Breaking: At least 1 man dead after stabbing rampage in Dundalk

Snake Plisken · 06-01-2018 11:18PM

Captain Obvious wrote: »

How exactly does that affect you or anyone you know? How does it affect anyone but those who wish to dress like that?

Because it’s backwards, it marks Muslim kids as different, why should they dress different from their classmate that’s a form of segregation! If the head of the Catholic Church asked for all the girls to dress like Nuns you and the gang would be up in arms about it!

weldoninhio · 06-01-2018 11:24PM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

To be fair, promotion of one religion over another, especially in state schools, is a great way to drive a wedge between communities. Can't blame a minority religion for saying "We exist too."

I'd prefer all religious iconography and barriers to entry were scrapped.

I’d back that 100%

weldoninhio · 06-01-2018 11:24PM

Captain Obvious wrote: »

How exactly does that affect you or anyone you know? How does it affect anyone but those who wish to dress like that?

Chip, chip, chip

weldoninhio · 06-01-2018 11:27PM

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Because it’s backwards, it marks Muslim kids as different, why should they dress different from their classmate that’s a form of segregation! If the head of the Catholic Church asked for all the girls to dress like Nuns you and the gang would be up in arms about it!

They are the exact same people who would say ‘should all Jews wear stars tagged to their clothing’. Their mental gymnastics are up there with Nadia Comenachi”

soups05 · 07-01-2018 12:20AM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

You can't ****e yourself in this country without someone knowing about it.

If there were 1000's of assaults, it would be everywhere. You don't say anything because you'd be called a fear monger, or a fool. Not a racist.

in fairness, my assault was not reported in the media. the two guys were caught (by us) so no need for a garda appeal for info etc. We would not run to the papers/post on facebook/start a go fund me so apart from my friends and family no one knew about the assault. Not every assault makes headline news, this was outside the norm plus a man died so it made the news

AllForIt · 07-01-2018 12:44AM

dav3 wrote: »

Typical rightest (am I doing it right?), always playing the victim card. You can’t even try to have a debate with them without them accusing you of calling them racist. Is it any wonder the right is finished in Ireland.

If you're making racial slurs outside a courthouse, yes, you're a racist. Just because your brain can't comprehend it, doesn't mean you're right. It means your brain is wired differently to normal people. Normal sane people don't try to justify racism.

Yes, racist scumbags travelled to vent their bile outside the courthouse. It was well known.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/reaction-to-dundalk-stabbings-ranges-from-sympathy-to-slurs-1.3346332

Anti-immigrant chants heard outside courthouse where Mohamed Morei was charged

A group of people scuffled with gardaí and shouted racial slurs at the accused Mohamed Morei as he was brought to Dundalk District Court.

That is disgraceful. But to me the whole practice of allowing photographers, TV cameras and member of the public being allowed to stand outside courthouses is a thoroughly wrong practice imo. It doesn't serve any kind of positive purpose and it allows these kinds of things to which you refer occur. As I understand it justice need to be 'seen to be done'. That can be adequately provided for in written text and verbal tv reports without allowing the media to whip up a frenzy by providing video footage, from which they themselves benefit in terms of viewership. In some cases the accused isn't guilty at all, and how fair is that when their face has been plastered all over the media.

via4 · 07-01-2018 11:45AM

Sure it’s just like a day out for them thinking they are great heading up to the courthouse shouting abuse & they would be the last people to donate to the repatriation or attend the vigil but sure in their minds they are right.

splinter65 · 07-01-2018 01:04PM

via4 wrote: »

Sure it’s just like a day out for them thinking they are great heading up to the courthouse shouting abuse & they would be the last people to donate to the repatriation or attend the vigil but sure in their minds they are right.

If there’s an opportunity to be publicly loudly racist and get away with it, they’ll travel hundreds of miles to be there.
Nothing to do with outrage at the death of an innocent man.
Sure they would have been complaining about him and his Brit girlfriend taking jobs off Irish people anyway.
It’s just an opportunity to bellow and roar racist slurs and not get pulled over it.

DanMurphy · 07-01-2018 01:08PM

splinter65 wrote: »

If there’s an opportunity to be publicly loudly racist and get away with it, they’ll travel hundreds of miles to be there.
Nothing to do with outrage at the death of an innocent man.
Sure they would have been complaining about him and his Brit girlfriend taking jobs off Irish people anyway.
It’s just an opportunity to bellow and roar racist slurs and not get pulled over it.

Like shouting 'Allah Akbar' at Dublin Airport arrivals when a certain Dublin 'teen' arrived home? :pac:

Augme · 07-01-2018 01:12PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Same ones that tell us that Islam won’t affect us in Ireland. Chip, chip, chip.

