Terenure v Michael's

steddyeddy · 30-01-2018 11:43PM

The Queens in Dalkey was the site of similar incidents over the years. Getting handed advantage doesn't bring class with it.

thebaz · 31-01-2018 12:06AM

handbags at dawn - hardly Russian style hooligans - lets be honest are punch-ups not part of growing up ?? - be it football, gangs, inter schools, in school, your football clubs -

WHIP IT! · 31-01-2018 08:08PM

https://twitter.com/Liveline_RTE/status/958757305918648320

Can't see anything about this anywhere else...

The Rape of Lucretia · 31-01-2018 08:31PM

WHIP IT! wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Liveline_RTE/status/958757305918648320

Can't see anything about this anywhere else...

Less fashionable schools. It would have been lower quality argybargy.

mynamejeff · 01-02-2018 01:35AM

WHIP IT! wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Liveline_RTE/status/958757305918648320

Can't see anything about this anywhere else...

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/four-men-arrested-over-clash-following-schools-rugby-match-36553984.html

so a problem arose , and a problem was dealt with problem solved

Roger Hassenforder · 01-02-2018 08:37AM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Less fashionable schools. It would have been lower quality argybargy.

They're classifying it as a fracas.

sjb25 · 01-02-2018 08:47AM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

They're classifying it as a fracas.

At least it wasn’t a shemozle

bobbysands81 · 01-02-2018 09:12AM

Nokotan wrote: »

My friend went to Michael's and apparently one of their chants was;

You're dad works for my dad! You're dad works for my dad.

He's never allowed forget that he was involved in this ****e.

We are rich,
We are cool,
We are Blackrock
and we rule.

***cringe***

Hector Savage · 01-02-2018 09:59AM

Nokotan wrote: »

My friend went to Michael's and apparently one of their chants was;

You're dad works for my dad! You're dad works for my dad.

He's never allowed forget that he was involved in this ****e.

Christ!

01-02-2018 10:31AM

Fees are only c. €6500 a year. There are loads of very ordinary parents who are paying thousands per month for childcare. There's an awful lot of outdated 19th-century bullshít about "prestige", "elite" and these schools.

Even the rugby, a 19th-century ape the coloniser hangover if ever there was one, speaks volumes for their little bubble. If any of these schools competed in the much more popular sports of football, hurling or soccer they wouldn't stand a chance. They know it. We all know it. So they have a little competition between a handful of like-minded anglocentric schools where they're bound to win something at some stage. A complete joke.

K.Flyer · 01-02-2018 10:44AM

Nokotan wrote: »

My friend went to Michael's and apparently one of their chants was;

You're dad works for my dad! You're dad works for my dad.

He's never allowed forget that he was involved in this ****e.

bobbysands81 wrote: »

We are rich,
We are cool,
We are Blackrock
and we rule.

***cringe***

Kinda reminds one of that drunk girl..

"Something something my Dad something K.P.M.G." :pac:

Roger Hassenforder · 01-02-2018 12:32PM

sjb25 wrote: »

At least it wasn’t a shemozle

Thats a GAA thing

01-02-2018 12:37PM

K.Flyer wrote: »

Kinda reminds one of that drunk girl..

"Something something my Dad something K.P.M.G." :pac:

Not allowed speak about that on boards!!!

Roger Hassenforder · 01-02-2018 12:47PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Even the rugby, a 19th-century ape the coloniser hangover if ever there was one, speaks volumes for their little bubble. If any of these schools competed in the much more popular sports of football, hurling or soccer they wouldn't stand a chance.

soccer is an "ape the coloniser (?) hangover"...
But its ok?
Should it not be classified along with those other foreign sports like hockey, basketball, tennis, cricket, popularity notwithstanding?
Why the ire for rugby?

Go around clubs like Highfield, Thomond, Richmond, Boyne, Cliffden, Listowel, Bantry, Abbeyfeale etc with that "ape the coloniser hangover" guff, see how you get on.

01-02-2018 01:32PM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

soccer is an "ape the coloniser (?) hangover"...
But its ok?
Should it not be classified along with those other foreign sports like hockey, basketball, tennis, cricket, popularity notwithstanding?
Why the ire for rugby?

