'13 children held captive in their California home'

FTA69 · 17-01-2018 10:28AM

RDM_83 again wrote: »

Have you lived in the USA because if your making that statement about the UK/Ireland you don't have a clue as it's way way off.

It's generally harmless (potentially clueless) hippy dippy types who are about as far from the fundamentalist Christian bogeyman you can get.

Oh God yeah, the West Cork types with the English accents and hemp jumpers.

Billy86 · 17-01-2018 11:02AM

BattleCorp wrote: »

I've looked at the family's FB page and this family wasn't really like the Fritzls. They weren't locked up 24/7. Occasionally they were out and about in public places in some of the pics. They had plenty of opportunities to run away. The parents must have had mad control over them.

If I'm correct that Jaycee Lee Dugard girl who popped up not too long after the Fritzl's having being missing for 10+ years was similarly out and about in public with the guy who had her captive (and who trailed the Google Maps camera for quite a bit after the passed his house if you search for it!!).

Bargain_Hound · 17-01-2018 11:11AM

Horrific story. How are the children (and adults) likely to be cared for going forward?

Malayalam · 17-01-2018 02:04PM

Gosh, the casual and repeated conflation of home schooling with these montrous sadists is a bit worrisome :rolleyes:

Avatar MIA · 17-01-2018 02:57PM

_Dara_ wrote: »

Well, I dunno, my husband's granny had her last child at 46! :eek: But yeah, it's a bit unlikely.

Funnily enough, a UK celebrity was on the front page of the RTE website yesterday, reporting she was weeping for joy at her pregnancy, aged 46. Meant to post yesterday, but too lazy

El Weirdo · 17-01-2018 03:53PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Problem is privacy laws, and if you get it wrong, you are vilified, so most people just stay schtum. Unless they have visible evidence of something, and even then it is very difficult to make a complaint.

I don't know what the solution is. But with all this Data Protection and privacy stuff it is no doubt difficult to raise a suspicion.

How in the name of God are you blaming privacy laws and data protection for stopping people from raising suspicions?

Lirange · 17-01-2018 07:33PM

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

They don't look at all nuts.

TeaBagMania · 17-01-2018 07:41PM

spot on

up for anything · 17-01-2018 09:39PM

Lollipops23 wrote: »

it's pretty unlikely the ma gave birth at 46....

wakka12 wrote: »

Youngest was two I believe and the mother is like late forties so unless they went and got IVF to get another baby to chain to the bed posts then that seems quite likely

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

Not normally one to speculate but I've an awfully sick feeling that at least one of the younger children will turn out to be a child of the older ones and their father

46 is not that old to be giving birth. Do you not realise that menopause doesn't start at 40 unless it's early? In my family menopause doesn't start till around 52 so no problem in churning out a few in the mid forties if wanted.

Candie wrote: »

Home schooling is a red flag. 90% + of homeschoolers are fundamental religious types who are often completely paranoid about their kids coming in contact with anything that might contradict their world view.

I think you should amend your views of home education maybe to say that in the US it's a red flag. My sister home schooled in Ireland and out of the 100 or so families in her particular geographical home ed network not one family was a fundamental religious type. In fact, most were not religious at all and that was one of the reasons that some chose to home school.

whoopsadoodles · 17-01-2018 10:32PM

up for anything wrote: »

46 is not that old to be giving birth. Do you not realise that menopause doesn't start at 40 unless it's early? In my family menopause doesn't start till around 52 so no problem in churning out a few in the mid forties if wanted.

Why are you quoting me?

think you should amend your views of home education maybe to say that in the US it's a red flag.

It's a thread about a case in the US

up for anything · 18-01-2018 12:04AM

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

Why are you quoting me?

It's a thread about a case in the US

Apologies in the first instance. I read the posts in no particular order and in my head had yours grouped with the ancient auld biddies giving birth set. My mistake.

As for it being a thread about being a case in the US, it's the same generalised opinion on home schooling that seems to be offered whenever home education is mentioned along with 'kids that are home schooled are awkward with people and unable to socialise properly'. In this instance I think the imprisonment was there always and the home schooling/school the father set up was to cover what him an his dearly beloved wife were doing. I very much doubt that the memorising of long passages of the bible were anything other than punishment or a way of occupying the captives to stop them fomenting rebellion rather than even a passing attempt at home schooling

JP Liz V1 · 18-01-2018 01:27PM

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

They don't look at all nuts.

The father reminds me of

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wakka12 · 19-01-2018 04:54PM

Apparently several of the children hadn't been allowed out since such a young age that many of them didn't even know what a police officer was when they were brought to the station

xzanti · 19-01-2018 06:32PM

You'd have to wonder, who was the first of the two to say "you know what we should do, we should tie up the kids".

One person being that sick in the head I can kind of 'get'. But both of them?

Absolutely hideous the whole thing.

24-02-2019 11:30AM

Latest on this - Turpin captivity case: California parents admit torture

As the BBC website scratched out the faces of the children, I decided to google to see what they looked like. A Google Images search directed me to this page for a photo.

Well, that's a twist; it seems Turpin and his wife are a "Christian" family and the writer believes 'It is a parent’s job, above all except teaching the love of God, to protect and ensure that their children are fit to reach heaven.' and that the state "interfering" in this case to take the children from the Turpins is another example of "persecution of Christians". Now, I'm much more interested in the Landover Baptist Church! (disappointment)

The Wikipedia article on this case is now much more detailed. It seems that two of the children escaped, and one returned out of fear. A 17-year-old girl kept running, however, and found police officers and alerted them. David Turpin was a computer engineer on about $140,000 per year and, more interestingly, many of the children apparently kept "hundreds of journals" which were confiscated and these are "expected to provide unique insights into the experiences of victims of torture and long-term captivity." They are both expected to be sentenced on 19 April 2019.

Turpin case

Billy86 · 24-02-2019 06:17PM

The picture with their ages is f***king jarring, especially the two young boys fully grown men!? :eek:

Sure some people just never quite develop an adult body, but that picture has me almost speechless.

erica74 · 24-02-2019 06:28PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Latest on this - Turpin captivity case: California parents admit torture

As the BBC website scratched out the faces of the children, I decided to google to see what they looked like. A Google Images search directed me to this page for a photo.

Holy shit those pictures and the comments in that thread are absolutely terrifying! These people think this is an acceptable way to treat children?! Because of god or some such nonsense?! It's scary to think there could be other households with children kept in similar conditions because of god.

Billy86 · 24-02-2019 06:47PM

erica74 wrote: »

Holy shit those pictures and the comments in that thread are absolutely terrifying! These people think this is an acceptable way to treat children?! Because of god or some such nonsense?! It's scary to think there could be other households with children kept in similar conditions because of god.

It's a parody forum, but it's not far off the truth, some parts of the US are as fundamentalist as parts of the middle East,just with a different religion.

JupiterKid · 24-02-2019 11:41PM

This is just crazy and is another example that religion in its extreme forms is abusive and dangerous.

I hope that couple are jailed for a very long time.

'13 children held captive in their California home'

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