Non-Nationals attacking Taxi drivers in West Dublin

Beechwoodspark · 11-01-2018 11:14PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

OK... First of all it was neither dangerous or intimidating and no worse than a white mischievous teenager

So..

jumping on the bonnets of cars in traffic and refusing to move is not dangerous or intimidating?

Standing on the road in busy traffic hoping to provoke some sort of reaction by refusing to move and delaying all the traffic is not dangerous or intimidating?

You are only fooling yourself at this stage.

JohnMc1 · 11-01-2018 11:30PM

wush06 wrote: »

It’s been reported today that they are black teenagers.

The joys of the "New Irish". Just remember folks. Diversity is our Strength. As told to us by people who live in completely homogeneous neighborhoods with high walls and personal security.

Dr Brown · 12-01-2018 03:23AM

JohnMc1 wrote: »

The joys of the "New Irish". Just remember folks. Diversity is our Strength. As told to us by people who live in completely homogeneous neighborhoods with high walls and personal security.

Just like the head of Irish Refugee Council who lives in one of the most expensive parts of Dublin were you will find few if any Non-Nationals.

It seems that "Diversity" is only for the little people.

pilly · 12-01-2018 03:30AM

JohnMc1 wrote:

The joys of the "New Irish". Just remember folks. Diversity is our Strength. As told to us by people who live in completely homogeneous neighborhoods with high walls and personal security.

Is that you Oscar?

RustyNut · 12-01-2018 03:33AM

Dr Brown wrote: »

Just like the head of Irish Refugee Council who lives in one of the most expensive parts of Dublin were you will find few if any Non-Nationals.

It seems that "Diversity" is only for the little people.

And racial purity is for the..........

12-01-2018 09:24AM

Dr Brown wrote: »

Just like the head of Irish Refugee Council who lives in one of the most expensive parts of Dublin were you will find few if any Non-Nationals.

It seems that "Diversity" is only for the little people.

Which part of Dublin is that?

Brian? · 12-01-2018 10:46AM

Hilly Bill wrote: »

It would still be black though.

So what?

Brian? · 12-01-2018 10:50AM

JohnMc1 wrote: »

The joys of the "New Irish". Just remember folks. Diversity is our Strength. As told to us by people who live in completely homogeneous neighborhoods with high walls and personal security.

This is just close minded nonsense. What areas in Dublin have high walls and personal security?

Diversity is neither a strength nor a weakness, it’s simply the new reality.

My wife is a “non-national” but she’s white, is she ok?

JohnMc1 · 12-01-2018 02:26PM

Dr Brown wrote: »

Just like the head of Irish Refugee Council who lives in one of the most expensive parts of Dublin were you will find few if any Non-Nationals.

It seems that "Diversity" is only for the little people.

Yep. They love virtue signaling. They love crying that we should let them in, but have no idea where they're going to stay or who going to provide for them. Throwing them on the dole and straining already strained public services is not compassionate for anyone. I always said the Left love to look compassionate, but they're not keen on actually keen on being compassionate.

JohnMc1 · 12-01-2018 02:31PM

Brian? wrote: »

This is just close minded nonsense. What areas in Dublin have high walls and personal security?

I was mostly referring to the Celebrities who love crying "Let them in", but are not in any hurry to take care of them. Look at JK Rowling. Loves tweeting that we should take them, but has yet to take any into her spacious mansion.

Diversity is neither a strength nor a weakness, it’s simply the new reality.

An increase in rape, acid attacks and scum using trucks to plow into busy streets in order to kill as many people as possible is not a reality we should accept.

My wife is a “non-national” but she’s white, is she ok?

Depends. Did she commit any violent crimes? Does she demand we should that we change our Country to be more like the one she left?

Ash.J.Williams · 12-01-2018 02:33PM

JohnMc1 wrote: »

I was mostly referring to the Celebrities who love crying "Let them in", but are not in any hurry to take care of them. Look at JK Rowling. Loves tweeting that we should take them, but has yet to take any into her spacious mansion.

An increase in rape, acid attacks and scum using trucks to plow into busy streets in order to kill as many people as possible is not a reality we should accept.

Depends. Did she commit any violent crimes? Does she demand we should that we change our Country to be more like the one she left?

do people request that when they arrive?

wakka12 · 12-01-2018 02:38PM

humpsterfire wrote: »

Well all the pretending seems to be working wonders in the united states. That's a great country, right?

Or South Africa?

