Dublin Coach Experience Discussion Thread

thelad95 · 03-12-2017 10:31am

04 setra

boardsuser1 · 03-12-2017 10:34am

thelad95 wrote: »

04 setra

Why am I not surprised :rolleyes:

Those things are seriously beyond their best before date.

3/4 million kilometres and the rest on them by now.

s14driftking · 04-12-2017 12:01am

tabbey wrote: »

Red Cow roundabout has been gone many years.

If you have to post fiction, please make it credible.

No fiction. Red cow interchange or whatever it’s called now. I was coming from city centre they were coming from m50. I was in the second lane coming from the city with a car on my inside and he just cut in front of us.

JeffK88 · 05-12-2017 11:49am

While in no way defending the drivers actions as clearly he was in the wrong that particular exit into Red Cow luas is very poorly designed for traffic coming from the M50. Ive been on many a bus that pretty much had to come to a halt in order to change across two lanes in such a short distance.

nilescraneo · 05-12-2017 1:40pm

M50/N7 interchange is a joke public transport wise alright, no priority for busses going city bound. Bus is regularly delayed 5-8 minutes in the mornings trying to access ****ty bus lane which cars exiting the M50 block. The whole Red Cow Luas station design is a disaster as well.

tabbey · 05-12-2017 4:35pm

nilescraneo wrote: »

M50/N7 interchange is a joke public transport wise alright, no priority for busses going city bound. Bus is regularly delayed 5-8 minutes in the mornings trying to access ****ty bus lane which cars exiting the M50 block. The whole Red Cow Luas station design is a disaster as well.

Yes, we could have a park and ride nearby, capable of taking thousands of cars.

Bus priority, legally enforced, would be the single biggest improvement in bus travel, not just in Dublin, but throughout the country.

boardsuser1 · 05-12-2017 6:14pm

Another breakdown today.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1962165954022117&set=gm.1229582170519272&type=3&theater&ifg=1

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1962172544021458&set=p.1962172544021458&type=3&theater&ifg=1

devnull · 05-12-2017 6:31pm

They're two different coaches.

One is a Setra and the other is one of the 'new' 2009 Vanhool deckers.

boardsuser1 · 05-12-2017 6:39pm

devnull wrote: »

They're two different coaches.

One is a Setra and the other is one of the 'new' 2009 Vanhool deckers.

Yeah, i actually edited the post,strange why the vanhool bit didn't appear, that one was last week, the setra was today.

punisher5112 · 05-12-2017 10:25pm

Anyone else see a pussy when they opened the 2nd link.....

boardsuser1 · 05-12-2017 11:00pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Anyone else see a pussy when they opened the 2nd link.....

Filthy boy :pac:

punisher5112 · 05-12-2017 11:22pm

Cork Truck Driver wrote: »

Filthy boy :pac:

I'm sorry I couldn't hold it in;-)

brokenarms · 06-12-2017 6:59am

punisher5112 wrote: »

I'm sorry I couldn't hold it in;-)

Ginger as well ..

Odyssey 2005 · 06-12-2017 10:11am

punisher5112 wrote: »

I'm sorry I couldn't hold it in;-)

Said the actress to the bishop.

boardsuser1 · 06-12-2017 11:03am

A rare compliment for Dublin Coach

https://twitter.com/Shannon_RFC/status/936999158963167232

devnull · 06-12-2017 11:08am

Well the 2014 Mercedes coaches would be a lot better than the majority of the fleet!

But those are the newest vehicles that are used on ROI routes (2016 and 2017 ones are used exclusively on Belfast and Tours) and often a few of the 2014 coaches are on private hires rather than on scheduled services

boardsuser1 · 06-12-2017 11:10am

devnull wrote: »

Well the 2014 Mercedes coaches would be a lot better than the majority of the fleet!

But those are the newest vehicles that are used on ROI routes (2016 and 2017 ones are used exclusively on Belfast and Tours) and often a few of the 2014 coaches are on private hires rather than on scheduled services

They wouldn't dare use Setra's on a private hire.

People would still be waiting to get home from a breakdown.

The tourismo's have broken down,but these reports are few and far between compared to the rest of the fleet.

devnull · 06-12-2017 11:25am

Cork Truck Driver wrote: »

They wouldn't dare use Setra's on a private hire.

That's my point.

