what you are saying and agree there are levels, I just feel using the word porn in relation to children is wrong and inappropriate.

retro:electro · 05-02-2018 08:02PM

khaldrogo wrote: »

For sake of being pedantic, and while I abhor these scum, if someone has a telephotic lens and takes pics of kids from 100m or so away on a beach or something then its technically porn and not abuse.

Someone having images of kids and someone physically abusing kids are different levels of scum.

If someone took a pic of my kid from 100m away I'd probably make a gesture towards them to fug off but if someone touched my kid I literally kill them.

The abuse angle is doesn't just come from the content of the image, but the intent behind the pictures. Having some dirty pervert getting his jollies from watching images of children is an abuse of their rights and that isn't minimised by whether or not the child is aware the pictures are being taken. It's never a victimless crime because the exploitation doesn't end when the image is taken, it only begins, and so the abuse continues.

bear1 · 05-02-2018 08:07PM

I can't understand the minds of the people who get off to these sick acts.
They are kids, KIDS! Innocence ripped away from them for the pleasure of some sick pieces of **** humans who has no worth to the world other than to spread the diagustiness of child abuse.
I sincerely hope it's a life sentence and they then get to witness first hand and personally experience the abuse the children suffered.
Well done the guards.

baylah17 · 05-02-2018 08:42PM

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/woman-accused-of-dressing-child-up-in-lingerie-to-be-raped-by-her-husband-36563934.html
How about this beauty? Dressed her 4 year old daughter in lingerie for her husband to rape.

Ulysses Gaze · 05-02-2018 09:05PM

Let's just hope that if any of these potential scum do go to trial, that "Suspended Sentence" Nolan is not presiding.

240 images and 2 videos? Suspended sentence

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/former-youth-worker-caught-with-child-pornography-avoids-jail-35583357.html

1,300 unique image files and 11 unique movies? Suspended Sentence

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/suspended-sentence-for-music-teacher-who-had-child-pornography-1.3290479

5900+ images? Suspended Sentence

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/former-civil-servant-avoids-jail-term-for-child-pornography-613275.html

300 images? Suspended Sentence

https://www.thejournal.ie/darknet-3311338-Mar2017/

God help you if you smuggle Garlic though!

Dr Turk Turkelton · 05-02-2018 09:19PM

There won't be a relish milked in Ballymaloe tonight.

Summer wind · 05-02-2018 10:16PM

It makes me feel sick to think that we breathe the same air as these disgusting bastards.

McCrack · 05-02-2018 10:53PM

wexie wrote: »

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I'm actually kinda lost for words

So....surely they're not just free to do as they please in the mean time? I presume at the very least they'll have their passports taken off them?

That doesn't make any sense to me at all

The gardai receive intelligence that someone is in possession/distributing child abuse pictures or videos. They get a warrant and search and seize electronic devices.

They then have to analyse them which could take weeks or months. Then they can make their arrests for the purposes of interview and charging.

Bail will normally be granted pending DPP directions and plea and unless there is a specific concern the accused will not appear again an application to surrender passport will be made but that would be unusual.

Signing on conditions at local garda station would be typical

khaldrogo · 05-02-2018 10:57PM

eviltwin wrote:

I get what you are saying and agree there are levels, I just feel using the word porn in relation to children is wrong and inappropriate.

100%

vicwatson · 05-02-2018 10:59PM

Dr Turk Turkelton wrote: »

There won't be a relish milked in Ballymaloe tonight.

Oh oh you mentioned the B word, thread lockdown coming

Tens of thousands of child porn images uncovered in Garda raids.

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