“A Muslim campaign group says school uniforms should accommodate Islamic dress codes by allowing girls to wear full-length skirts, long-sleeved shirts and headscarves.”

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/islamic-dress-code-should-be-accommodated-in-schools-group-1.3346343?mode=amp

It's quite disturbing that you consider school girls being allowed to wear full-length skirts has a direct effect on you.

pilly · 07-01-2018 02:15PM

weldoninhio wrote:

Unfortunately thatâ€™s the attitude of the left. It doesnâ€™t matter that a man died. What matters is that people are angry about the murderer and that he had a different pigmentation of skin so the angry people are racist and bigots.

Absolute BS, not one person on this thread gives a **** about the dead guy.

pitifulgod · 07-01-2018 02:19PM

DanMurphy wrote: »

Like shouting 'Allah Akbar' at Dublin Airport arrivals when a certain Dublin 'teen' arrived home? :pac:

That's more you being easily being offended as it's a respectful phrase that predates terrorism by a long shot. Same Irish teen has been doing a fair bit of charity work since he got home btw. But oddly always ignored by the people outraged by return of Irish citizen..

grammer natsi · 07-01-2018 02:32PM

pilly wrote: »

Absolute BS, not one person on this thread gives a **** about the dead guy.

I would. An irony that in talking to family back home he must have remarked at how quiet life was compared to a big city and I would think he felt safe. I feel a sense of shame at the poor lad knifed on our streets.

RasTa · 07-01-2018 02:37PM

DanMurphy wrote: »

Like shouting 'Allah Akbar' at Dublin Airport arrivals when a certain Dublin 'teen' arrived home? :pac:

Sure the Egyptians where shouting that when Salah scored a peno to take them to the WC

WWN has perfected this whole thread and this article is 3 days old. Pretty sure all of these comments have being said already

WWN has reproduced some of his vital first hand accounts of Dundalk, Egypt, international terrorism, socioeconomic and religious factors in murders no one has the full facts on, all despite having last left Waterford in 2012.

“Now are you happy. I TOLD YOU THIS WOULD HAPPEN”

“How many times did I warn you all this would happen?!?!”

“I guess Dundalk is a no go area now. Don’t need to know the facts to know what’s going on, wake up.”

“Some people awful quiet about this. Sharia law here we come”

“Egyptian? Well, I think we know all we need to know now! Wonder is he best mates with yer man”

Nealan, bravely foregoing any need to use empathy or cognitive reasoning went on to further explain in repetitive and similar sentences that the incident was something he had told people would happen.

Gardaave confirmed that any individual such as Nealan who can claim to have known this incident was going to happen and didn’t report it to the police could face charges.

Yamanoto · 07-01-2018 02:42PM

pilly wrote: »

Absolute BS, not one person on this thread gives a **** about the dead guy.

What an odd thing to come out with.

07-01-2018 02:46PM

splinter65 wrote: »

If there’s an opportunity to be publicly loudly racist and get away with it, they’ll travel hundreds of miles to be there.

Where's this notion of people travelling 100's of miles to abuse a fella coming from? Second time I've seen this said? Or is this just made up in people's minds?

07-01-2018 02:48PM

pilly wrote: »

Absolute BS, not one person on this thread gives a **** about the dead guy.

You know what's in people's heads do you? Everyone I've spoken to feels absolutely awful for that young man and his family. You've got a horrendous know it all attitude on here and it's plain as day to see.

weldoninhio · 07-01-2018 03:11PM

Omackeral wrote: »

You know what's in people's heads do you? Everyone I've spoken to feels absolutely awful for that young man and his family. You've got a horrendous know it all attitude on here and it's plain as day to see.

There are a serious amount of mind readers on the far left.

ArthurDayne · 07-01-2018 03:49PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

There are a serious amount of mind readers on the far left.

There have been plenty of people on this thread who have purported to read the minds of 1.5 billion Muslims -- assuming to know what they think, how they act, and what they aspire towards in life. By all means, feel free to accuse people of attempted mind-reading, but perhaps with a lighter touch of selectivism.

weldoninhio · 07-01-2018 03:52PM

ArthurDayne wrote: »

There have been plenty of people on this thread who have purported to read the minds of 1.5 billion Muslims -- assuming to know what they think, how they act, and what they aspire towards in life. By all means, feel free to accuse people of attempted mind-reading, but perhaps with a lighter touch of selectivism.

I haven’t seen one post stating that ALL Muslims think one think of the other. Plenty of posts telling us what the people outside the courthouse think, their motives etc.

splinter65 · 07-01-2018 04:01PM

pilly wrote: »

Absolute BS, not one person on this thread gives a **** about the dead guy.

Sorry I do.
As a mother myself worrying endlessly about a girl in college 50 miles away, I can’t imagine what his loved ones are feeling today.
Also, he was having a good life, he had so much to do.
And some ****ed up **** decided it was his day to die.
Lock him up and give him bread and water.
That’s all the “asylum” he needs.