They've been running a two tier operation for a good while now, they present an image of a very young, modern fleet on their tours, Belfast route and private hires but most of their regular scheduled services couldn't be more different.

kerryked · 06-12-2017 10:32pm

Blue Dublin Coach broken down just outside UL this evening around 7

s14driftking · 15-12-2017 6:10pm

Cork Truck Driver wrote: »

A rare compliment for Dublin Coach

https://twitter.com/Shannon_RFC/status/936999158963167232

Two buses one spare in case the other breaks downðŸ€£ðŸ€£ðŸ€£

road_high · 27-01-2018 8:48pm

Got the Dublin coach from Dublin CC to Kilkenny this evening- all in all for 10 euro single it was good.
Left bang on time at 16.00, arrived in KK at 17.35 which was very impressive considering the time they waste pussy footing around at the Red Cow Luas (why not just collect people and leave?). Plus roadworks on the M7.
The Coach was ancient of course, smelly and carpet coming apart! They smell like clothes smell after a boozy night on the town! Could be a super service if they upgraded the coaches. Assume they will have to do that soon?

boardsuser1 · 27-01-2018 8:51pm

road_high wrote: »

Got the Dublin coach from Dublin CC to Kilkenny this evening- all in all for 10 euro single it was good.
Left bang on time at 16.00, arrived in KK at 17.35 which was very impressive considering the time they waste pussy footing around at the Red Cow Luas (why not just collect people and leave?). Plus roadworks on the M7.
The Coach was ancient of course, smelly and carpet coming apart! They smell like clothes smell after a boozy night on the town! Could be a super service if they upgraded the coaches. Assume they will have to do that soon?

It didn’t break down or catch fire then?

road_high · 27-01-2018 8:54pm

Cork Truck Driver wrote: »

It didn’t break down or catch fire then?

No to be fair it flew along!

punisher5112 · 27-01-2018 8:58pm

road_high wrote: »

No to be fair it flew along!

I would be slightly concerned something that worn out flew along.

boardsuser1 · 27-01-2018 8:58pm

road_high wrote: »

No to be fair it flew along!

They can be a bit hit and miss with their service.

I had 4 of them in front of me at the one time at while back while in Kildare.

Feast or famine

road_high · 27-01-2018 9:01pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

I would be slightly concerned something that worn out flew along.

Now you mention it, it did kind sway side to side slightly for no apparent reason twice on the M9- today wasn't windy and it wasn't passing anything at the time

belfast stephen · 27-01-2018 9:02pm

I see DC have 5 181 Reg Merc Tourismos on the road

BuilderPlumber · 27-01-2018 9:04pm

I mainly had good experiences with them and most other bus services. The old unreliable buses that break down I find with Bus Eireann and no one else. Dublin Coach's buses seem new and clean by comparison.

road_high · 27-01-2018 9:04pm

belfast stephen wrote: »

I see DC have 5 181 Reg Merc Tourismos on the road

Certain routes (like Belfast) get the new ones. The Waterford/Kilkenny route mainly gets the old slop!

devnull · 27-01-2018 9:06pm

belfast stephen wrote: »

I see DC have 5 181 Reg Merc Tourismos on the road

Are these to replace some of the 2004 Setra vehicles that are seen operating on the Limerick and Waterford/Cork routes?

They need more than 5 though!

Odyssey 2005 · 27-01-2018 9:07pm

road_high wrote: »

No to be fair it flew along!

In the outside lame holding up traffic presumably.

road_high · 27-01-2018 9:46pm

Does anyone bother going fully to/from Dublin to Cork? I'd imagine the main advantage there must be to serve Waterford to Cork journeys.
It would be a very long journey to Cork on these older buses when you can get the Aircoach or BE direct down the M8. Must be a good hour longer going via the M9/N25.

end of the road · 27-01-2018 9:53pm

road_high wrote: »

Does anyone bother going fully to/from Dublin to Cork? I'd imagine the main advantage there must be to serve Waterford to Cork journeys.
It would be a very long journey to Cork on these older buses when you can get the Aircoach or BE direct down the M8. Must be a good hour longer going via the M9/N25.

yeah that's my understanding of it anyway.

WishUWereHere · 27-01-2018 10:03pm

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

I mainly had good experiences with them and most other bus services. The old unreliable buses that break down I find with Bus Eireann and no one else. Dublin Coach's buses seem new and clean by comparison.

Not trying to call You a lair or anything, but I have often seen the DC coaches broken down on the N/M 7, moreso than any CIE coach. I only travel daily from Newbridge to Dublin and back, so cannot comment on any further than Newbridge.

punisher5112 · 27-01-2018 10:04pm

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

I mainly had good experiences with them and most other bus services. The old unreliable buses that break down I find with Bus Eireann and no one else. Dublin Coach's buses seem new and clean by comparison.

What route you be on as all I see is clapped out scrap.

road_high · 27-01-2018 10:06pm

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

I mainly had good experiences with them and most other bus services. The old unreliable buses that break down I find with Bus Eireann and no one else. Dublin Coach's buses seem new and clean by comparison.

It's the opposite surely? BE have the nice new buses, Dublin Coach the scrap.

aaabbbb · 27-01-2018 10:10pm

WishUWereHere wrote:

Not trying to call You a lair or anything, but I have often seen the DC coaches broken down on the N/M 7, moreso than any CIE coach. I only travel daily from Newbridge to Dublin and back, so cannot comment on any further than Newbridge.

Same, I often see them broken down just after the M1 off ramp from the airport towards the M50/City Centre.

WishUWereHere · 27-01-2018 10:11pm

road_high wrote: »

Certain routes (like Belfast) get the new ones. The Waterford/Kilkenny route mainly gets the old slop!

