Another Sinn Fein blunder?

Brendan Bendar · 04-02-2018 02:17PM #1

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/gerry-kelly-removed-clamp-from-his-car-sinn-féin-confirms-1.3379431

Can this be true?

If it is, it would appear that it's another faux pas by SINN Fein following on the Kingsmill sliced pan incident.

A party who it was difficult to lay a glove on up to this seems to have 'pulled the ripcord' ?

First it's wee Barry and O'Muilleoir

Then auld Dessie

Now it appears that Jerry has cracked.

What's going on here.

uck51js9zml2yt · 04-02-2018 02:23PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/gerry-kelly-removed-clamp-from-his-car-sinn-féin-confirms-1.3379431

Can this be true?

If it is, it would appear that it's another faux pas by SINN Fein following on the Kingsmill sliced pan incident.

A party who it was difficult to lay a glove on up to this seems to have 'pulled the ripcord' ?

First it's wee Barry and O'Muilleoir

Then auld Dessie

Now it appears that Jerry has cracked.

What's going on here.

There was someone else (a councillor) suspended for 6 months. Can't recall her name.

But it's ok...there's no problems in SF and they will be in government next time.....just saving the shinners from posting

Forgot to say.... we're all SF haters

Gatling · 04-02-2018 02:27PM

Not having a great week ,

Expect them to come out and say it was a prank

Fr_Dougal · 04-02-2018 02:28PM

Terrorists aren’t known for being law abiding.

McMurphy · 04-02-2018 02:28PM

If it belonged to one of the many private clamping companies that consistently gouge the public and operate under very grey legal area's, be the politician unionist/nationalist or any other persuasion I say good on them - well done - high five.

You can see the angle of the article, from who was morally outraged on Twitter to who was calling for his resignation.

Anyway. Well done Gerry Kelly.

If however it was council clampers then bad Gerry Kelly. I would ramp my outrage meter up to 11 if it went that far.

corner of hells · 04-02-2018 02:32PM

Beatrice Late Veil wrote: »

There was someone else (a councillor) suspended for 6 months. Can't recall her name.

But it's ok...there's no problems in SF and they will be in government next time.....just saving the shinners from posting

Forgot to say.... we're all SF haters

I most certainly do not hate sinn fein , if anything I'm looking forward to Marylou taking command and years of hilarity ensuing.AH most likely will go into overdrive as Gerry makes a run for presidency , heres hoping they set up their own roadshow bringing entertainment to the country , live

Brendan Bendar · 04-02-2018 02:36PM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

If it belonged to one of the many private clamping companies that consistently gouge the public and operate under very grey legal area's, be the politician unionist/nationalist or any other persuasion I say good on them - well done - high five.

You can see the angle of the article, from who was morally outraged on Twitter to who was calling for his resignation.

Anyway. Well done Gerry Kelly.

If however it was council clampers then bad Gerry Kelly. I would ramp my outrage meter up to 11 if it went that far.

Grey legal areas in the clamping arena?

What kind of places are these?

Seems strange that a prominent lad in SINN Fein would leave himself open in that situation.

Doesn't seem to be too sure as it would appear he has 'disappeared' for a while.

Allinall · 04-02-2018 02:40PM

His mistake was not making the clamp disappear.

McMurphy · 04-02-2018 02:43PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Grey legal areas in the clamping arena?

What kind of places are these?

Seems strange that a prominent lad in SINN Fein would leave himself open in that situation.

Doesn't seem to be too sure as it would appear he has 'disappeared' for a while.

Here's an idea Brenner - up in the search area of the site, type out "private clampers" and enlighten yourself.

Like I said. If Ian paisley emerged from the sod himself and removed a clamp from those **** - I'd applaud him myself.

FTA69 · 04-02-2018 02:51PM

Fair play to him. Private clamping is a disgrace and all citizens should endeavour to resist them.

The_Valeyard · 04-02-2018 02:53PM

Removed a clamp. The horror.

Comhrá · 04-02-2018 02:54PM

Great stroke of luck all the same - having the bolt-cutter handy in the boot of the car at the time.

cycle4fun · 04-02-2018 02:58PM

What sort of example is the party spokesperson on policing making when he is pictured allegedly breaking the law with a large pair of boltcutters breaking / taking off a wheel clamp?

Dyr · 04-02-2018 02:59PM

Interesting to note that despite the AH rule on no political threads that there's 3 shinner bashing threads on the front page

Funny old game this eh?

Allinall · 04-02-2018 02:59PM

cycle4fun wrote: »

What sort of example is the party spokesperson on policing making when he is pictured allegedly breaking the law with a large pair of boltcutters breaking / taking off a wheel clamp?

Keeping up the image of thugs in suits.