ArthurDayne · 07-01-2018 04:28PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

I haven’t seen one post stating that ALL Muslims think one think of the other. Plenty of posts telling us what the people outside the courthouse think, their motives etc.

We have had plenty of contributions here generalising the beliefs of Muslims as regards the extent to which they follow the exact word of the Qur'an, their 'compatability' with us Europeans, their views on women and homosexuals, along with Hattrickpatrick's much-lauded post where he said it wasn't about race/religion but about 'North Africa and the Middle East'.

Beyond Muslims, you yourself said yesterday : "Unfortunately that’s the attitude of the left. It doesn’t matter that a man died."

Is that my attitude ?

Finally, I would remind you that a generalising derogatory comment was made further back in the thread : "Haven't you a goat you should be raping right about now?"

You thanked it.

The_Kew_Tour · 07-01-2018 04:40PM

pilly wrote: »

Absolute BS, not one person on this thread gives a **** about the dead guy.

What a horrible thing to say.

If nobody cared, then nobody would be on here having a discussion.

As a country we let this poor man down and I just hope for his family sake that they get some justice.

That's not racist
that's not anti anything
that's just wanting justice for a good young man.

Goes for all blacks who have been killed for colour
or Muslims being killed as slaves

Is it really hard for people to understand that some of us just don't want end up in hate filled country.

Autochange · 07-01-2018 05:58PM

via4 wrote: »

Sure it’s just like a day out for them thinking they are great heading up to the courthouse shouting abuse & they would be the last people to donate to the repatriation or attend the vigil but sure in their minds they are right.

When it becomes common place in Ireland will you focus your criticism on those carrying out the attacks or on those who are outraged by it?

Captain Obvious · 07-01-2018 06:17PM

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Because it’s backwards, it marks Muslim kids as different, why should they dress different from their classmate that’s a form of segregation! If the head of the Catholic Church asked for all the girls to dress like Nuns you and the gang would be up in arms about it!

Dam right I would. But if someone decided they wanted to dress like that to comply with their belief system I can't see why they shouldn't be allowed, particularly if other religions were catered for.

weldoninhio wrote: »

Chip, chip, chip

Yeah that's about the extent of what I'd expect from you at this stage.

Mountainsandh · 07-01-2018 07:52PM

ArthurDayne wrote: »

We have had plenty of contributions here generalising the beliefs of Muslims as regards the extent to which they follow the exact word of the Qur'an, their 'compatability' with us Europeans, their views on women and homosexuals, along with Hattrickpatrick's much-lauded post where he said it wasn't about race/religion but about 'North Africa and the Middle East'.
.

Completely beside the point here.
That's not guessing what people "think".

That's discussing cultures, doctrines, ideologies, religious or social dogma.

It's not second guessing really, the above are often plainly acknowledged, and generally in scriptures*.

edit : *oh and I forgot, there is usually factual evidence of same. For example pushing homosexuals off a building as death penalty is a clear indication of your views on homosexuals.

Sam Quentin · 07-01-2018 08:22PM

People do care and are saddened and shocked at what happened to this poor guy. R.i.P

http://www.dundalkdemocrat.ie/news/home/290133/dundalk-to-honour-murdered-japanese-man-yosuke-sasaki-with-candlelit-vigil-and-book-of-condolences-on-monday.html

weldoninhio · 07-01-2018 08:37PM

ArthurDayne wrote: »

We have had plenty of contributions here generalising the beliefs of Muslims as regards the extent to which they follow the exact word of the Qur'an, their 'compatability' with us Europeans, their views on women and homosexuals, along with Hattrickpatrick's much-lauded post where he said it wasn't about race/religion but about 'North Africa and the Middle East'.

Beyond Muslims, you yourself said yesterday : "Unfortunately that’s the attitude of the left. It doesn’t matter that a man died."

Is that my attitude ?

Finally, I would remind you that a generalising derogatory comment was made further back in the thread : "Haven't you a goat you should be raping right about now?"

You thanked it.

The goat comment was in reply to a blatant troll. You know this, but are still using it to deflect. Nice try.

pilly · 07-01-2018 08:51PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote:

Is it really hard for people to understand that some of us just don't want end up in hate filled country.

Now that is ironic. You don't want to live in a hate filled country?

Neither do I and this thread is one of THE most hate filled things I've ever read.

Sam Quentin · 07-01-2018 08:57PM

http://www.dundalkdemocrat.ie/news/home/290133/dundalk-to-honour-murdered-japanese-man-yosuke-sasaki-with-candlelit-vigil-and-book-of-condolences-on-monday.html

Breaking: At least 1 man dead after stabbing rampage in Dundalk

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