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"Friends was racist and sexist"

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    anna080 wrote: »
    Friends was bloody hilarious and anyone who thinks any different needs to go and shlte for themselves.

    Go commit your hate crimes somewhere else nark


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    I'm currently watching friends.

    I. Love. This show.

    Also....I'm technically a millennial.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭fergus1001


    Let's polish or monicles and smoke a cherute while we laugh at these milenial snow flakes, by god this brandy is top class


  • Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sam Boland is a very angry man.

    I love to see his reaction to On The Buses, Love Thy Neighbour, Curry And Chips, If There Weren't Any Black People We've Have To Invent Them, Man About The House, Don't Drink The Water, Till Death Us Do Part, the **** and wogs clip from Fawlty Towers, the bucket of tar scene from Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em.

    Comedies and dramas reflect the attitudes of the time. Only a f**king idiot like him thinks otherwise.







  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Baron Kurtz


    Definitely some weirdness between Ross and Monica.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    I'm calling bull**** on the tweet - not it's existence but the guy claiming "I knew from the beginning..."

    My bollocks he did, standards change with times. I don't think I've seen a single episode of Friends since it finished 15ish years back (...feeling old yet? :D ), but Ace Ventura is another that people have a go at in recent times when the fact is, humour and societal standards were different a quarter of a century ago, which is also when Friends first started (...if you weren't before I'll bet you are now! :pac: ).

    If we're going to have a go at them we might as well dip into the all time classics from the 70s or 40s and nitpick how horrible they are too. Sure for let's follow that line of reasoning for a second and apply it across the board to all standards - cinematically, Casablanca wasn't even shot in HD, and Citizen Kane didn't even bother to use colour, the cheap f***s. And we're supposed to see these as 'all time greats'!? They're trash.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    Just got a text to tell me I'm not a millennial. Dammit.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Jim Bob Scratcher


    Definitely some weirdness between Ross and Monica.

    The only weirdo is that Sam Boland fella


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Let's hope they never see Married with Children





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,795 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    what about something like home improvement or married with children. different times but totally unacceptable by todays standard. and hilarious as well.

    james jocye got there before me


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,320 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Sam Boland is a very angry man.

    I love to see his reaction to On The Buses, Love Thy Neighbour, Curry And Chips, If There Weren't Any Black People We've Have To Invent Them, Man About The House, Don't Drink The Water, Till Death Us Do Part, the **** and wogs clip from Fawlty Towers, the bucket of tar scene from Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em.

    Comedies and dramas reflect the attitudes of the time. Only a f**king idiot like him thinks otherwise.






    Thank you for planning my television for the night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭Rumpy Pumpy


    Just got a text to tell me I'm not a millennial. Dammit.

    If you watched Friends when it first came out then you aren’t a millennial. It’s science.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Might start a SJW blog, big money to be made. You can deduct every thing as racist


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,795 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    how will the inbetweeners be seen in 10 years time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭piplip87




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 148 ✭✭Klinkhammer


    This isn't anything new. People were calling for a boycott while it was still being filmed. Same with Seinfeld.

    Sitcoms are the lowest of the low as far as entertainment went back then anyway. We have ****e like the Karadashians and Made in Chelsea these days to knock them in to second lowest these days though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,711 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I'm sure if you look back at all comedy and sit coms from 10 to 20 years ago you will find all kind of. Stuff that is unacceptable today. We can't judge old stuff by today's standards
    siblers wrote:
    If Friends was racist and sexist so was pretty much every sitcom of the 90s
    it's valid to point out as that things have changed though. Sometimes it's surprising to see how much things have changed.
    It's such a shame that something like Blazing Saddle wouldn't be made today because they aren't PC, when they are legit some of the funniest movies I've ever seen.

    I keep hearing this a s a sort of conservative virtue signalling but i don't think it's true. Django unchained is a recent movie and the Samuel L Jackson character was a mostly a comedy character based on racism.
    JupiterKid wrote:
    This is a total load of rubbish. Friends was, if anything, socially progressive for its time (the 1990s). If you think Friends is bigoted, then you’ll just love many UK sitcoms from the 1970s.

    It was socially progressive for its time. I remember fox news talking about it as a typical NBC leftist conspiracy which condoned gays and other evils. It's also true that some of the themes wouldn't work today because culture has changed around them.

    There's an early Only Fools and Horses were Rodney and Del figure out they're in a gay bar and make a joke about 'backs to the wall' as they leave. That joke wouldn't work now because it's not culturally relevant anymore.

    My Mrs rewatched Friends recently so I say bits and pieces from the whole show. The absence of non white people was obvious. Not something to get upset about but it is interesting


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭Rumpy Pumpy


    Ross banged a black chick if I remember correctly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    Ross banged a black chick if I remember correctly.

    Only after Joey.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Thank god this precious little snowflake hasn't seen Married with Children



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    I'm currently watching friends.

    I. Love. This show.

    Also....I'm technically a millennial.


    I think its unfair to tar all millennials with the same brush, or to link them all with a rejection of that type of humour. Many of them are perfectly capable of enjoying a bit of sexist or racist humour the same as other generations. Its millennials that have made The Big Bang Theory the huge success it is, and with racism and homophobic humour being pretty much its stock joke, that would not be the case if there werent at least a major section of millennials who enjoy poking fun at minorities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Neither All In The Family, Till Death Do Us Part, Love Thy Neighbour, Fawlty Towers etc etc were racist. They just all merely had racist characters and without fail the joke was on THEM. People laughed AT the Major in FT. People laughed AT Alf Garnett etc. They never laughed with them. These were all portrayed as bigots which warranted being laughed at. Same with Mr Roper's sexism/homophobia in Three's Company. He's not shown in a good light for it and is instead rightfully subjected to ridicule and made funny of in almost all shows.

    When people label such shows as racist and homophobic it just really shows that they missed the point.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭darkdubh




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Thank god this precious little snowflake hasn't seen Married with Children

    The episode where Bud is being abused by a teacher and Al is gatecrashing children's birthday parties is a all time classic of the sit come genre.
    The more you think about it, is humour gradually being wiped out ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭Rumpy Pumpy


    Only after Joey.

    Always the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    fresh-prince-of-bel-air.jpg?w=700&h=393&crop=1

    :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭minikin


    They’ll be saying Georgie Burgess was a raper next.

    In fairness, Friends was guilty of compounding the mate-riarchy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,711 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    The episode where Bud is being abused by a teacher and Al is gatecrashing children's birthday parties is a all time classic of the sit come genre. The more you think about it, is humour gradually being wiped out ?


    Comedy changes. Things that were funny get phased out and new topics become funny. Comedy works on supply and demand.

    That episode was funny in its time and wouldn't really be funny now because the topic has changed meaning in the mean time. The comedy depends on what the topic means at the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,795 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    what about the film white chicks. 2 black guys dressing up as white teens.

    if it was the other way round it would be all over twitter


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  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    They should watch "Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia".

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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