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The slow death of forums *see OP for Admin warning and update 28/02/18*

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  • #602
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Zoey Famous Aftershave wrote: »
    I think you're just noticing the few poor one's and can't see those good one's who are almost invisible because of their efficiency.

    I can only go on the forums I post in. As I said in the other thread, I once got given out to in a thread for thanking posts.


  • #603
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,726 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    How many of the 3,123,000 posts in 2017 were subject to any form of moderation? And how does that compare to 2011 when there were 5,618,000 posts?

    Unless there has been some huge increase in intervention by moderators then that is not the reason for the decline. At a guess I would think that well under 1% of posts would have come under notice from moderators in any year.

    The reason for the decline has already been given in a few posts, new technology. I got my first mobile phone a couple of weeks back. It would probably take me an hour on it to compose a post like some of the walls of text that can be seen here. I used it a few times to look at Boards, and even that is cumbersome.


  • #604
    Insect Overlord
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,030 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    My theory is that there's less visibility now than there was 10 years ago, particularly when it comes to the Third Level forums. In the 2000s you'd often have to wait in the queue for a college computer and you'd be able to see what other students were up to. It was effectively free advertising. Now everyone browses on their phones, or wifi hot-spots mean you can have a bit more privacy with your laptop, so there's less exposure for the site in public places.

    There's obviously more choice with the explosion of other sites and apps too, but I think new people just aren't being made aware of Boards like they were before. Couple that with several years of mass emigration and it's easy to explain the lack of "young blood".


  • #605
    NollagShona
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭NollagShona


    Ray M wrote: »
    Waaaah! stop having opinions I disagree with, racists!

    Having an opinion I disagree with doesn’t make one racist.

    Having racist opinions and beliefs makes one racist


  • #606
    Don Kiddick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭Don Kiddick


    Slow Hangover wrote: »
    Problem is, сunts like you label anyone who doesn’t bow down before travellers, Muslims, trannies and rapefugees as a racist.

    What about those bastard Eskimos!!


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  • #607
    NollagShona
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭NollagShona


    Slow Hangover wrote: »
    Problem is, сunts like you label anyone who doesn’t bow down before travellers, Muslims, trannies and rapefugees as a racist.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxuThNgl3YA


  • #608
    Don Kiddick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭Don Kiddick


    Slow Hangover wrote: »
    Fuсk those сunts!

    What... both Eskimos and Eskimoettes?... jaysus.. Don don't play that way


  • #609
    Joe prim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Joe prim


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  • #610
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Although it will have disappeared in a few minutes - thank you Mods - it's idiots like this habitual re-reg who deter people from using Boards and drive Mods to distraction at times, I'd imagine.


  • #611
    keith_sixteen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭keith_sixteen


    Beasty wrote: »
    There are no "Soccer mods" modding Rugby. You are looking the Category mods - one of those is currently a Soccer Mod and another used to be.

    Yes we've noted inactivity amongst a couple of the mods. One has been removed because of that. The other still drops by although is certainly not active within the forum. In this case the CMods have done what they are expected to do, and put forward some suggestions for new mods. These are currently being reviewed by the Admins, but a few of the Admins have not been around over the holiday break. I expect this to be progressed early in the New Year

    Hi Beasty,

    Appreciate your input on this. With respect, the moderation in Rugby is dreadful. It's a closed forum as far as I'm concerned.


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  • #612
    Don Kiddick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭Don Kiddick


    Zoey Famous Aftershave wrote: »
    Although it will have disappeared in a few minutes - thank you Mods - it's idiots like this habitual re-reg who deter people from using Boards and drive Mods to distraction at times, I'd imagine.

    There's only a few of them, some are entertaining...some not so much.... but mods will tell you that they aren't much of a bother to them at all


  • #613
    NollagShona
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭NollagShona


    If I hadn’t been hooked on Boards 15 years ago, I don’t think I’d join what it has become today


  • #614
    darced
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    This post has been deleted.


  • #615
    LollipopJimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    keith_sixteen wrote: »
    Hi Beasty,

    Appreciate your input on this. With respect, the moderation in Rugby is dreadful. It's a closed forum as far as I'm concerned.

    It's the users that make a forum not a mod.


  • #616
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,046 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    LollipopJimmy wrote:
    It's the users that make a forum not a mod.

    A mod is like the conductor of an orchestra, they absolutely impact on the tone.


    Even when "posting" as opposed to "modding" they're posts can be viewed as boundary markers.


  • #617
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    keith_sixteen wrote: »
    Hi Beasty,

    Appreciate your input on this. With respect, the moderation in Rugby is dreadful. It's a closed forum as far as I'm concerned.
    We have had different posters in this thread offering very different views on that particular point. However this is really not the right place to complain about moderation of specific forums. When I was CMod of Sports I would regularly get PMs making certain assertions about moderation within certain sports forums. I would take on board the comments and assess if I thought there was an issue. If so I would have a word with local mods. If not I would get back to the poster to explain the position I had taken. That's one of the roles of CMods.

    I would add though that there are certain forums including the ones covering popular team sports where team rivalry can result in quite a lot of friction resulting in mod actions. That is down to the posters rather than the mods though (unless the mods themselves are getting involved in the tribalism but I'm not aware of any current Sports mods who would do that)


  • #618
    LollipopJimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    Tell me how wrote: »
    A mod is like the conductor of an orchestra, they absolutely impact on the tone.


    Even when "posting" as opposed to "modding" they're posts can be viewed as boundary markers.

