"Friends was racist and sexist"

Alun · 15-01-2018 07:28PM

The whole of the 70s and much of the 80s was racist, sexist and homophobic.

Rjd2 · 15-01-2018 07:29PM

Pelvis wrote: »

Who the **** is Sam Boland are why is his opinion worth starting a thread over?

Agreed, quite easy to ignore to be fair, not exactly got Trump/Rowling level of followers does he.:p

I dunno really, one of those cases of manufactured outrage, a few randoms rewatched it and did not like and the Indy which is rubbish btw and BBC are using it for easy click and easier outrage.

Shouldn't lose sleep over it or write of entire generation over it.

It wasn't there fault that everyone loves raymond was popular, nobody perfect.:pac:

Ralf and Florian · 15-01-2018 07:31PM

Pelvis wrote: »

Who the **** is Sam Boland are why is his opinion worth starting a thread over?

The main focus of the thread is the Independent article.

King George VI · 15-01-2018 07:32PM

Pelvis wrote: »

Who the **** is Sam Boland are why is his opinion worth starting a thread over?

Never heard of him until now but judging by his Twitter page, he's a nobody, a loser and his opinion is worth less than nothing.

Mickeroo · 15-01-2018 07:33PM

I don't think Ace:Ventura pet detective would get made now because a few scenes would be pretty offensive towards transgender folks by today's standards (rightly so in fairness) but **** me if I don't still find it hilarious when "The Crying Game" kicks in and poor old Ace has a melt down.

Sometimes something is just a product of its time and that's all there is to it.

siblers · 15-01-2018 07:35PM

If Friends was racist and sexist so was pretty much every sitcom of the 90s

Ralf and Florian · 15-01-2018 07:35PM

Mickeroo wrote: »

I don't think Ace:Ventura pet detective would get made now because a few scenes would be pretty offensive towards transgender folks by today's standards (rightly so in fairness) but **** me if I don't still find it hilarious when "The Crying Game" kicks in and poor old Ace has a melt down.

Sometimes something is just a product of its time and that's all there is to it.

Unfortunately a lot of people don't see it that way. Its like they want to trawl back through decades of popular culture and remove what doesn't suit them.

Skedaddle · 15-01-2018 07:35PM

Friends kicked off almost 24 years ago and lots changed over that period. That's a quarter of a century ago almost!
It's a reflection of 1990s US culture, it's not a reflection of 2018.

Also it certainly wasn't homophobic, it, rather awkwardly, dealt with the subject of Ross' ex, her new lesbian relationship and having ay parents. It also dealt with a lot of other topics over that series.

You're talking about an era when many things we take for granted now were quite different then.

The only way I think you could describe the show as sexist was not one of the women had a sensible job. However, neither did Joey.

However, I think trying to apply 2018 social norms to the mid 1990s is not going to get you anywhere.

pjohnson · 15-01-2018 07:36PM

Fawlty Towers must be an absolute horror tv show for some!

The Backwards Man · 15-01-2018 07:36PM

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Gimp who goes out of his way to find offence in everything!

Reminds me of quite a few around these parts.

suicide_circus · 15-01-2018 07:36PM

Exhibit A: Ross Geller in blackface

Fanny Wank · 15-01-2018 07:36PM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

I'm sure if you look back at all comedy and sit coms from 10 to 20 years ago you will find all kind of. Stuff that is unacceptable today.
We can't judge old stuff by today's standards

It's mostly way better than the ****e peddled as TV today

grogi · 15-01-2018 07:37PM

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

So say Millenials and SJWs.

I'm a white educated heterosexual men approaching 40 - and I love Friends. But I see how many jokes were homophobic (take a whole episode 'The one with Joey's bag')...

This was different times and is a great show. But we move on, it wouldn't fly these days.

pjohnson · 15-01-2018 07:38PM

Fanny **** wrote: »

It's mostly way better than the ****e peddled as TV today

Jesus fúcking christ this username will trigger a lot of eejits.

pjohnson · 15-01-2018 07:40PM

Fanny **** wrote: »

It's mostly way better than the ****e peddled as TV today

The people offended over this probably hashtag the shíte out of "quality" comedy from Alison Spittle's Amazing TV Show.

King George VI · 15-01-2018 07:41PM

Mickeroo wrote: »

I don't think Ace:Ventura pet detective would get made now because a few scenes would be pretty offensive towards transgender folks by today's standards (rightly so in fairness) but **** me if I don't still find it hilarious when "The Crying Game" kicks in and poor old Ace has a melt down.

Sometimes something is just a product of its time and that's all there is to it.

It's such a shame that something like Blazing Saddle wouldn't be made today because they aren't PC, when they are legit some of the funniest movies I've ever seen.

suicide_circus · 15-01-2018 07:43PM

The tyrannous new morality is every bit as oppressive as the old

eviltwin · 15-01-2018 07:44PM

Remember the days when if a TV show wasn't to your taste you didn't watch it?

Nowadays it seems to be the thing to watch every episode for maximum outrage.

yerwanthere123 · 15-01-2018 07:47PM

It is literally a few people on Twitter who've said this, can be safely ignored.

chopperbyrne · 15-01-2018 07:47PM

Aren't millennials people who were becoming adults around the turn of the millennium, not people born around that time?

wexandproud · 15-01-2018 07:49PM

darkdubh wrote: »

Jaysus. Hope they never get to see Till Death Us Do Part. On second thoughts I hope they do.

http://www.nme.com/news/tv/friends-criticised-sexist-homophobic-netflix-2219739

was thinking the same thing myself , ''In sickness and in health'' was funny as well and i still watch him sometimes on utube , their will be uproar if some of the easy offended watch it now that you've brought it up. The clip where his wife has died and he is arguing with the shop owner about her unpaid bill is great

WoollyRedHat · 15-01-2018 07:50PM

So no one told you life was gonna be this way
Your job's a joke, you're broke, your love life's D.O.A.
It's like you're always stuck in second gear
When it hasn't been your day, your week, your month, or even your year..

Mickeroo · 15-01-2018 07:51PM

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Aren't millennials people who were becoming adults around the turn of the millennium, not people born around that time?

Yarp

nullzero · 15-01-2018 07:53PM

How do these people keep up with all the things they need to remember to be offended by?

Elemonator · 15-01-2018 07:54PM

I probably qualify as a millennial and I certainly don't buy into this muck.

JupiterKid · 15-01-2018 07:55PM

This is a total load of rubbish. Friends was, if anything, socially progressive for its time (the 1990s). If you think Friends is bigoted, then you’ll just love many UK sitcoms from the 1970s.:rolleyes:

nullzero · 15-01-2018 07:56PM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

So no one told you life was gonna be this way
Your job's a joke, you're broke, your love life's D.O.A.
It's like you're always stuck in second gear
When it hasn't been your day, your week, your month, or even your year..

... But, this will offend you..
When the jokes start to pour...
Sexist and racist too...
Like you've heard this before...
This will offend you...
Because it doesn't take much tooooooo...

retro:electro · 15-01-2018 07:58PM

Friends was bloody hilarious and anyone who thinks any different needs to go and shlte for themselves.

bnt · 15-01-2018 07:59PM

If you thought Friends was bigoted, you might not have heard of All In The Family. Here's the man of the house, Archie Bunker, trying to explain segregation ... to Sammy Davis Jr.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZYPSyfsulg

Then there's this bit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOnTZipv03M

darkdubh · 15-01-2018 08:01PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1dakp4FT0w

"Friends was racist and sexist"

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