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Breaking: At least 1 man dead after stabbing rampage in Dundalk

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  • #1112
    Tenigate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 846 ✭✭✭Tenigate


    Right new rule. If your name is Muhammad or one of its variations, you don't get in.

    It's worse than Hitler. If you're named after a 7th century warlord, with a 9 year old wife, who made his name slaughtering Jews and christians, sorry.. we're full. Don't come here. And mrs muhammad... Not so pushed on your headscarf either.


  • #1113
    Mountainsandh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,705 ✭✭✭Mountainsandh


    recedite wrote: »

    And there is probably a free legal aid lawyer in with him right now, telling him under no circumstances should he say anything like that. "A temporary insanity came over you". The guy himself is probably surprised to be still alive. Has probably only just discovered that the standard Irish Garda is unarmed.

    Good points, and although it may sound crass this particular lone wolf attack was not exactly one to cover him in glory (with his peers/Isis), so he may well have changed his mind on claiming it.
    Of course we see the tragedy in it, but to him it might be a failed attempt at mass murder.
    I hope the injured parties recover fully, and I feel for this young Japanese guy's family.


  • #1114
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    kravmaga wrote: »
    Who is Mark Humphrys?

    Some IT teacher who comes out with a localised version of the usual american islamophobic guff. A no-one.


  • #1115
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    recedite wrote: »
    Lets face it, this is not going to measure up to your definition of terrorism unless the guy formally announces he is a paid up member IS or Al Quaeda and is an agent fully under their command.
    Not sure if you're aware, but to the best of my knowledge Professor Moriarty is not the full Garda body, if even a garda at all.

    It's their measure we're waiting for feedback from, hence why he quoted them, even if it upsets you that they're not in the mindset of 'Muslim = automatic terrorist'.


  • #1116
    Tenigate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 846 ✭✭✭Tenigate


    Mountainsandh wrote: »
    I hope the injured parties recover fully, and I feel for this young Japanese guy's family.

    Meh. He knew the risks.

    He came to a country whose politicians were bought out by the EU and is forced to accept dangerous migrants.


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  • #1117
    Alun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,504 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    kravmaga wrote: »
    Who is Mark Humphrys?
    IT lecturer at DCU and part time something or the other ...

    http://markhumphrys.com/


  • #1118
    ArthurDayne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    Tenigate wrote: »
    Meh. He knew the risks.

    He came to a country whose politicians were bought out by the EU and is forced to accept dangerous migrants.

    I presume your sentiments would have been the same as regards Irish migrants in London during the IRA bombing campaign.


  • #1119
    ArchXStanton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    Tenigate wrote: »
    Meh. He knew the risks.

    He came to a country whose politicians were bought out by the EU and is forced to accept dangerous migrants.

    Seems Vardakar will be paying Orban a visit soon,probably to scold him for not having "muh European values"...

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/taoiseach-criticised-for-visit-to-anti-democratic-hungarian-pm-1.3344758

    Edit: the fcuking neck on Howlin to call Orban anti-democratic as he bigs up the EU


  • #1120
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    ArchXStanton wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/taoiseach-criticised-for-visit-to-anti-democratic-hungarian-pm-1.3344758

    Is that trip on today or next Thursday?
    Mr Varadkar will travel to Budapest on Thursday to meet with Mr Orban.
    He confirmed that he will raise issues with Mr Orban with which he does not agree.
    The timing could prove embarrassing for Varadkar if he goes ahead with this finger wagging mission.


  • #1121
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,898 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Strangely, despite what the daily mail had on it's front page, this is the only story I could find on the front page of their site.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-5235973/No-evidence-fatal-stabbing-linked-terrorism-Irish-police-say.html


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  • #1122
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/0104/931001-dundalk/
    No evidence its terror related


  • #1123
    BillyBobBS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭BillyBobBS


    ArchXStanton wrote: »
    Seems Vardakar will be paying Orban a visit soon,probably to scold him for not having "muh European values"...

