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The slow death of forums *see OP for Admin warning and update 28/02/18*

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  • #452
    Jobs OXO
    Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    looksee wrote: »
    Well no, the community have been quite quiet in fact. Currently there are around 4.5k posters on the site, 1.5k are registered. On this thread, in AH, there have been what - maybe 20 people going on and on negatively. I might be out a bit with that number, I haven't counted. But one post arguing positively got over 160 thanks, so it isn't really all going your way.

    And now you are reduced to silly arguments about personality disorders and no status. How childish is that?

    Of course the community is quiet - FEEDBACK FORUM IS NO MORE


  • #453
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Too many forums (fora) many of which are totally under utilised or dead in fact now.

    Searching is impossible.

    Mods can be heavy handed (I've been the recipient) but sometimes the berating one gets in the carding message is schoolmarmish and totally belittling, although I just took my medicine and moved on. Bad day, bad night, there are lots of reasons people can be out of sorts. Simple message needed - You broke the forum charter, we do not invite trolls or something like that, simple, a one liner. One week or whatever ban from this forum. End of, instead of a lecture. The lecturing is unnecessary.

    Sigh, probably get another card for this. But anyway.

    Other than that it's ok. I like certain fora, but AH is a big draw, it is so mad sometimes and can be very amusing.

    Having been the recipient of a few cards in my time I know the drill. I will accept my fate, never question the reasons, never have done. But once again, please do not belittle or lecture me.

    Now where were we?


  • #454
    Del.Monte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Wow, waded through 453 posts to get here - admittedly skimming many - but I now feel entitled to post something.

    While I agree with the need for moderation it needs to be applied with some degree of uniformity. Some Mods are great and appear interested in their forums whereas others - most noticeably in the Northern Ireland Regional forums seem happy to preside over a wasteland. I raised this issue years back under another name and was put back in my box by several Mods - why would I bother raising it again?

    Another forum which I now seldom post in, and which should be thriving, has been wrecked by a Mod who insisted on compartmentalising everything with the result that all discussion was killed off. He is no longer a Mod and doesn't even post on Boards any more.

    Another forum which I posted a lot on under another username I used to get a dog's abuse and rarely any action taken, whereas if I stepped out of line it was yellow and red cards all day.

    On balance I find Boards very useful and I have even made money from some tips here, but it could be so much better. :)

    ****



  • #455
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,523 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    McCrack wrote: »
    An internet usage policy will come into play there

    which would also cut out a mod modding on work time.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #456
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Mountainsandh wrote: »

    I think it would stand to an entity such as Boards that they were open enough to allow debate on thorny or delicate issues rather than align to the bland, filtered discourse we're fed daily on Irish media.

    Totally agree.

    It would be so refreshing to see the other side of a debate, for example about Travellers, but that seems to be shut down immediately IMO. Why I do not know, but there we are.

    Seems to me the minute the T word is mentioned it is batten down the hatches pronto!

    I do accept that hate speak is not nice either, but a reasonable debate about such issues should be allowed to continue as long as it is not ranty and is measured. Such issues affect us all. Either by tax contributions or otherwise, and I won't elaborate further here, not the right thread.

    There are many more examples I just used Travellers as a pointer.


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  • #457
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    Reiterating a post I made earlier in the thread but I don't get this whole “you only see one side of the argument” thing. The traveller threads - there are plenty of comments representative of all angles of the argument.

    When people say only one view is allowed, they seem to be saying left-wing views. That’s nonsense, frankly. I’ve gained much of my understanding of right-wing politics and viewpoints because of reading AH extensively. If only left-wing opinion was allowed, how could that be?

    Claiming that only one viewpoint is allowed comes across as martyrdom.


  • #458
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    _Dara_ wrote: »
    Reiterating a post I made earlier in the thread but I don't get this whole “you only see one side of the argument” thing. The traveller threads - there are plenty of comments representative of all angles of the argument.