Soccer, the game of the English colonial garrison in Ireland, is historically the sport of the knackers and thugs. The Roman Church people who established Clongowes, Blackrock etc for the aspiring Paddys in Ireland were hardly going to ape the sport of the English riff-raff, soccer, when they could ape the sport of the English elite, rugby. Nothing about sport, everything about aping the sport of the powerful in 19th century Ireland. Not really complicated. In 2018, with the British Empire gone and the post-Brexit British state crumbling and declining it's all super cringe slaveenism that such backward-looking anglocentric schools exist in Ireland. They're a bit slow catching up with changing global power dynamics, to put it mildly.

Zulu · 01-02-2018 01:40PM

You didn't get in? Or got bullied out??

padd b1975 · 01-02-2018 01:51PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Soccer, the game of the English colonial garrison in Ireland, is historically the sport of the knackers and thugs. The Roman Church people who established Clongowes, Blackrock etc for the aspiring Paddys in Ireland were hardly going to ape the sport of the English riff-raff, soccer, when they could ape the sport of the English elite, rugby. Nothing about sport, everything about aping the sport of the powerful in 19th century Ireland. Not really complicated. In 2018, with the British Empire gone and the post-Brexit British state crumbling and declining it's all super cringe slaveenism that such backward-looking anglocentric schools exist in Ireland. They're a bit slow catching up with changing global power dynamics, to put it mildly.

^^^^^^

Couldn't kick snow off a rope I suspect.

The Rape of Lucretia · 01-02-2018 02:03PM

sjb25 wrote: »

At least it wasn’t a shemozle

Term that can be used exclusively in the GAA sphere and argot, like 'goaled', 'tribesmen', 'banner county', 'bragging rights', or 'mighty men of ###'

(### : insert any county).

Roger Hassenforder · 01-02-2018 02:13PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Soccer, the game of the English colonial garrison in Ireland, is historically the sport of the knackers and thugs. The Roman Church people who established those schools for the aspiring Paddys in Ireland were hardly going to ape the sport of the English riff-raff, soccer, when they could ape the sport of the English elite, rugby. Nothing about sport, everything about aping the sport of the powerful in 19th century Ireland. Not really complicated. In 2018, with the British Empire gone and the post-Brexit British state crumbling and declining it's all super cringe slaveenism that such backward-looking anglocentric schools exist in Ireland. They're a bit slow catching up with changing global power dynamics, to put it mildly.

Are you actually frothing while you type this?
So its the schools not the game. At least thats clarified

Maybe the schools in their formative years wanted to introduce sports and aspired to the ideals and qualities inherent in rugby - discipline, respect, cognisant of their affluent catchment?
Less to do with "slaveenism" , more catering to customer demand.

Or is there a whiff of" taking the soup"? "Aspiring Paddies"? Really? Did they sell out on the GAA or something (which incidentally wasnt founded until 24years after Blackrock was founded)

Roger Hassenforder · 01-02-2018 02:16PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Term that can be used exclusively in the GAA sphere and argot, like 'goaled', 'tribesmen', 'banner county', 'bragging rights', or 'mighty men of ###'

(### : insert any county).

You forgot sledging
Defn. Verb.
Aka. Slagging, but differs as it usually precedes violence.

c68zapdsm5i1ru · 01-02-2018 05:23PM

thebaz wrote: »

handbags at dawn - hardly Russian style hooligans - lets be honest are punch-ups not part of growing up ?? - be it football, gangs, inter schools, in school, your football clubs -

Except these men were supposed to already be grown up.

01-02-2018 05:41PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Soccer, the game of the English colonial garrison in Ireland, is historically the sport of the knackers and thugs.

It's THE global game and always will be. Every nation on Earth plays it. You continue crying into your tin whistle and copy of Peig there though.

castletownman · 01-02-2018 05:57PM

Every year the Indo (I know I know) produce a special pull-out previewing the Leinster Schools senior cup. Building it up as some sort of bastion of Irish sporting tradition and attempting to whet the appetite of the affluent.

Yet, the Hogan and Dr.Croke Cups are arguably more prestigious competitions, and certainly more inclusive nationwide, but yet aren't afforded anywhere near the same publicity or fanfare.

No wonder those rugger lads go around with a sense of entitlement. Built up from a young age as ****-hot, yet I wonder what percentage forge any sort of professional career in the game? But that's okay- they can partake in their Alma Mater's regular get-togethers with the other goys and partake in the song singing and heavy drinking.