Some things cannot be brushed under the carpet, ever. An irish person "born and raised" in Saudi Arabia is never, ever going to be recognised on a societal level as a Saudi Arabian. A Japanese person born in Nigeria is never, ever, going to be recognised on a societal level as a Nigerian.

Sure, you can play games and be polite, but that doesn't mean jack in the real world. Its just fooling yourself.

Most west europeans do accept people of different race as their own nationality though? I think we are more advanced and liberal societies than nigeria or saudi arabia. The fact that we accept people of different races and ethnicities as our own is one of the better characteristics of european society, not something that should be changed
Brush what under the carpet anyway? You seriously think people of different race can't be considered irish? I think you'll find people with that view are a small minority in ireland, its nowhere near as common opinion as you seem to be making out in the 'real world'

wakka12 · 12-01-2018 02:47PM

gw80 wrote: »

I think some people are getting their knickers in a twist over labels, some people will never accept that people, even descendents of people from different parts of the world are going to be Irish,it doesent automatically mean they hate them or that they are racist, they just have a different idea of what being irish is.

Maybe they don't hate them. But nationality is a social construct,you don't need anything other than a passport to fulfil it, why is it so hard to accept somebody as a nationality just because their lineage doesnt match the stereotypical view of it?

When you think about it for a bit you'll see how ridiculous it is to deem somebody irish based on their accent and appearance. Accents and turn of phrase change unrecognisably throughout history, none of us young irish talk like our irish grandparents do we? English people don't speak like charles dickens now? And the phenotype of irish people has changed considerably from its native inhabitants originally due to viking, norman admixture..but now all of these changes are accepted as what makes us irish. So why can't further admixture of foreign culture,language and physical appearance mean irish culture can grow and change further?

Brian? · 12-01-2018 03:16PM

JohnMc1 wrote: »

I was mostly referring to the Celebrities who love crying "Let them in", but are not in any hurry to take care of them. Look at JK Rowling. Loves tweeting that we should take them, but has yet to take any into her spacious mansion.

You think only celebrities believe in taking in immigrants? You’re flat wrong. I supported it before I ever met my wife.

If you don’t think only celebrities believe in it, can you drop the nonsense hyperbole.

An increase in rape, acid attacks and scum using trucks to plow into busy streets in order to kill as many people as possible is not a reality we should accept.

Quality straw man. Really first class. Accepting immigrants does not equal accepting any of the above. You’re grossly generalising immigrants, it’s called bigotry.

Depends. Did she commit any violent crimes? Does she demand we should that we change our Country to be more like the one she left?

No violent crimes to my knowledge. She does demand we change to be more like the one she left. She’s particularly angry about the public health system and customer service. I don’t necessarily agree on the customer service bit. She’d also like to see the buses and trains run on time and less parish pump politics, but she’s not necessarily demanding on the subjects.

Do I have to send her home? Or can we accept diverse opinions on how to improve Ireland?

Brian? · 12-01-2018 03:18PM

What about the Irish violent criminals and Irish people who demand society is changed? Do we put them on a ship and exile them?

Rory28 · 12-01-2018 03:23PM

Brian? wrote: »

What about the Irish violent criminals and Irish people who demand society is changed? Do we put them on a ship and exile them?

If we could get all violent criminals out of the country I would be quite happy but as is we are stuck with the homegrown ones. we dont need to be stuck with the others.

Wibbs · 12-01-2018 03:25PM

Brian? wrote: »

What about the Irish violent criminals and Irish people who demand society is changed? Do we put them on a ship and exile them?

Prison barge maybe. Hope springs... In any case yes we have our own scumbags and our own social problems, the question for me is simple; why are we hellbent on importing more potential social problems? Social problems that we can directly observe in every single other European society that has gone this route? Once numbers go beyond a certain point - and thankfully we're below that threshold at the moment* - these social problems inevitably raise their ugly head. Point to me a European nation where it hasn't? I'll save you the trouble B, you won't be able to.

*even at this early stage we're seeing the problems kicking off. But oh no, let's keep going. Unreal.

Dr Brown · 12-01-2018 03:26PM

Brian? wrote: »

What about the Irish violent criminals and Irish people who demand society is changed? Do we put them on a ship and exile them?

We can't do much about Irish criminals but we can deport foreign criminals.

Odhinn · 12-01-2018 03:30PM

Dr Brown wrote: »

We can't do much about Irish criminals but we can deport foreign criminals.

We do - What are you on about?

