"Friends was racist and sexist"

splinter65 · 15-01-2018 09:04PM

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

So say Millenials and SJWs.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/friends-netflix-sexist-racist-transphobic-problematic-millenials-watch-a8154626.html

https://twitter.com/samrboland/status/952957719757099008

What we need to do is create some kind of a commune some where ( like Jonestown?)and all the snowflakes that find living with all the rest of us so AWFUL can go and live there in politically correct heaven.

mcfitness20 · 15-01-2018 09:07PM

i don't know if friends is racist but they are definitely guilty of fat shamin (monicas prom dance)

splinter65 · 15-01-2018 09:13PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Neither All In The Family, Till Death Do Us Part, Love Thy Neighbour, Fawlty Towers etc etc were racist. They just all merely had racist characters and without fail the joke was on THEM. People laughed AT the Major in FT. People laughed AT Alf Garnett etc. They never laughed with them. These were all portrayed as bigots which warranted being laughed at. Same with Mr Roper's sexism/homophobia in Three's Company. He's not shown in a good light for it and is instead rightfully subjected to ridicule and made funny of in almost all shows.

When people label such shows as racist and homophobic it just really shows that they missed the point.

Alf Garnett’s ( racist misogynistic homophobic royalist pompous bigoted jingoistic) pathological hatred of his left wing liberal socialist Labour voting insufferably lazy scouse git son in law (played by Tony Blair’s real life FIL) was years ahead of his time.

dr.fuzzenstein · 15-01-2018 10:19PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

The episode where Bud is being abused by a teacher and Al is gatecrashing children's birthday parties is a all time classic of the sit come genre.
The more you think about it, is humour gradually being wiped out ?

Actually, if you watch MWC you will notice Al complaining about political correctness a lot.
He truly was a visionary.

Dank Janniels · 15-01-2018 10:31PM

Today Friends, tomorrow Blazin Saddles....

DEFTLEFTHAND · 15-01-2018 11:24PM

Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

If you watched Friends when it first came out then you aren’t a millennial. It’s science.

Millenial are the generation after X. Birtdates from 1982 to late 90s.

Gen Z are the new geneation of kids born in the 00s.

mcfitness20 · 15-01-2018 11:32PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Millenial are the generation after X. Birtdates from 1982 to late 90s.

Gen Z are the new geneation of kids born in the 00s.

generation zyklon

wakka12 · 15-01-2018 11:32PM

No it wasn't. There may have been some jokes we wouldn't consider as acceptable today but friends is exactly how general society's attitude was to ethnic minorities/women/lgbt in the 90's, which wasn't that bad at all but just less politically correct than todays.

15-01-2018 11:35PM

Youd swear the ones complaining, never made/laughed at a crude/non pc joke or used slang/bad terms at all

anewme · 15-01-2018 11:41PM

I don't know about racist or sexist but it was crap. Horrible acting, bad one dimensional characters who were deeply unlikeable and a **** soundtrack.

At the grand old age of 48, I'm proud to admit I've never watched Top Gun, dirty Dancing or endured a single episode of friends.

Atoms for Peace · 15-01-2018 11:42PM

The x-files was obviously xenophobic.

Greyfox · 15-01-2018 11:48PM

brain dead idiots that dont realise society changes with time, its incredibly depressing having what a muppet says online gets classed as news. Friends is one if the best tv shows ever but I'm baffled how it's on Netflix, like the simpsons it's literally never off the tv so I don't know how there's people out there that enjoy good comedy and haven't seen every episode already

Greyfox · 16-01-2018 12:01AM

anewme wrote: »

I don't know about racist or sexist but it was crap. Horrible acting, bad one dimensional characters who were deeply unlikeable... or endured a single episode of friends.

How can you make such a judgement if you haven't even watched 1 episode? The reason each episode has been on tv a million times is because there such a likable group and the comedy writing was super sharp, superb comedy like friends, father ted and only fools and horses are sadly a thing of the past

mcfitness20 · 16-01-2018 12:03AM

omg has anyone seen jennifer anniston since she got the botox
why??????

PropJoe10 · 16-01-2018 12:06AM

Typical of the overly PC bull**** that goes on in modern society. Why can't people just live their lives as they see fit and stop being offended by every little f**king thing?

It's mind numbingly stupid and really boring at this stage.

Irish Guitarist · 16-01-2018 12:07AM

There have always been people whining about nothing but years ago they would have to go to the trouble of phoning up a television station or writing someone a letter which took a little bit of effort. Now any idiot can just log into Twitter and tweet their opinion at the makers of a television program. This has more to do with modern technology and how it's easier than ever to get your opinion listened to than it has to do with any age group.

Unfortunately television stations do pay attention to this. Instead of letting writers write the story they want to they now have to pander to these people. You can't have too many white people and there has to be 'diversity'.

If Friends were made today at least one of the characters would most likely have to be black.

wakka12 · 16-01-2018 12:08AM

mcfitness20 wrote: »

omg has anyone seen jennifer anniston since she got the botox
why??????

Well when female celebrities are mercilessly ridiculed for ageing naturally then I can see why so many resort to unnatural prevention methods

lmimmfn · 16-01-2018 12:13AM

I think the Cosby show was very racist, not a single white person in the lead cast!!!!!