The Lost Sheep · 01-02-2018 06:01PM

castletownman wrote: »

Every year the Indo (I know I know) produce a special pull-out previewing the Leinster Schools senior cup. Building it up as some sort of bastion of Irish sporting tradition and attempting to whet the appetite of the affluent.

Yet, the Hogan and Dr.Croke Cups are arguably more prestigious competitions, and certainly more inclusive nationwide, but yet aren't afforded anywhere near the same publicity or fanfare.

No wonder those rugger lads go around with a sense of entitlement. Built up from a young age as ****-hot, yet I wonder what percentage forge any sort of professional career in the game? But that's okay- they can partake in their Alma Mater's regular get-togethers with the other goys and partake in the song singing and heavy drinking.

Its not just the Leinster schools cup they preview
And the hogan and croke cups are not more prestigious. Are they more inclusive. The schools rugby cups are graded. Theyre dominated in leinster by fee paying schools but more and more new schools are qualifying for the vinnie murray and now the main senior schools cup. The number of new schools is even higher at the junior grade

Yamanoto · 01-02-2018 06:58PM

castletownman wrote: »

Built up from a young age as ****-hot, yet I wonder what percentage forge any sort of professional career in the game?

In the case of St. Michael's, 2% to 3% of each years Senior Cup team are going on to become professional Rugby players.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/schools-rugby/two-or-three-per-cent-of-each-year-go-professional-at-the-moment-how-one-school-has-become-irish-rugbys-biggest-production-line-36482484.html

Chips Lovell · 01-02-2018 07:02PM

What about badminton. Is that a garrison game too?

The Lost Sheep · 01-02-2018 07:02PM

Yamanoto wrote: »

In the case of St. Michael's, 2% to 3% of each years Senior Cup team are going on to become professional Rugby players.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/schools-rugby/two-or-three-per-cent-of-each-year-go-professional-at-the-moment-how-one-school-has-become-irish-rugbys-biggest-production-line-36482484.html

Yes but what percentage drop out of the sport at 18-22. Multiples of the tiny percentage that go on and become pros

Yamanoto · 01-02-2018 07:13PM

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Yes but what percentage drop out of the sport at 18-22. Multiples of the tiny percentage that go on and become pros

That's a given though & such a dropoff would be replicated across most every school & every sport (with a pro component) in the country - whereas the 2-3% entering into a professional set-up straight out of school is something of a nonpareil.

The Lost Sheep · 01-02-2018 07:17PM

Yamanoto wrote: »

That's a given though & such a dropoff would be replicated across most every school & every sport (with a pro component) in the country - whereas the 2-3% entering into a professional set-up straight out of school is something of a nonpareil.

Yes there is a drop off. Of course there is but its far higher from my experience in rugby than other sports especially with the way in many areas you only play rugby(can only play) with your school in your teenage years and there is no links with clubs and that affects player retention rates

jmayo · 01-02-2018 07:33PM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

soccer is an "ape the coloniser (?) hangover"...
But its ok?
Should it not be classified along with those other foreign sports like hockey, basketball, tennis, cricket, popularity notwithstanding?
Why the ire for rugby?

Go around clubs like Highfield, Thomond, Richmond, Boyne, Cliffden, Listowel, Bantry, Abbeyfeale etc with that "ape the coloniser hangover" guff, see how you get on.

Yeah but the snobby clubs attached to Dublin schools would look down on those clubs.
It's like comparing watching a Leinster game in Kielys with watching it in the Dinn Ri in Carlow.

One particular place leaves a real sour taste in the mouth and it aint the beer in Carlow.

Deleted User wrote: »

Soccer, the game of the English colonial garrison in Ireland, is historically the sport of the knackers and thugs. The Roman Church people who established Clongowes, Blackrock etc for the aspiring Paddys in Ireland were hardly going to ape the sport of the English riff-raff, soccer, when they could ape the sport of the English elite, rugby. Nothing about sport, everything about aping the sport of the powerful in 19th century Ireland. Not really complicated. In 2018, with the British Empire gone and the post-Brexit British state crumbling and declining it's all super cringe slaveenism that such backward-looking anglocentric schools exist in Ireland. They're a bit slow catching up with changing global power dynamics, to put it mildly.

Do you have a Celtic shirt by any chance ?

Terenure v Michael's

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