Solo (young Han Solo film) spoilers from post 1493

deise08 · 03-01-2018 10:00PM

david75 wrote: »

From reddit. Dunno for sure if its legit. Falcon looks totally different. Cool.

Is that supposed to be Lando?

Goodshape · 03-01-2018 10:02PM

Yes.

Relikk · 03-01-2018 11:38PM

One thing TLJ needed was more Chewie. This should hopefully satisfy the quota I expect.

Inviere · 04-01-2018 08:31AM

The Falcon isn't hollow in its bow section in that poster, I wonder if this is the ships "original" configuration, & the filled in section is some type of cargo container that gets "dropped at the first sign of an Imperial Cruiser"...

Tigger · 04-01-2018 08:56AM

Inviere wrote: »

The Falcon isn't hollow in its bow section in that poster, I wonder if this is the ships "original" configuration, & the filled in section is some type of cargo container that gets "dropped at the first sign of an Imperial Cruiser"...

now jabba he had to drop it he was set up

Inviere · 04-01-2018 09:10AM

Tigger wrote: »

now jabba he had to drop it he was set up

Spoilers ffs

eviltimeban · 04-01-2018 09:39AM

So he's not really "young" Solo at all, is he?

Brief_Lives · 04-01-2018 11:40AM

Inviere wrote: »

The Falcon isn't hollow in its bow section in that poster, I wonder if this is the ships "original" configuration, & the filled in section is some type of cargo container that gets "dropped at the first sign of an Imperial Cruiser"...

(Nerd Alert ahead....)

Yea, I was thinking about that too... you have a good explanation....

I always had something like the image below in my head, but your one fits too..

eviltimeban · 04-01-2018 12:57PM

Brief_Lives wrote: »

(Nerd Alert ahead....)

Yea, I was thinking about that too... you have a good explanation....

I always had something like the image below in my head, but your one fits too..

Or, they are just making it look different for the sake of it. Like Lando's side parting.

david75 · 04-01-2018 01:00PM

Han heavily modified the ship after he won, so it will look different in this.

Disney denied that the image I posted above was official despite it coming from an official licensing outlet in Russia. Then they sent take down orders to those that first posted it so it’s probably legit.

Goodshape · 04-01-2018 02:30PM

eviltimeban wrote: »

Or, they are just making it look different for the sake of it. Like Lando's side parting.

Pray they don't alter it any further.

FunLover18 · 04-01-2018 03:19PM

eviltimeban wrote: »

Or, they are just making it look different for the sake of it. Like Lando's side parting.

Is this a joke or is Lando's side parting a thing? Are people annoyed by it?

nix · 04-01-2018 03:37PM

tenners bets we will see the kessel run in 12 parsecs :pac:

Arbitrary · 04-01-2018 03:44PM

After TLJ I won't be giving Disney another red cent of my money. I'm done with this ****. Despite how bad the prequels are, I still gave them a few viewings. The thought of sitting through TLJ is enough to make me feel queasy.

Instead of making films that are more about making political statements and social commentary on modern society, how about they start making films about Star Wars again.

Film for me is about escapism and I watch these films to escape for a brief time from my everyday life, not to be reminded of it. I'm a liberal/left person in general and this even managed to put me off.

Sure, ok, many films do this, but it's done with a more subtle approach and it's not rammed down your throat.

They should change the introduction to "In a Politcally Correct Galaxy far far away where offending someone is a crime".

So as far as Young Solo is concerned, if TLJ is anything to go by, this is going to be yet another PC steaming pile of crap and this is ultimately why this fim can never be good.

Han Solo is the polar opposite of PC, he's a scoundrel and an opportunistic smuggler. Can you honestly see Disney staying true to his character and doing it any justice? Not chance in a hell.

eviltimeban · 04-01-2018 03:57PM

FunLover18 wrote: »

Is this a joke or is Lando's side parting a thing? Are people annoyed by it?

Kind of a joke, but not annoyed by it, it just struck me as very obvious on the poster.

Goodshape · 04-01-2018 04:17PM

Arbitrary wrote: »

Film for me is about escapism and I watch these films to escape for a brief time from my everyday life, not to be reminded of it. I'm a liberal/left person in general and this even managed to put me off.

Sure, ok, many films do this, but it's done with a more subtle approach and it's not rammed down your throat.

They should change the introduction to "In a Politcally Correct Galaxy far far away where offending someone is a crime".

