how much would it cost to buy a 206 bell, run it and have a pilot available at anytim

euser1984 · 18-12-2017 02:06PM #1

would be interested in finding this information out for someone, thanks.

knucklehead6 · 18-12-2017 02:14PM

https://www.aircraftcostcalculator.com/media/198395/helicoper_costs_helictoper_operating_costs.pdf

Pat Dunne · 18-12-2017 06:02PM

euser1984 wrote: »

would be interested in finding this information out for someone, thanks.

Ha ha.... the Celtic Tiger is back!

ohnonotgmail · 19-12-2017 01:15PM

I used to work for a guy who took his helicopter to work on occasion. well before the celtic tiger years. He must have more money than i thought.

faoiarvok · 19-12-2017 01:28PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I used to work for a guy who took his helicopter to work on occasion. well before the celtic tiger years. He must have more money than i thought.

You know what type of helicopter, and did he fly it himself?

A 206 wouldn’t be the most expensive, but there are certainly much cheaper ones to run, and crew costs would contribute a lot to the price tag. Also lots of people who aren’t super rich share ownership and the associated costs of an aircraft, which could have been the case there also.

ohnonotgmail · 19-12-2017 01:31PM

faoiarvok wrote: »

You know what type of helicopter, and did he fly it himself?

A 206 wouldn’t be the most expensive, but there are certainly much cheaper ones to run, and crew costs would contribute a lot to the price tag. Also lots of people who aren’t super rich share ownership and the associated costs of an aircraft, which could have been the case there also.

one of those bubble fronted ones. 2 or 4 seats, i cant remember. Never got a go in it. Got a go in his light aircraft though. He flew it himself so no crew costs for him.

faoiarvok · 19-12-2017 02:23PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

one of those bubble fronted ones. 2 or 4 seats, i cant remember.

Probably a Robinson 22 or 44? Piston engine rather than turbine, so lower maintenance costs, and a fair bit lighter for lower fuel burn.

ohnonotgmail · 19-12-2017 07:05PM

faoiarvok wrote: »

Probably a Robinson 22 or 44? Piston engine rather than turbine, so lower maintenance costs, and a fair bit lighter for lower fuel burn.

yep, one of those

California Dreamer · 19-12-2017 07:28PM

The Robinson R44 is the Toyota Corolla of helicopters. It will get you and 3 people there but it has limitations, namely weight, rebuild costs etc. Although as helos go they are in the cheaper range. A brand new Raven 1 will set you back about 350-400k,

https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/list/category/5/piston-helicopters/manufacturer/robinson/model/r44-raven-ii

Compare that with a Bell 206, jet ranger type and a 'cheap one' will be in the $1m mark. Anything under that will be a 35 year old heap of scrap.

Lurching · 19-12-2017 10:19PM

California Dreamer wrote: »

Compare that with a Bell 206, jet ranger type and a 'cheap one' will be in the $1m mark. Anything under that will be a 35 year old heap of scrap.

I think you're being a bit harsh there. You'd pick up a very serviceable and well maintained 30 year old 206 for €400-500k. The only difference between it and the last of the 206s is that the last ones may have had slightly more up to date avionics, which wouldn't be that critical for a privately owned machine anyway.

Additionally, to the untrained eye, a 1976 206 BIII looks identical to a 2009 BIII.

California Dreamer · 19-12-2017 10:36PM

Lurching wrote: »

I think you're being a bit harsh there. You'd pick up a very serviceable and well maintained 30 year old 206 for €400-500k. The only difference between it and the last of the 206s is that the last ones may have had slightly more up to date avionics, which wouldn't be that critical for a privately owned machine anyway.

Additionally, to the untrained eye, a 1976 206 BIII looks identical to a 2009 BIII.

You are still talking about a 30 year bird. Plus the 206's are a complex turbine, starting them is an adventure unto itself. The last 206 I flew was a 1990 build and had well shown its age. Only had about 40 minutes as they are also expensive to train on compared to the Robbie

On the other hand a new Robbie is an ideal trainer and very forgiving machine for the casual flyer.

Lurching · 20-12-2017 07:01PM

California Dreamer wrote: »

You are still talking about a 30 year bird. Plus the 206's are a complex turbine, starting them is an adventure unto itself. The last 206 I flew was a 1990 build and had well shown its age. Only had about 40 minutes as they are also expensive to train on compared to the Robbie

On the other hand a new Robbie is an ideal trainer and very forgiving machine for the casual flyer.

The only 206 I've flown is a 1988 machine and it's remarkably fresh. It all depends on how well they are kept and whether or not they've gone through a refresh.
I'd have a very tough decision if I had the cash for a new R44. As you say yourself, the Robbie would be like buying a new Corolla, compared to buying a 10 year old 5 series BMW.

smurfjed · 21-12-2017 05:04AM

run it and have a pilot available at anytim
A single pilot available at your beck and call 24/7 will probably cost you more than the average annual operating costs.

euser1984 · 10-01-2018 03:39PM

someone said it would cost 500 euro an hour to fly it? does that sound right?

Storm 10 · 10-01-2018 04:07PM

Another one for Tenger

California Dreamer · 10-01-2018 05:30PM

euser1984 wrote: »

someone said it would cost 500 euro an hour to fly it? does that sound right?

For what now? A robbie or a 206?

L1011 · 10-01-2018 05:35PM

Walter Mitty and spam on the one thread - over.

how much would it cost to buy a 206 bell, run it and have a pilot available at anytim

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