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The idiots behind sulky racing

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  • #32
    DrumSteve
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    animaal wrote: »
    Sulky racing is deserving of attention from the state. But the real danger and damage was caused by the motor procession around it. Those guys were purposely running traffic off the road, with no concern for anybody else's safety. They should lose their licenses for good, and see the inside of a cell. Ethnic background has nothing to do with it.

    I'll be interested to see whether or not there are court cases arising from this, and what the outcome is. But I won't be surprised if the state just shrugs its shoulders and says "what can we do?".

    Somehow I don’t think taking their ”licences” off them will make much of a difference.


  • #33
    [Deleted User]
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    NIMAN wrote: »
    Talk to Joe.

    I doubt Joe is likely to want a load of traveller bashing on the show?


  • #34
    Wheety
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,522 ✭✭✭Wheety


    animaal wrote: »
    They should lose their licenses for good, and see the inside of a cell.

    I would be very surprised if they had licenses.
    seachto7 wrote: »
    The people giving out about the people giving out about sulky racers have most likely never had to deal with these apes on a daily basis outside of photo opps or placard waving outside Lenister house.
    If they like them so much, have them race up and down their roads outside their houses.
    Who was doing this?


  • #35
    animaal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 815 ✭✭✭animaal


    Topgear on Dave wrote: »
    I doubt Joe is likely to want a load of traveller bashing on the show?

    You know what's just as bad as traveller bashing? Brushing dangerous criminal behaviour under the carpet just because the perpetrators are travellers. There's a happy medium somewhere in the middle.


  • #36
    whisky_galore
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    Hardly surprising.

    They push the boundaries time after time and get away with it.


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  • #37
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
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    Sunny Fresh Power wrote: »
    Nobody's seriously saying that. We just can't say much more.

    Plenty of people are saying that: anyone who indulges in this activity should be arrested and trie for public endangerment as well as any other crimes committed along the way regardless of their background or cultural beliefs - what more needs to be said, exactly? Or are you hinting at the unfairness of not boards.ie not allowing you to be bigoted?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #38
    c.p.w.g.w
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    Boy (12) killed when thrown under truck in sulky car accident.

    Sorry, but ballcocks to it being their or anyone's culture, they are dangerous and should not be on a public road.

    First Darwin Award of 2018


  • #39
    phelant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭phelant


    Odyssey 2005 wrote: »
    Gardaí attended the scene but it is not clear what action was taken.

    I think we annknow what action was taken...NONE.

    Wrong, the assistant commission has advised that we take the sensible approach of lodging a complaint with the individuals in question while we are in the local markets trying to identify our property ;)


  • #40
    Chrongen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭Chrongen


    BillyBobBS wrote: »
    Everyone wants to say what they really think of these "people" but we all know we'd be banned if we told it like it was.

    Personally I would like to see the knobheads responsible for this prosecuted and punished for their reckless disregard for the law and other peoples' safety.

    Do you have something more to add when you refer to these "people"? Why did you put people in quotation marks? Is there something ulterior in your post?


  • #41
    JustJoe7240
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    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    First Darwin Award of 2018

    Harsh on an 11 year old,

    And I'm not pro pikey


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  • #42
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,026 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    Boy (12) killed when thrown under truck in sulky car accident.

    Sorry, but ballcocks to it being their or anyone's culture, they are dangerous and should not be on a public road.

    "Inquest jury recommends introduction of laws to regulate sulky use after Dublin incident "

    Ehm, 'ban' is the word you're looking for, not 'regulate'.

    As if disorganised racing on a public road not closed for the purposes of a race with stewards, etc. is a normal thing... that's before we even look at animal welfare.


  • #43
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,742 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    animaal wrote: »
    Sulky racing is deserving of attention from the state. But the real danger and damage was caused by the motor procession around it. Those guys were purposely running traffic off the road, with no concern for anybody else's safety. They should lose their licenses for good, and see the inside of a cell. Ethnic background has nothing to do with it.

    I'll be interested to see whether or not there are court cases arising from this, and what the outcome is. But I won't be surprised if the state just shrugs its shoulders and says "what can we do?".

    lol

    as if they have licences


  • #44
    NIMAN
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    whisky_galore wrote: »
    Hardly surprising.

    They push the boundaries time after time and get away with it.

    These folk don't have boundaries.
    They can do as they please.


  • #45
    irishproduce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    Odyssey 2005 wrote: »
    Gardaí attended the scene but it is not clear what action was taken.

    I think we annknow what action was taken...NONE.

    To be fair to Gardai, there are no relevant laws to prosecute in this area.
    Sulky racing is not illegal. Guards would have to go after some other action of those involved.