So as far as Young Solo is concerned, if TLJ is anything to go by, this is going to be yet another PC steaming pile of crap and this is ultimately why this fim can never be good.

I disliked TLJ as much as the next person, but come on. Being nice to people, and giving underrepresented groups a presence in scifi, used to be something we celebrated.

Don't buy into this SWJ / PC-warrior vs. "free speech" garbage from the USA. It's a manufactured argument.

There was nothing "un-PC" about Solo. Nor is there anything overly social-justice-warrior about TLJ.

It was difficult to get a person of colour on the bridge in the original Star Trek in the 1960s. Now it's not so difficult, so there are more of them in modern Star Wars/Trek. That is not a bad thing. Not at all.

Sick of hearing from self-titled "liberal/left [people] in general" as if increased diversity in characters and actors is actually a problem to be fought against.

Be the liberal/left person you claim to be and be happy that things have progressed since 1960s/1970s.

There are plenty of other legitimate reasons to be unhappy with the recent film. "Too many coloureds" is not bloody one of them.

Arbitrary · 04-01-2018 04:25PM

Goodshape wrote: »

I disliked TLJ as much as the next person, but come on. Being nice to people, and giving underrepresented groups a presence in scifi, used to be something we celebrated.

Don't buy into this SWJ / PC-warrior vs. "free speech" garbage from the USA. It's a manufactured argument.

There was nothing "un-PC" about Solo. Nor is there anything overly social-justice-warrior about TLJ.

It was difficult to get a person of colour on the bridge in the original Star Trek in the 1960s. Now it's not so difficult, so there are more of them in modern Star Wars/Trek. That is not a bad thing. Not at all.

Sick of hearing from self-titled "liberal/left [people] in general" as if increased diversity in characters and actors is actually a problem to be fought against.

Be the liberal/left person you claim to be and be happy that things have progressed since 1960s/1970s.

There are plenty of other legitimate reasons to be unhappy with the recent film. "Too many coloureds" is not bloody one of them.

It's not a problem when it's done seamlessly and naturally, it is a problem when it's done for the sake of doing it which does nothing for the storyline.

My all time favourite film is probably Aliens, which features a lead female character and has a very diverse cast for a film of its time. Your assumptions are wide off the mark.

Goodshape · 04-01-2018 04:56PM

Arbitrary wrote: »

It's not a problem when it's done seamlessly and naturally, it is a problem when it's done for the sake of doing it which does nothing for the storyline.

80% of the characters in TLJ were useless or had little/nothing worthwhile to do and ****ty dialogue to do it with. I fail to see how skin colour, race, gender, or anything else had anything at all to do with that.

You might ask yourself why, out of all the myriad of faults with the film, it was the "Politically Correct" attitude (whatever that's supposed to actually mean) that made you "queasy".

pixelburp · 04-01-2018 05:29PM

I guarantee if Aliens came out this year, there'd be people on the internet decrying its cast as 'PC', up in arms over transforming Ripley into a gung-ho action lead, how all the male soldiers are basically morons (Hudson in particular) - and hell, in the current climate you'd probably have some people getting uppity about the anti-corporation message represented by Carter Burke.

You'd swear the way some people bang on that the notion of a black / female / gay lead is so WILD a concept, that it's impossible for an audience to relate to this exotic, foreign creature that's in the lead.

04-01-2018 05:34PM

If the race or gender of a character affects how you view a piece of cinema then that says more about you than anything else. I don't think it matters who is cast in a role as long as they are the best person for the role. I would have no issue with Han Solo being portrayed by a woman if the script was strong and the film good. Diversity is not something people should be afraid of.

Moist Bread · 04-01-2018 05:42PM

Deleted User wrote: »

If the race or gender of a character affects how you view a piece of cinema then that says more about you than anything else. I don't think it matters who is cast in a role as long as they are the best person for the role. I would have no issue with Han Solo being portrayed by a woman if the script was strong and the film good. Diversity is not something people should be afraid of.

I would. Han Solo is a male character, it's set in stone.

A new Star Wars movie with a female lead who is a smuggler/outlaw would be fine. I'd rather see a movie like that than going back to the OT well for characters.

04-01-2018 05:45PM

Moist Bread wrote: »

I would. Han Solo is a male character, it's set in stone.

A new Star Wars movie with a female lead who is a smuggler/outlaw would be fine. I'd rather see a movie like that than going back to the OT well for characters.

