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  • #482
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,726 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Here's the thread relating to lack of activity in NI Forums that I referred to previously: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056205488

    Just had a look at the Antrim Forum tonight - most recent post 2/1/2017 and the post before that 18/9/2016 - need I say more. :(

    The Belfast forum has had a good bit of activity in 2017. Need I say more.


  • #483
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    boombang wrote: »
    Not in my opinion. The thread is of interest to more than the OP.

    this annoys me too. the OP says they have an answer but there could still be a lot of merit to other users having a debate. why close it. (talking in general not specifically)


  • #484
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    How you know anything about right wing politics on this site is beyond me, but I would welcome a steer on that.

    Probably not the correct thread here, but start one yourself maybe on your theme.

    I’ve no interest in starting a thread on any particular topic currently.


  • #485
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    pm me with it. I'm genuinely trying to work it out. I think I have medium level opinions from both sides that are averaging out

    Apologies, I do not do Pms and hopefully never will.

    That is clique territory right there!

    But sure some muppet will come up with something about me maybe in my younger days!. What I meant was I don't message people now. Thank you.

    Anyway wish you the best.


  • #486
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    Well, there you go. That’s my take on it. You don’t agree, fine.

    Though your responding to my post is not at all surprising. Could have bet on it.


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  • #487
    Del.Monte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    The Belfast forum has had a good bit of activity in 2017. Need I say more.

    You're kidding right? :confused:

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=477

    ****



  • #488
    gandalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    boombang wrote: »
    Not in my opinion. The thread is of interest to more than the OP.

    I'd agree with this position. If this was a sub forum where users ask specific questions and get answers fair enough but this is a generic question on the busiest forum of the site. The message it sends out is boards is a discussion board that doesn't value discussion at all?


  • #489
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,523 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Right wing here is anything that is not totally Left wing liberal and let the taxpayer/working people pay for everything but do not attempt to criticise anyone outside that cohort at all.

    Many are working their socks off to have a house and one or if lucky two kids. But if anyone criticises those who are claiming from the State and have loads of kids it is a shut up kind of thing.

    We can be right wing in financial things, but left wing in social things. That is probably a left of centre ideology.

    I can see cards left right and centre (ha ha) before too long here.

    But debate and discussion moves on doesn't it. Or is that not allowed now either.

    you can criticise the decisian to have lots of children when you can't afford them. plenty do it on here and don't have problems bar others disagreeing with their view. the problem is when it goes beyond genuine criticism to absolute vitrial.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #490
    Stoner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    TheAnalyst_ wrote:
    boards total posts per year 2017 3,123,577 2016 3,348,994 2015 4,048,985 2014 4,748,112 2013 4,935,597 2012 5,308,684 2011 5,618,076 2010 5,330,972 2009 4,610,143

    My subconscious was at me about this.

    I've a thought that some must have had already.

    I like moderated forums. The GAA forum here is the best one I know of because of the mods

    Let's say we consider the old line about the internet being a place to go, the third place, work, home, online.

    We present ourselves online

    So would TV be a good Model

    When sky etc came out there were huge audiences drop off on BBC

    Noel Edmunds lost his Saturday night slot due to dropping numbers , but according to him his replacements never reached his numbers.

    He claimed there was simply more choice. 50 stations and not 8 anymore.

    Surely there is an element of this at play , or would the growth of sites like Facebook blow a hole in my argument?


  • #491
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    end of the road wrote: »
    you can criticise the decisian to have lots of children when you can't afford them. plenty do it on here and don't have problems bar others disagreeing with their view. the problem is when it goes beyond genuine criticism to absolute vitrial.

    Sure anything like that shows good moderation. Unfortunately moderation goes WAAAAY beyond that now.


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  • #492
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Jobs OXO wrote: »
    Of course the community is quiet - FEEDBACK FORUM IS NO MORE

    You took the words right out of my mouth!