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/taoiseach-criticised-for-visit-to-anti-democratic-hungarian-pm-1.3344758

    Edit: the fcuking neck on Howlin to call Orban anti-democratic as he bigs up the EU

    I'd give my right arm to have a politician the ilk of Orban running this country.


  • #1124
    pitifulgod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭pitifulgod


    recedite wrote: »
    Lets face it, this is not going to measure up to your definition of terrorism unless the guy formally announces he is a paid up member IS or Al Quaeda and is an agent fully under their command.

    And there is probably a free legal aid lawyer in with him right now, telling him under no circumstances should he say anything like that. "A temporary insanity came over you". The guy himself is probably surprised to be still alive. Has probably only just discovered that the standard Irish Garda is unarmed.

    Nevertheless, most of the terror attacks we have seen in Europe over the last 2 or 3 years have been perpetrated by "lone wolf" individuals from islamic countries, many of them failed asylum seekers wandering around the EU committing petty crime. Changing their name regularly and applying for temporary benefits in different countries, until eventually they get fed up with infidel society and decide to go out with a bang. Classic case in point; the Berlin lorry attack

    Normally (if the attack is newsworthy) IS would get to hear about it, and then claim the credit retrospectively. Not going to happen now though, because they have recently had their asses handed to them at former HQ in Raqqa.

    So you can happily declare that this is just a sad case of temporary insanity in a gentleman who happened to have been born abroad.
    I imagine our Gardai know a hell of a lot more about it than you. There's numerous murders and spree killings that occur across the globe every day with no relation to terrorism. In the event of the individual being brown, people want to shout terrorism no matter what, as you are.


  • #1125
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Alun wrote: »
    IT lecturer at DCU and part time something or the other ...

    http://markhumphrys.com/
    A very detailed and comprehensive resource there.
    In particular he has done a lot of research on The Clonskeagh Mosque and its place in society.


  • #1126
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    pitifulgod wrote: »
    In the event of the individual being brown..
    Was he brown? I think you are probably the first person to be interested in his skin colour in this thread.


  • #1127
    ArchXStanton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    BillyBobBS wrote: »
    I'd give my right arm to have a politician the ilk of Orban running this country.

    I've talked to a few Hungarians the last while and they are truly greatful to have him.


  • #1128
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    It says in one of the newspapers today that:
    ...The attacker's squat house had 'religious pictures and christian icons destroyed' within it
    Probably a natural reaction from someone with any type of mental illness, smashing any non recognised religious icons.

    Wouldn't be a fan of Scientolology, but still wouldn't dare dismember nor mark a poster
    of the superb filmography in the Tom Cruise film: 'risky business' (1983), an iconic masterpeice.


  • #1129
    pitifulgod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭pitifulgod


    recedite wrote: »
    Was he brown? I think you are probably the first person to be interested in his skin colour in this thread.

    I love the way you ignored the rest of my point. Random acts of horrible violence occur. All indications are this was. What you are engaging in is fear mongering against one group of people. This is the reality. And yes, I very much believe that xenophobia and racism tends to play into the mentality of many of those who engage in fear mongering. Eg people are rejecting the conclusions of the Gardai because it doesn't suit their prejudices..


  • #1130
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,601 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Cason Loud Broomstick wrote: »
    It says in one of the newspapers today that:


    Probably a natural reaction from someone with any type of mental illness, smashing any non recognised religious icons.

    Wouldn't be a fan of Scientolology, but still wouldn't dare dismember nor mark a poster
    of the superb filmography in the Tom Cruise film: 'risky business' (1983), an iconic masterpeice.


    The guards have already said it's not terror related, or at least no evidence to the fact..

    But yes, cling to anything you need to make your point


  • #1131
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Here's contact form for the Hungarian embassy in Dublin.
    Anyone interested should ask them to pass a message on to Viktor Orban.
    Get Orban to ask Varadkar why the Gardai did not detain this illegal migrant when they first encountered him, and instead just left him to wander around.
    Its the story of the whole failed EU Merkel migrant policy in one little microcosm.