Who said it's set in stone? Would have an issue with a black Han Solo? Are you one of those people who thinks that the female Dr. Who is a disgusting insult to fans around the world?

Moist Bread · 04-01-2018 05:48PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Who said it's set in stone? Would have an issue with a black Han Solo? Are you one of those people who thinks that the female Dr. Who is a disgusting insult to fans around the world?

No. The Doctor can be any gender or race, it's part of the character. So it makes sense.

Han Solo is a white male. You cannot change that. Otherwise, what's the point of the character? You think you could change Chewie to be a Jawa too?

I mean, I guess you could make those changes - I just think they would be dumb.

Goodshape · 04-01-2018 05:52PM

That's... a bit of a stretch to be honest, Darko.

A non-white Han Solo wouldn't be that big a deal, but non-male? It seems a bit more integral to his character to be honest (whereas it isn't at all in Doctor Who, and isn't very much in James Bond, for instance).

It would be like a Han Solo film where he's not a smuggler. Or not a scoundrel. He's a lad's lad and that's part of the character.

IMO, at least.

Moist Bread · 04-01-2018 05:55PM

I think you have to have some form of continuity. Changing a characters race for no real reason seems like trying to be subversive for it's own sake.

Sure, if you were rebooting the series and reamkeing the OT, you could have a black/Asian Han Solo, but otherwise it's pandering and weird.

04-01-2018 05:56PM

Moist Bread wrote: »

No. The Doctor can be any gender or race, it's part of the character. So it makes sense.

Han Solo is a white male. You cannot change that. Otherwise, what's the point of the character? You think you could change Chewie to be a Jawa too?

I mean, I guess you could make those changes - I just think they would be dumb.

Comparision is weak, we are not talking about changing species here.

What you are saying is that if a character is portrayed as one race or gender then it is set in stone and can't be changed. So a black actor playing Solo is a not go then for you.

How about when they changed Starbuck to a woman? Was it not set in stone that Starbuck was a man? Or what about Lucy Liu in Elementary, a female Watson, disgraceful carry on.

If you have an issue with a character being played by someone of a differnt race or gender then the problem is yours.

Moist Bread · 04-01-2018 05:58PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Comparision is weak, we are not talking about changing species here.

What you are saying is that if a character is portrayed as one race or gender then it is set in stone and can't be changed. So a black actor playing Solo is a not go then for you.

How about when they changed Starbuck to a woman? Was it not set in stone that Starbuck was a man? Or what about Lucy Liu in Elementary, a female Watson, disgraceful carry on.

If you have an issue with a character being played by someone of a differnt race or gender then the problem is yours.

All reboots, so it's fine.

It's slightly pathetic you trying to paint me as a racist misogynist because I care about continuity.

Auroras_encore · 04-01-2018 06:01PM

Jesus Christ! han solo is a white male, Harrison Ford is a white male, stick your pc nonsense where the sun don't shine

FunLover18 · 04-01-2018 06:03PM

Arbitrary wrote: »

It's not a problem when it's done seamlessly and naturally, it is a problem when it's done for the sake of doing it which does nothing for the storyline.

My all time favourite film is probably Aliens, which features a lead female character and has a very diverse cast for a film of its time. Your assumptions are wide off the mark.

Define 'seamless' and 'natural' because I don't recall a scene where Poe says "Finn, you should join the resistance it would look great for our image" nor does Phasma bemoan the defection of their token black Stormtrooper. In fact I don't recall any reference to skin tone in either TFA or TLJ, Finn and Rose are simply people in a universe full of people. You're right, it has nothing to do with the story and they try to make it a part of the story, it could not be more natural buy I would love to be corrected with a detailed description of how introducing non-white characters could be any more natural than simply having them exist.

04-01-2018 06:03PM

Moist Bread wrote: »

All reboots, so it's fine.

It's slightly pathetic you trying to paint me as a racist misogynist because I care about continuity.

Not trying to paint you as anything. Just pointing out that when it comes to cinema, especially a piece of popcorn fluff like Star Wars the race and gender of a character is far less important than the writing. If the Han Solo in the new film was Black or even a woman I'd be far more inclined to go see it simply to see why they made that choice. As it stands I have zero interest in the film as it stands.

Also, if the prequel was reboot you would have no issue with a black female Han Solo?

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Solo (young Han Solo film) spoilers from post 1493