  • #46
    c.p.w.g.w
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    joecass123 wrote: »
    Harsh on an 11 year old,

    And I'm not pro pikey

    Sulky racing poses a danger a everyone who uses the road, drivers, pedestrian's, cyclists and the person on the sulky...Should be illegal


  • #47
    lawred2
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    joecass123 wrote: »
    Harsh on an 11 year old,

    And I'm not pro pikey

    you think a 12 year old lad doesn't have a mind of his own?


  • #48
    Mutant z
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    Remember its their culture we cant be telling them off for breaking the law now can we.


  • #49
    hawkelady
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    Chrongen wrote: »
    BillyBobBS wrote: »
    Everyone wants to say what they really think of these "people" but we all know we'd be banned if we told it like it was.

    Personally I would like to see the knobheads responsible for this prosecuted and punished for their reckless disregard for the law and other peoples' safety.



    Do you have something more to add when you refer to these "people"? Why did you put people in quotation marks? Is there something ulterior in your post?


    You know exactly what he means!! You are trying to come off as a do-gooder here... every single person on this thread knows what type of sub human these " people" are. Tool robbing, conning the elderly , no regard for law whatsoever but let's just brush that all under the carpet cause it's their culture. Give over


  • #50
    El Vino
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 388 ✭✭El Vino


    I live in an area of England with plenty of Irish Travellers, many with horses, recently they moved onto a site I manage and we had the usual mess to clean up after they left. I have never seen them use sulkys on the public roads though, don't know if laws are different or attitudes of police. There must be some laws the Guards can use.


  • #51
    El Vino
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 388 ✭✭El Vino


    I live in an area of England with plenty of Irish Travellers, many with horses, recently they moved onto a site I manage and we had the usual mess to clean up after they left. I have never seen them use sulkys on the public roads though, don't know if laws are different or attitudes of police. There must be some laws the Guards can use.


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  • #52
    El Vino
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 388 ✭✭El Vino


    I live in an area of England with plenty of Irish Travellers, many with horses, recently they moved onto a site I manage and we had the usual mess to clean up after they left. I have never seen them use sulkys on the public roads though, don't know if laws are different or attitudes of police. There must be some laws the Guards can use.


  • #53
    El Vino
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 388 ✭✭El Vino


    I live in an area of England with plenty of Irish Travellers, many with horses, recently they moved onto a site I manage and we had the usual mess to clean up after they left. I have never seen them use sulkys on the public roads though, don't know if laws are different or attitudes of police. There must be some laws the Guards can use.


  • #54
    the dark phantom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 772 ✭✭✭the dark phantom


    Sulkie racing is an honorable ancient tradition carried out by fearless riders on well trained and well treated horses, From deep in the mists of history came the hardest and most lawless of enriching cultural folk. We should be happy to share our land with such people, We should learn from our betters.


  • #55
    Foxhound38
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    It's an ancient expression of ethnic nomadic culture which we all must now tolerate and indeed applaud... boss.


  • #56
    Klinkhammer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 148 ✭✭Klinkhammer


    RTE had Brian O'Connell in Limerick to talk to people involved in sulky racing last week. None of them were travellers.

    The debate following the interviews was between Matty McGrath and a representative from Pavee Point though.

    Anyway Matty wants it banned so he might be the one to contact.

    Here's a link to the interview

    https://player.fm/series/rt-today-with-sean-orourke/should-sulky-racing-be-banned-in-ireland


  • #57
    DrumSteve
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    lawred2 wrote: »
    you think a 12 year old lad doesn't have a mind of his own?

    That poor kid was not racing a sulky when that happened.


  • #58
    dubstar69
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5 ✭dubstar69


    Let's face it, nothing will ever change regarding these people. Unless their so called culture and itinerant bands are broken up with force, they'll continue to do as they please on this island. The Garda are afraid of them.


  • #59
    Wheety
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    irishproduce wrote: »
    To be fair to Gardai, there are no relevant laws to prosecute in this area.
    Sulky racing is not illegal. Guards would have to go after some other action of those involved.

    Maybe dangerous driving seeing as they had 2 banks of vehicles driving in a V formation taking up the whole road? That's why the pregnant woman had to take evasive action.


  • #60
    Red_Wake
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    Nothing on RTE - can't be having the masses outraged against our state subsidised criminals/


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  • #61
    [Deleted User]
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    the dark phantom wrote: »
    Sulkie racing is an honorable ancient tradition carried out by fearless riders on well trained and well treated horses, From deep in the mists of history came the hardest and most lawless of enriching cultural folk. We should be happy to share our land with such people, We should learn from our betters.

    Know fellows involved in sulky racing (they own stables for point to point horses). It's far from unique to travellers, indeed they admit travellers treat their horses a lot better than others simply because they are such a good source of income for them.

    The idea that sulky racing should be banned is silly stuff. But obviously road traffic laws should be enforced.


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