Ulysses Gaze · 16-01-2018 12:16AM

mcfitness20 wrote: »

generation zyklon

Generation Zombie

Mutant z · 16-01-2018 12:21AM

Can these sjws please fu'ck off and stop bothering the rest of us with their stupid nonsense.

Tea Shock · 16-01-2018 12:28AM

Its not the people of social media being offended by everything that's the problem. It's the media. They have given importance to any gob****e. In this case it's independent.co.uk but far far too may of them are at it. If 5 people out of a thousand say something is offensive, it's a story. It's like, seen several articles over the last 3 days saying Liam Neeson is under fire for Late Late Show speech about the Hollywood 'Me too' campaign being a witch hunt....but who is he under fire from? Nobody seems to have anything to say about it other than journalists themselves. It's the media creating a story that doesn't exist - and pushing it until it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy! Same with the increasingly boring hysteria every time Trump utters a word or a tweet. It's the media...and my God they are boring!

anewme · 16-01-2018 12:33AM

Greyfox wrote: »

How can you make such a judgement if you haven't even watched 1 episode? The reason each episode has been on tv a million times is because there such a likable group and the comedy writing was super sharp, superb comedy like friends, father ted and only fools and horses are sadly a thing of the past

To put friends in the same category as Father Ted Or only fools is sacrilege.

Just not in the same league.

The Legend Of Kira · 16-01-2018 12:36AM

When Friends started on Tv in the 1990s, I have to admit Im one of the few people who never watched a single episode of the show while it would of been at its peak; that said given the fuss & that some people are playing the race card about the show, Im gonna watch a few episodes from the first season of Friends of Netflix to see WTF the fuss some are making is all about .

the_pen_turner · 16-01-2018 12:37AM

anewme wrote: »

To put friends in the same category as Father Ted Or only fools is sacrilege.

Just not in the same league.

its pretty damb close

Ave Sodalis · 16-01-2018 12:43AM

Tea Shock wrote:

Its not the people of social media being offended by everything that's the problem. It's the media. They have given importance to any gob****e. In this case it's independent.co.uk but far far too may of them are at it. If 5 people out of a thousand say something is offensive, it's a story. It's like, seen several articles over the last 3 days saying Liam Neeson is under fire for Late Late Show speech about the Hollywood 'Me too' campaign being a witch hunt....but who is he under fire from? Nobody seems to have anything to say about it other than journalists themselves. It's the media creating a story that doesn't exist - and pushing it until it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy! Same with the increasingly boring hysteria every time Trump utters a word or a tweet. It's the media...and my God they are boring!

This is exactly what's happening I think. There are numerous articles around from all different sources claiming "People are outraged by this", or "The celeb faces massive backlash for saying that thing" but when you click into the article, there's one or two Twitter messages that the journalists probably spent a month trying to find.

EDIT: Just after scrolling through my Facebook feed and Unilad have an article about how Primark (that's Penneys to you and I) are facing backlash with their children's outfits, and that people are saying it's sexualising babies. Click into the article and lo and behold, it's one person. They wrote an entire article on one unknown person's opinion and tried to pass it off as the general consensus...

anewme · 16-01-2018 12:44AM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

its pretty damb close

Nope, friends is a boring boring cliche with **** one dimensional unlikeable characters trying too hard whereas the other two are timeless.

big difference in budget, delivery, talent and comedy.

the_pen_turner · 16-01-2018 12:49AM

are you really qualified to make such claims given that you proclaim to have never watched it. friends is a classic.
personally I don't rate father ted and only fools and horses as in the top category like porridge , at your service etc. too predictable
the fact that friends has lasted this long on tv and has a serious following among people who wernt even born when it was on.shows how good it is

anewme · 16-01-2018 12:59AM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

are you really qualified to make such claims given that you proclaim to have never watched it. friends is a classic.
personally I don't rate father ted and only fools and horses as in the top category like porridge , at your service etc. too predictable
the fact that friends has lasted this long on tv and has a serious following among people who wernt even born when it was on.shows how good it is

I tried to watch it but could not endure one full episode.

Did not connect with it at all. It has zero personality.

That’s enough for me.

father Ted is a classic, so is only fools, but friends is embarrassingly bad.

Each to their own but I’m not sure how many people rate it now, many of my friends who watched it back in the day would sleep through it now.

It has not stood the test of time.

the_pen_turner · 16-01-2018 01:03AM

would I record it to watch later no
would I buy the box set . probably not
would I make a mental note to tune in at 7 to watch it . no
but if there wasn't a program I really wanted to watch on or I had 30min free I would put it on . mostly because I can pop in and out of it and keep up , and I'm guaranteed a good show.

_Dara_ · 16-01-2018 01:04AM

I read a review of the episode where Chandler finds out that many people assume he is gay. The review site is one I really like but the writer in question seems to be quite sensitive to perceived homophobia. He said that Chandler's aversion to being thought of as gay amounted to "gay panic". To me, I read it that Chandler - as a straight male - was worried that the apparently common assumption he was gay was ruining his chances with women he meets and likes. A totally reasonable stance to me.

He also seemed to think that making Susan a bit of a wagon was casting a gay character as a villain. Whereas I think it was a ballsy move on the part of the show to make her pretty unlikable.

"Friends was racist and sexist"

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