  • #493
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    _Dara_ wrote: »
    Reiterating a post I made earlier in the thread but I don't get this whole “you only see one side of the argument” thing. The traveller threads - there are plenty of comments representative of all angles of the argument.

    When people say only one view is allowed, they seem to be saying left-wing views. That’s nonsense, frankly. I’ve gained much of my understanding of right-wing politics and viewpoints because of reading AH extensively. If only left-wing opinion was allowed, how could that be?

    Claiming that only one viewpoint is allowed comes across as martyrdom.

    Try saying something even mildly negative about Transgenderism ..........


  • #494
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    NollagShona wrote: »
    Labelling all travellers as one to generalise isn’t a debate - it’s generalising and soap boxing. Like the anti Muslim Refugee threads here, blind eye turned to the most bigoted hateful posts - all in the name of free speech and balance - I typed boards into twitter and Right Wing extremist groups were referring people to it as a place- they could preach their Hate Speech freely.

    But it works both ways .......... being unable to post honestly about an issue (Travellers is the example you used) warrants any potential debate imbalanced and therefore irrelevant.

    And generalisations are necessary and valid in any discussion on a group of people, ie. if you've met 10 xyz people in your life and 8 of them were a5sholes then you should be able to say "in my personal experience of dealing with xyz people they have, in general but not all of them, been a5sholes."
    There's a huge difference between that statement and hate speech ....... any decent Mod should be able to tell the difference and act accordingly.


  • #495
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Beasty wrote: »
    But you are questioning it by posting here. You should only do that firstly with the mod, and then in the DRP, where both sides can be aired

    Perhaps he/she feels the DRP is a pointless exercise and can you blame him/her for feeling that way ...........


  • #496
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Beasty wrote: »
    It's not a general issue. The poster is referring to quite specific mod actions, which are not the topic of this thread, and where we have only one side of the story

    And so it begins ........... the closing of this thread is on the horizon.


  • #497
    prinzeugen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    Beasty wrote: »
    But you are questioning it by posting here. You should only do that firstly with the mod, and then in the DRP, where both sides can be aired

    I tried that once. The mod refused to reply to me so went to DR.

    Was told I need to change my opinions. Not once did the original mod get involved.

    I have complained about unfair/bias mods and nothing gets done.

    I have complained and reported posts for stuff that I got carded for.. Nothing done.
    (Example, I called the SNP leader Jimmy Krankie. Got a card for name calling. Boris & May get called names. No cards issued for that however).

    You get bullied for having a different opinion but get carded for being uncivil when you try to stand up to them.

    And going to DR archives nothing. You just get bullied more by the admins and mods.


  • #498
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,726 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Before it gets closed down I'm going to suggest that this thread may mark a turning point in the history of Boards, and herald a return to the glory days of the past. Which would be ironic.


  • #499
    NollagShona
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭NollagShona


    Glory days? Bitch, please!


  • #500
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Before it gets closed down I'm going to suggest that this thread may mark a turning point in the history of Boards, and herald a return to the glory days of the past. Which would be ironic.
    There are currently nearly 5,000 people on the site with over 3,000 of them signed in as registered users. Around 150 posters have contributed to this thread. The site goes on. Yes some posters have a gripe, and yes we will listen to genuine complaints/concerns. The purpose of a number of "contributors" to this thread seems to me to be to stir things up as much as they can for Mods/CMods?Admins and indeed full time employees. Because the site is not operating in the way they want, everything is wrong about the site

    And yes, I'm expecting a backlash - not for what I've posted, but because I'm an Admin


  • #501
    TheAnalyst_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭TheAnalyst_


    Beasty wrote: »
    There are currently nearly 5,000 people on the site with over 3,000 of them signed in as registered users. Around 150 posters have contributed to this thread. The site goes on. Yes some posters have a gripe, and yes we will listen to genuine complaints/concerns. The purpose of a number of "contributors" to this thread seems to me to be to stir things up as much as they can for Mods/CMods?Admins and indeed full time employees. Because the site is not operating in the way they want, everything is wrong about the site

    And yes, I'm expecting a backlash - not for what I've posted, but because I'm an Admin

    Nah because its dying and I will be sad to see it go. I'm sure the owners know the real story behind the numbers.