    I respectfully disagree. If a forum feels 'closed' then its the users tgat are the problem not the mods


  • #619
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Don Kiddick wrote: »
    There's only a few of them, some are entertaining...some not so much.... but mods will tell you that they aren't much of a bother to them at all

    We have already had a point raised that sometimes a regular re-reg has started a thread that gains traction only for it to be summarily deleted when the user is banned

    Such deletions are usually down to the Admin and often we simply do not have time to go though all threads someone has posted in. Indeed in my reckoning it takes a re-reg about 2 to 2 and a half minutes to open a new account. Sometimes you can gave 3+ setting up accounts at the same time. Yes those accounts can be banned within a few seconds and there have been days when 50+ accounts are banned without a post being made. That means though that mods are not seeing them either.

    One of the things I have taken from this thread for further discussion within the Admin and Mod teams is whether we can find a way to accommodate threads started by these people which have gained traction (we will not though leave up threads where abusive or otherwise offensive usernames have been used to create a new thread)


  • #620
    Discodog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Ewan Hoosarmi wrote: »
    Good moderating is practically invisible.

    I will reply as this is in a reply to me. I have only really had one run in with a Mod & yes I still know that I was 100% justified.

    The majority, that I see, do a pretty good job. The problem is that a bad Mod can ruin a forum just as good Mods can make it.

    I can think of one who was excellent. He stepped down, hopefully just for a break, but the tone that he set has carried on & he still posts every day.

    I would urge any Mod, CMod or Admin to, once in a while, not be afraid to admit that they got it wrong. It really is a sign of strength not weakness.


  • #621
    Discodog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Good point. Does Boards offer Mods guidance as to how to implement Moderation ?


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  • #622
    tototoe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭tototoe


    keith_sixteen wrote: »
    Hi Beasty,

    Appreciate your input on this. With respect, the moderation in Rugby is dreadful. It's a closed forum as far as I'm concerned.

    Hear hear. The rugby forum used to be a great read, now it's a group think by a small few and if you disagree, forget about it. It's become exactly what's wrong with boards.ie imo


  • #623
    LollipopJimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    Discodog wrote: »
    Good point. Does Boards offer Mods guidance as to how to implement Moderation ?

    Many many years ago I modded here and there was. A good chunk of the modding decisions were actually collective too so a good way to learn


  • #624
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Discodog wrote: »
    Good point. Does Boards offer Mods guidance as to how to implement Moderation ?

    Yes there is an introductory PM and a thread in the Mods forum. We recognise though that we should revisit those communications

    I would add that although many aspects of moderation can be standardised it's not going to be possible to apply the same rules in the same way across the site. Soccer is an example of a forum that has ended up with a very long and prescriptive Charter that is that way because of user feedback. Other forums can be and are a lot more laid back in their approach to moderation. There is no "one size fits all" solution where you have such a wide spectrum of topics and discussion.


  • #625
    dudara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Discodog wrote: »
    Good point. Does Boards offer Mods guidance as to how to implement Moderation ?

    There are FAQs and guidance. In addition, the CMods are there to support and guide Mods. This is why we often recommend that posters contact CMods if they have an issue. CMods are chosen for their experience and how they handle situations.


  • #626
    Discodog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Beasty wrote: »
    Yes there is an introductory PM and a thread in the Mods forum. We recognise though that we should revisit those communications

    I would add that although many aspects of moderation can be standardised it's not going to be possible to apply the same rules in the same way across the site. Soccer is an example of a forum that has ended up with a very long and prescriptive Charter that is that way because of user feedback. Other forums can be and are a lot more laid back in their approach to moderation. There is no "one size fits all" solution where you have such a wide spectrum of topics and discussion.

    Most of the soccer moderation is good. Excellent example

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105686128&postcount=4144

    I think that the point made here should apply to every forum - yes even After Hours. And no one should be allowed to refer to people as scum especially in a thread title

    Scum cause bad crash on N7 thankfully only scum injured


  • #627
    1eg0a3xv7b82of
    Closed Accounts Posts: 996 ✭✭✭1eg0a3xv7b82of


    Tell me how wrote: »
    OK, my sarcasm buzzer is going off.

    Can you pinpoint the reason it is this way?
    How would you fix it?

    Go and read the thread and decide for yourself. Start 20 pages back on the Ireland rumors thread

    It can’t be fixed as it is run by a closed group, the way it is run by the mods is akin to apartheid SA
    I was ran out of there


  • #628
    keith_sixteen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭keith_sixteen


    Discodog wrote: »
    Most of the soccer moderation is good. Excellent example

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105686128&postcount=4144

    I think that the point made here should apply to every forum - yes even After Hours.

    Plus 1 - soccer moderation is excellent to be fair.


  • #629
    keith_sixteen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭keith_sixteen


    Beasty wrote: »
    I would add though that there are certain forums including the ones covering popular team sports where team rivalry can result in quite a lot of friction resulting in mod actions. That is down to the posters rather than the mods though (unless the mods themselves are getting involved in the tribalism but I'm not aware of any current Sports mods who would do that)

    Good shout Beasty. Don't take it as a complaint as such, just offering an opinion about that forum as I see it. And as I mentioned above, Soccer is run very well.

    LollipopJimmy wrote: »
    I respectfully disagree. If a forum feels 'closed' then its the users tgat are the problem not the mods

    How is it a users problem if they feel locked out of one forum while not encountering the same problem in many other forums?


  • #630
    Insect Overlord
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,030 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Lamar Glamorous Movement wrote: »
    It can’t be fixed as it is run by a closed group, the way it is run by the mods is akin to apartheid SA
    I was ran out of there

    :pac:


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  • #631
    LollipopJimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    keith_sixteen wrote: »


    How is it a users problem if they feel locked out of one forum while not encountering the same problem in many other forums?

    Not the person that feels locked out but the users of the forum.


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