Fanny Wank · 04-02-2018 03:00PM

cycle4fun wrote: »

What sort of example is the party spokesperson on policing making when he is pictured allegedly breaking the law with a large pair of boltcutters breaking / taking off a wheel clamp?

Did he break the law? Private clamping is a grey area in many jurisdictions

I can't stand SF, would never vote for them but this smacks as a media circus over nothing

Brendan Bendar · 04-02-2018 03:05PM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Here's an idea Brenner - up in the search area of the site, type out "private clampers" and enlighten yourself.

Like I said. If Ian paisley emerged from the sod himself and removed a clamp from those **** - I'd applaud him myself.

John, forgive me for being a bit pedantic, but the clampers are either legal or they are not.

I suppose we will have to wait for the 'court case' to establish that.

Mary Lou is stepping into a bit of turbulence here as a lot of her 'subjects' seem to think they are above the law?

For a party who were Teflon clean in the very recent past it looks like the mask may be slipping a bit.

Surprised that an experienced punter like Kelly would 'do a Barry' as it were.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 04-02-2018 03:08PM

Not like he shot the lock off with his Armalite then kidnapped the clamper.

Fair play to him.

Phoebas · 04-02-2018 03:08PM

Fanny **** wrote: »

Did he break the law? Private clamping is a grey area in many jurisdictions

I can't stand SF, would never vote for them but this smacks as a media circus over nothing

It's been reported to the PSNI so time will tell.

Kelly is SFs Police and Justice spokesman, so this might have legs. He's also on the policing board, so we potentially have a man who oversees the police and leads SF policy on justice blatantly breaking the law.

smurgen · 04-02-2018 03:16PM

It's mental, the anti Sinn Feinn crowd will literally champion anyone from loyalist paramilitaries to car clampers to spite the party.brainwashed and amusing.

Brendan Bendar · 04-02-2018 03:17PM

Elle Full Oriole wrote: »

Not like he shot the lock off with his Armalite then kidnapped the clamper.

Fair play to him, clamper's are scumbags.

O'rdinary lads doing a job, Mak, just like you an me.

Bit harsh there.

McMurphy · 04-02-2018 03:36PM

Phoebas wrote: »

It's been reported to the PSNI so time will tell.

Kelly is SFs Police and Justice spokesman, so this might have legs. He's also on the policing board, so we potentially have a man who oversees the police and leads SF policy on justice blatantly breaking the law.

Did he break the law?

Are Am Eye · 04-02-2018 03:40PM

Sin Fein want jam on both sides of their bread.
But they're going to have to choose between the bolt cutters and the ballot box.

Phoebas · 04-02-2018 03:48PM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Did he break the law?

We don't know for sure - that's why I say 'potentially' , but the clampers have made a complaint to the PSNI, so time will tell.

This is a minor transgression and the sensible way for Kelly to deal with it is to take the sting out of it with a fullsome mea culpa, but as is often the case with politicians, they try to brazen it out. That's what I predict here unfortunately.

McMurphy · 04-02-2018 03:50PM

Phoebas wrote: »

We don't know for sure - that's why I say 'potentially' , but the clampers have made a complaint to the PSNI, so time will tell.

I wouldn't hold my breath. Like I said, private clampers operate under an extremely grey area of the law.

I will doff my cap to Gerry Kelly on this one - the more people that do likewise the better.

04-02-2018 03:58PM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Did he break the law?

I'd say if he removed the clamp and in the process damaged it then maybe yes. The clamping company mentioned 'criminal damage'. If he had got it off without damaging it (which can be done btw) then the company (a private one) would have little come back I reckon.

cycle4fun · 04-02-2018 04:29PM

Parking in a no-parking area, with double yellow lines, then damaging private property ??

What if everyone ignored double yellow lines?

As someone asked, "Is Gerry special, above the rules that apply to you and me?"

Brendan Bendar · 04-02-2018 04:30PM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

I wouldn't hold my breath. Like I said, private clampers operate under an extremely grey area of the law.

I will doff my cap to Gerry Kelly on this one - the more people that do likewise the better.

Grey area of the law, John.

Could you back up that assertion with a tad of evidence.

uck51js9zml2yt · 04-02-2018 04:35PM

corner of hells wrote: »

I most certainly do not hate sinn fein , if anything I'm looking forward to Marylou taking command and years of hilarity ensuing.AH most likely will go into overdrive as Gerry makes a run for presidency , heres hoping they set up their own roadshow bringing entertainment to the country , live

I should have put it on quotes...my bad

.
I was referring to SF supporters saying that about the rest of us who see them for what they are!

suicide_circus · 04-02-2018 04:50PM

If I was a Sinn Fein candidate I'd change my name to Chucky R. Law

Pintman Paddy Losty · 04-02-2018 04:53PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Grey area of the law, John.

Could you back up that assertion with a tad of evidence.

Not a fan of presenting evidence I'd say.

Another Sinn Fein blunder?

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