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  • #502
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    TheAnalyst_ wrote: »
    Nah because its dying and I will be sad to see it go. I'm sure the owners know the real story behind the numbers.
    I don't know if it's dying or not. I've analysed a lot of the "public" figures myself and as I've already posted the site is a lot "bigger" than it was 10 years ago (and indeed this year's figures are not too far adrift of last years, particularly when you consider the impact of the DDos attacks and Cloudfare issues). Will there be any site of this nature, in Ireland or elsewhere, in 5 or 10 years time? - I don't know, as in this day and age things move on very quickly


  • #503
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Lots of fora outside Ireland are self moderated. You know, report the post and we will see what we can do.

    Surely the company can incorporate something like that into the Boards.ie forum. Or is it another Irish Nanny State litigation thing.

    I am a member of various fora and many of them are self regulated. Not Reddit just to mention, I cannot get my head around the setup of posts there, but no matter.

    It must be terror of litigation, but surely that could be offset by a statement or something by the owners, but this is Ireland, litigation central, sorry forgot, so we are muzzled forever.


  • #504
    Lnr84
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 ✭Lnr84


    Shame really enjoy proper discussion not just slagging matches


  • #505
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Lots of fora outside Ireland are self moderated. You know, report the post and we will see what we can do.

    Surely the company can incorporate something like that into the Boards.ie forum. Or is it another Irish Nanny State litigation thing.

    I am a member of various fora and many of them are self regulated. Not Reddit just to mention, I cannot get my head around the setup of posts there, but no matter.

    It must be terror of litigation, but surely that could be offset by a statement or something by the owners, but this is Ireland, litigation central, sorry forgot, so we are muzzled forever.
    Unfortunately, and I'm certainly no legal expert, but my understanding is the legal position in Ireland is particularly challenging for sites like Boards, and those who do have a financial interest have decreed they would rather the site and it's users be safe than sorry. Ultimately that is their call, and nothing to do with Mods, CMods or Admins


  • #506
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Lnr84 wrote: »
    Shame really enjoy proper discussion not just slagging matches

    Not really allowed if you deviate from the perceived wisdom though :P


  • #507
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Is boards.ie well known in general? Would your family or friends have accounts on it or even have heard of it? I don't think anybody in my family is aware of it. A handful of my friends would have accounts (or used to) but I think the majority of people I know would be unaware or indifferent to the site.


  • #508
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Beasty wrote: »
    Unfortunately, and I'm certainly no legal expert, but my understanding is the legal position in Ireland is particularly challenging for sites like Boards, and those who do have a financial interest have decreed they would rather the site and it's users be safe than sorry. Ultimately that is their call, and nothing to do with Mods, CMods or Admins

    I accept that Ireland is a litigious country and people or entities can be sued at the drop of a hat.

    It is a tough call and we are stifled in debate as a result.


  • #509
    Permabear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39,019 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • #510
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Is boards.ie well known in general? Would your family or friends have accounts on it or even have heard of it? I don't think anybody in my family is aware of it. A handful of my friends would have accounts (or used to) but I think the majority of people I know would be unaware or indifferent to the site.

    I think it depends on the forum. I reckon well over half the cycling community in Ireland know of me and my Boards connection. At work I think maybe 20% have had accounts at some stage. I have not introduced my family to the site - they may pick up on it at some stage - maybe I'll provide a link in my will and they can learn about all my exploits when I'm gone:pac:


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  • #511
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.
    You approach the owners and ask if they are interested in selling an interest. Not done it myself, although maybe they will come knocking on my door some day asking for a sub:)


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