Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

Village87 wrote: »

Well i do think he is a starter, All Star 2016. I cant think of many better players than TJ who is better than Walter in the air and brings that physicality.

Inconsistent, sometimes laid back and other time can lose the head a bit, but when on form definitely a standout player.

JJs Left Hand wrote: »

Harsh on our captain not being a standout player.

Also despite your dislike of him Conor Fogarty is a guaranteed starter. Or at least he should be.

Apologies forgot about Buckley, Fogarty needs to offer more for me. Whats his position ?

Village87 wrote: »

Apologies forgot about Buckley, Fogarty needs to offer more for me. Whats his position ?

Have a feeling that you are teeing up another chance to go through Conor's faults but I think as proven in 2 all ireland finals his best position is midfield, I don't particularly rate him as a halfback so other than midfield id see him as an option at corner back.

Walter walsh a stand out player come off it....and hes far from good in air.....very inconsistent .....have we ever gone into new year with so few starters

Topcat32 wrote: »

Well he is a starter for sure whether you like it or not.

Should start. Id deploy Buckley midfield, good athlete can get around the field, can replace Michale Fennelly. Padraig Walsh at wing back and Walter Walsh at wing forward with Richie Hogan No.11 and TJ close to goal at full forward. Eoin Murphy in the goal. Rest depends on form who steps up etc.

Topcat32 wrote: »

I think Buckley gets lost in midfield, runs around and trys to get involved in everthing but ends up not doing much a lot of time, half back is by far his best position in my opinion.

His performance going forward v Tipp last year in Thurlus was exceptional, adds another dimension going forward, i do know where your coming from tho when out of the game midfield

Village87 wrote: »

Topcat32 wrote: »

I think Buckley gets lost in midfield, runs around and trys to get involved in everthing but ends up not doing much a lot of time, half back is by far his best position in my opinion.

His performance going forward v Tipp last year in Thurlus was exceptional, adds another dimension going forward, i do know where your coming from tho when out of the game midfield

That game was on TG4 last night. Great game. Buckley was great at mid-field. He chipped in with 2 points running off the shoulding from deep. Mobile and has a good engine too.

Village87 wrote: »

Cornerback1 wrote: »

That game was on TG4 last night. Great game. Buckley was great at mid-field. He chipped in with 2 points running off the shoulding from deep. Mobile and has a good engine too.

TJ was excellent that day too. Some awful defending when looking at the game last night

Yeah, defending, for the goals, was brutal alright. Simple mistakes in clearing the ball. All last year seemed to be the same in terms of poor defending. We coughed up some bad scores from our point of view.


Part of that came from playing people out of position but showed great heart in that game. .T.J.'s 2 penalties were quality. Games under lights, however unnatural, always seem more exciting.

greenspurs wrote: »

Wally jumps down when there is a high ball..
Hes 6"4 and should win waaay more ball than he does , and doesn't use his physicality enough imo.
And as someone else mentioned , he can be very inconsistent.
And, what is his best position??

I reckon KK will struggle to make any impact on the Championship this year. The players just aren't there. New era looms.

(thank god we are finished talking about yer man from tipp) :rolleyes:

On the other hand he is mobile for a man of his size, is very strong, and on his good day is well able to take a score and is a good distributor of the ball, his ability under the high ball for a man of his size does let him down and even on his good days he seems to go missing for 10 minutes at a time, I think the key is to keep him involved as much as possible, he will mix the good with the bad but will make an impact.

I thought he won a deserved all star in 2016. Like all the Kilkenny forwards he was stuck to the ground last year. Id imagine tho that opposition defences would be more worried about him in a championship game than Chris Bolger, Kevin Kelly or John Walsh.

Village87 wrote: »

Some job picking a team for Championship now:

Will Paul Murphy & Colin Fennelly play any part this year ?
Colin be a big addition, Paul Murphy not as much.
Any news on Richie Hogan ?
Not so sure Conor o'Shea is the answer Centre back ?
Was a poor wing forward for his club a few years back, is Joe Lyng a better option.

5 stand out players to start:
Padraig Walsh
TJ Reid
Walter Walsh
Eoin Murphy
Richie Hogan

Open season after them 5

Lots of spots up for grabs this year us supporters will have to be patient and give lads a chance to bed in.
It's a big year for kevin kelly his being excellent for his club and hopefully he can step it up with the county.
It looks like darren brennan will be our sub keeper this is a good move although I'd like to see richie reid tried in defence and not the fowards.
I wonder padraig walsh be tried in the hf line personally I'd like to see a half back line of walsh,buckley and reid tried during the league.
As I said I could see deegan as a dark horse for corner back I'd like to see tom alyward and delaney tried in the full back line although I'd be afraid of the lack of pace but both are worth trying.
Conor fogartys best position is mf but leahy and oillie walsh could be tried here while scanlon still has some filling out to do,good to see James maher back after his horrible injury.
Donnelly,conor martin,chris bolger,john walsh and maybe billy ryan should see league time and push for a places on the panel in the summer.

PeterCasey wrote: »

Village87 wrote: »

You are a funny man .

How ?

brookville wrote: »

Lots of spots up for grabs this year us supporters will have to be patient and give lads a chance to bed in.
It's a big year for kevin kelly his being excellent for his club and hopefully he can step it up with the county.
It looks like darren brennan will be our sub keeper this is a good move although I'd like to see richie reid tried in defence and not the fowards.
I wonder padraig walsh be tried in the hf line personally I'd like to see a half back line of walsh,buckley and reid tried during the league.
As I said I could see deegan as a dark horse for corner back I'd like to see tom alyward and delaney tried in the full back line although I'd be afraid of the lack of pace but both are worth trying.
Conor fogartys best position is mf but leahy and oillie walsh could be tried here while scanlon still has some filling out to do,good to see James maher back after his horrible injury.
Donnelly,conor martin,chris bolger,john walsh and maybe billy ryan should see league time and push for a places on the panel in the summer.

I like the look of your half back line but I think Cody likes Joe Lyng and I think he’ll be in there be it at Centre or wing back. Personally I think he could do a Mick Fennelly type job at midfield.

As you say there are lots of spots up for grabs this year and we will have to be patient but with the players you named above aswell as a few more we won’t be short of talent and if we can get a settled team and a bit of momentum during the league we won’t be as far off as some people would have us believe.

brookville wrote: »

you could be right about joe lyng its a big year for lads like him conor o shea,conor martin and kevin Kelly all there a few years they should be trying to nail down a spots after being on the fringes for the last few years.
hopefully the team will be mixed around again at the weekend

Yeah the league for Conor Martin and Conor O’Shea will be very important, if either of them struggle you wouldn’t be surprised to see them gone off the panel by the start of the championship.

I agree that we should continue to mix up the team selection for the next few weeks but I think we need to get the spine of our team settled very early. At the minute we can’t say with a great deal of certainty who our starting fb, cb or midfield will be.