Odhinn · 12-01-2018 03:31PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Prison barge maybe. Hope springs... In any case yes we have our own scumbags and our own social problems, the question for me is simple; why are we hellbent on importing more potential social problems? Social problems that we can directly observe in every single other European society that has gone this route? Once numbers go beyond a certain point - and thankfully we're below that threshold at the moment* - these social problems inevitably raise their ugly head. Point to me a European nation where it hasn't? I'll save you the trouble B, you won't be able to.

*even at this early stage we're seeing the problems kicking off. But oh no, let's keep going. Unreal.

Yes, we'll just keep it nice and pure. Sure what could go wrong?

The_Kew_Tour · 12-01-2018 03:33PM

Dr Brown wrote: »

We can't do much about Irish criminals but we can deport foreign criminals.

sadly we can't. in fact we help them

https://m.herald.ie/news/is-terror-leader-in-ireland-is-living-on-welfare-34221156.html

Odhinn · 12-01-2018 03:36PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

sadly we can't. in fact we help them

https://m.herald.ie/news/is-terror-leader-in-ireland-is-living-on-welfare-34221156.html

Thats out of date. He's gone
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/alleged-recruiter-for-isis-in-ireland-deported-to-jordan-1.2714275

Brian? · 12-01-2018 03:37PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Prison barge maybe. Hope springs... In any case yes we have our own scumbags and our own social problems, the question for me is simple; why are we hellbent on importing more potential social problems? Social problems that we can directly observe in every single other European society that has gone this route? Once numbers go beyond a certain point - and thankfully we're below that threshold at the moment* - these social problems inevitably raise their ugly head. Point to me a European nation where it hasn't? I'll save you the trouble B, you won't be able to.

*even at this early stage we're seeing the problems kicking off. But oh no, let's keep going. Unreal.

It’s absolutely ridiculous to blame social issues on immigrants. THAT is my point. We are not “importing social issues”, we are seeing social issues due to a myriad of causes. They’re generally the same old issues that haven’t been fixed. The change of melatonin level in the people concerned is completely irrelevant.

Dr Brown · 12-01-2018 03:51PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

sadly we can't. in fact we help them

https://m.herald.ie/news/is-terror-leader-in-ireland-is-living-on-welfare-34221156.html

Yes and if do try and deport them they will play the "human rights" card.

Odhinn · 12-01-2018 03:53PM

Dr Brown wrote: »

Yes and if do try and deport them they will play the "human rights" card.

He was still deported though.

The_Kew_Tour · 12-01-2018 04:12PM

Odhinn wrote: »

Thats out of date. He's gone
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/alleged-recruiter-for-isis-in-ireland-deported-to-jordan-1.2714275

Yes and it was much too late.

but least he is gone. Hope somebody made poor old Gorman a sandwich or something after it. I mean to actually be head bof and still have issues says it all

homerjay2005 · 12-01-2018 04:34PM

Odhinn wrote: »

He was still deported though.

a very rare occurrence. getting people deported from Ireland is an extremely difficult task if people fight it in any way.

Wibbs · 13-01-2018 09:02AM

Brian? wrote: »

It’s absolutely ridiculous to blame social issues on immigrants. THAT is my point. We are not “importing social issues”, we are seeing social issues due to a myriad of causes. They’re generally the same old issues that haven’t been fixed. The change of melatonin level in the people concerned is completely irrelevant.

So avoiding my question entirely then? Yes we have existing social problems without adding the integration of new populations into the culture. That is quite clearly a different and new to Ireland social problem and other European countries consistently illustrate this and have done for decades. But you seem to imagine that somehow we'll magically avoid those problems?

Thestones · 13-01-2018 09:32AM

Wibbs wrote: »

So avoiding my question entirely then? Yes we have existing social problems without adding the integration of new populations into the culture. That is quite clearly a different and new to Ireland social problem and other European countries consistently illustrate this and have done for decades. But you seem to imagine that somehow we'll magically avoid those problems?

Totally agree with you, the writing is on the wall but so many people refuse to see it. As you say we have our own problems but why import more? I think out government won't do anything until it's too late, this pc world we live in.

Wibbs · 13-01-2018 09:40AM

I wouldn't call it "PC" myself. It comes from a fundamentally decent mindset that we can be better, do better and treat others more kindly. One I would subscribe to. However it's also a fundamentally naive mindset that steadfastly ignores realities that are staring us in the face, realities that other nations have decades of experience dealing with. And not better it's getting. But nope, we'll get it right for some reason.

Non-Nationals attacking Taxi drivers in West Dublin

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