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  • #1132
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Cason Loud Broomstick wrote: »
    It says in one of the newspapers today that:


    Probably a natural reaction from someone with any type of mental illness, smashing any non recognised religious icons.

    Wouldn't be a fan of Scientolology, but still wouldn't dare dismember nor mark a poster
    of the superb filmography in the Tom Cruise film: 'risky business' (1983), an iconic masterpeice.

    If you've been in any kind of squat, stuff is smashed all over the place.

    Absolutely no chance that the iconography (lets face it, it's probably that jesus picture with the red light) could have been smashed in the xx length of time it's been vacant/squatted before he got there?


  • #1133
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    pitifulgod wrote: »
    I love the way you ignored the rest of my point. ..
    Eg people are rejecting the conclusions of the Gardai because it doesn't suit their prejudices..
    Eh no, I have not disagreed with the conclusions of the Gardai. I explained in this post why it would be extremely difficult to label it positively as "a terrorist incident". Despite that, we know what it is.


  • #1134
    pumpkin4life
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    recedite wrote: »
    Here's contact form for the Hungarian embassy in Dublin.
    Anyone interested should ask them to pass a message on to Viktor Orban.
    Get Orban to ask Varadkar why the Gardai did not detain this illegal migrant when they first encountered him, and instead just left him to wander around.
    Its the story of the whole failed EU Merkel migrant policy in one little microcosm.

    INCOMING NEWS

    LOVELY LEO HAS BEEN ARRESTED BY VIKTOR ORBAN AND IS AWAITING TRIAL


  • #1135
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,898 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    recedite wrote: »
    Was he brown? I think you are probably the first person to be interested in his skin colour in this thread.

    You're forgetting the guy who said he'd attack anyone middle Eastern. Pretty sure that had something to do with skin colour. Unless he meant someone wandering around in a bedouin costume.


  • #1136
    pitifulgod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭pitifulgod


    recedite wrote: »
    Eh no, I have not disagreed with the conclusions of the Gardai. I explained in this post why it would be extremely difficult to label it positively as "a terrorist incident". Despite that, we know what it is.

    That's exactly what you're doing, you're claiming terrorism, no matter what.


  • #1137
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    recedite wrote: »
    Eh no, I have not disagreed with the conclusions of the Gardai. I explained in this post why it would be extremely difficult to label it positively as "a terrorist incident". Despite that, we know what it is.

    So even though it isn't, it is.


  • #1138
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    This guy should be severely punished and then sent back to whatever sandy sh*thole he came from but is there any hint yet that this was politically motivated?

    For example, has any group claimed responsibility yet?

    From what I can gather, this doesn't yet look like terrorism. It looks more like islamic racism or a violent reaction against possible deportation like that nigerian guy who mowed down pedestrians on henry street from around 15 years ago.

    I think calling this terrorism is a bit hyperbolic at this point. That being said, I don't understand why we can't easily deport people who are here illegally and are of known nationality. Especially if they show up on Garda radar.


  • #1139
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,394 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    ArchXStanton wrote: »
    Seems Vardakar will be paying Orban a visit soon,probably to scold him for not having "muh European values"...

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/taoiseach-criticised-for-visit-to-anti-democratic-hungarian-pm-1.3344758

    Edit: the fcuking neck on Howlin to call Orban anti-democratic as he bigs up the EU

    I doubt Orban is too bothered what that little garden gnome thinks.


  • #1140
    Snake Plisken
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,141 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    wakka12 wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/0104/931001-dundalk/
    No evidence its terror related

    Fake news! RTÉ are pro migrant that had reports out with the Irish Navy taxi service in the med. I’m sure the people of Dundalk felt terrorised yesterday. The Gardai wouldn’t probably say even if it was as they might have other indivuals under survalance.


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  • #1141
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,132 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I doubt the chap is only 18 either. But never mind, at least he can be named and his trial reported on as an adult.


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