Think so? You should see the s/crap bangers they use on the Dublin Airport to Portlaoise route.

devnull · 27-01-2018 10:18pm

road_high wrote: »

It's the opposite surely? BE have the nice new buses, Dublin Coach the scrap.

Last year Dublin Coach ordered 5 new Mercedes Coaches which were originally said to be earmarked to replace some of the older coaches in their fleet.

What they did instead was launched a new Belfast route with the 5 coaches to start up what is pretty much a bus war with Aircoach on the corridor leaving at pretty much the same time as Aircoach at either end with ultra cheap ticket prices for a number of months and many promotions.

Meanwhile the passengers on the other routes had to put up with almost 30 vehicles dating back from 2004/2005 that were previously with Aircoach and Stagecoach and had worked hard lives with their former operator.

boardsuser1 · 27-01-2018 10:21pm

Out of interest, there was a Vanhool overdecker in Cork last week, while i couldn't see it up close, it looked like one of the 09 batch.

A big change from jaded Setra's.

punisher5112 · 27-01-2018 10:22pm

devnull wrote: »

Last year Dublin Coach ordered 5 new Mercedes Coaches which were originally said to be earmarked to replace some of the older coaches in their fleet.

What they did instead was launched a new Belfast route with the 5 coaches to start up what is pretty much a bus war with Aircoach on the corridor leaving at pretty much the same time as Aircoach at either end with ultra cheap ticket prices for a number of months and many promotions.

Meanwhile the passengers on the other routes had to put up with almost 30 vehicles dating back from 2004/2005 that were previously with Aircoach and Stagecoach and had worked hard lives with their former operator.

I wouldn't have much faith in the king long from 2014 either.

They took in some 2009 vanhool double deckers which look well.

road_high · 27-01-2018 10:23pm

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Think so? You should see the s/crap bangers they use on the Dublin Airport to Portlaoise route.

I assume same ones, Setras as KK/Waterford route then? Or do you mean the double deckers?

road_high · 27-01-2018 10:24pm

devnull wrote: »

Last year Dublin Coach ordered 5 new Mercedes Coaches which were originally said to be earmarked to replace some of the older coaches in their fleet.

What they did instead was launched a new Belfast route with the 5 coaches to start up what is pretty much a bus war with Aircoach on the corridor leaving at pretty much the same time as Aircoach at either end with ultra cheap ticket prices for a number of months and many promotions.

Meanwhile the passengers on the other routes had to put up with almost 30 vehicles dating back from 2004/2005 that were previously with Aircoach and Stagecoach and had worked hard lives with their former operator.

I'd imagine 5 buses is a drop in the ocean compared to what they need to replace the lot!

devnull · 27-01-2018 10:28pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

I wouldn't have much faith in the king long from 2014 either.

They took in some 2009 vanhool double deckers which look well.

Yeah - they took some 2009 Vanhools from the same place as they took the 2004 Neoplans from - Stagecoach / Oxford Tube so I'd say those vehicles will be better than what they are replacing, however they too would have had hard lives before they came to Dublin Coach.

punisher5112 · 27-01-2018 10:32pm

devnull wrote: »

Yeah - they took some 2009 Vanhools from the same place as they took the 2004 Neoplans from - Stagecoach / Oxford Tube so I'd say those vehicles will be better than what they are replacing, however they too would have had hard lives before they came to Dublin Coach.

Hard lives in sure.

They do some hell of a lot of driving in the UK.

devnull · 27-01-2018 10:32pm

road_high wrote: »

I'd imagine 5 buses is a drop in the ocean compared to what they need to replace the lot!

I wouldn't be at all surprised if they ended up on the Belfast route to replace the vehicles dating from 2016 and 2017 on that route or used for another new route.

I hope I'm wrong however but I get the impression that on the other routes where Dublin Coach don't have intense competition they feel they can just get away with running an old fleet.

WishUWereHere · 28-01-2018 11:40am

road_high wrote: »

I assume same ones, Setras as KK/Waterford route then? Or do you mean the double deckers?

Actually seen both versions broken down over the last few years R_H.

On another note is there any responsibility on DC if they cause someone to miss a flight? Their route 726 is totally modelled on Portlaoise to DA.

belfast stephen · 28-01-2018 12:08pm

Aircoach are putting new coaches on the 705x Belfast route anytime now so i wonder will DC put the 181 Reg coaches on the M1 route

myshirt · 28-01-2018 12:12pm

belfast stephen wrote: »

Aircoach are putting new coaches on the 705x Belfast route anytime now so i wonder will DC put the 181 Reg coaches on the M1 route

Of course they will. Why would you expect otherwise?

devnull · 28-01-2018 12:17pm

I hope they don't though because there's no need to replace 2017 coaches on that route with 2018 coaches, especially when they are exactly the same spec.

There is however a need to give there long suffering customers on the other route something newer rather than stick two fingers up to them once again.

That's why I hope Dublin Coach don't win the battle on the Belfast route - will they neglect this route too when they fight off the competition in favour of the next big thing?

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