    When people say only one view is allowed, they seem to be saying left-wing views. That’s nonsense, frankly. I’ve gained much of my understanding of right-wing politics and viewpoints because of reading AH extensively. If only left-wing opinion was allowed, how could that be?

    Claiming that only one viewpoint is allowed comes across as martyrdom.

    How you know anything about right wing politics on this site is beyond me, but I would welcome a steer on that.

    Probably not the correct thread here, but start one yourself maybe on your theme.


  • #459
    bloodless_coup
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭bloodless_coup


    TheAnalyst_ wrote: »
    Look I'll explain.

    If I was a mod and a normal thinking person reading this thread then I would pack it in straight away. You see that the website is dying. Why are you putting in your free time for a private business. The community? But the community have been very vocal in saying the modding is killing the site. So you put in all this work for people that don't even want it and actively dislike it. Any reasonable person would walk away but I think mods tend to have a certain personality. Maybe a personality disorder that they want some status or control in self contained environment because maybe they have no status in the real world.

    Why would I want to work with a person like that?

    I passive aggressively thanked the **** out of that post.


  • #460
    NollagShona
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭NollagShona


    Labelling all travellers as one to generalise isn’t a debate - it’s generalising and soap boxing. Like the anti Muslim Refugee threads here, blind eye turned to the most bigoted hateful posts - all in the name of free speech and balance - I typed boards into twitter and Right Wing extremist groups were referring people to it as a place- they could preach their Hate Speech freely.


  • #461
    McCrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭McCrack


    end of the road wrote: »
    which would also cut out a mod modding on work time.

    Im not convinced it would where a mod has a commitment to boards.ie to be a moderator


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  • #462
    Discodog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    looksee wrote: »
    Well no, the community have been quite quiet in fact. Currently there are around 4.5k posters on the site, 1.5k are registered. On this thread, in AH, there have been what - maybe 20 people going on and on negatively. I might be out a bit with that number, I haven't counted. But one post arguing positively got over 160 thanks, so it isn't really all going your way.

    And now you are reduced to silly arguments about personality disorders and no status. How childish is that?

    Yes. People aren't complaining, they are disappearing.

    boards total posts per year
    2017 3,123,577
    2016 3,348,994
    2015 4,048,985
    2014 4,748,112
    2013 4,935,597
    2012 5,308,684
    2011 5,618,076
    2010 5,330,972
    2009 4,610,143


  • #463
    Permabear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39,019 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • #464
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Discodog wrote: »
    Yes. People aren't complaining, they are disappearing.

    boards total posts per year
    2017 3,123,577
    2016 3,348,994
    2015 4,048,985
    2014 4,748,112
    2013 4,935,597
    2012 5,308,684
    2011 5,618,076
    2010 5,330,972
    2009 4,610,143

    Much the same on all forums of this kind. Facebook etc. have taken the interest of many would be posters.


  • #465
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    For anyone who hates the boards search facility, just use google and restrict the search to boards.ie 
    site:boards.ie wibble
    replace wibble with your actual search word(s) (it actually produced over 140 hits :P)


  • #466
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    NollagShona wrote: »
    Labelling all travellers as one to generalise isn’t a debate - it’s generalising and soap boxing. Like the anti Muslim Refugee threads here, blind eye turned to the most bigoted hateful posts - all in the name of free speech and balance - I typed boards into twitter and Right Wing extremist groups were referring people to it as a place- they could preach their Hate Speech freely.

    That a little harsh although if I was of a cynical mind: I have noticed a lot of feminazi, anti Muslim, emigration type thread were suddenly giving a very broad leeway on AH as if someone was deliberately trying to stir things up to increase traffic on the site.


  • #467
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    I'm sure that 2017 figure must have gone up since this thread started:confused:

    ...and we still have a day left:confused:


    :pac:

    (I get higher figures for all years but that's because I have access to non-public forums)


  • #468
    gandalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    Yep I believe we all hoped as much as well but as you said it hasn't transpired at all. It's almost like the management are hiding from the users. BTW before some get their knickers in a twist I mean the paid management staff and not most of the mods. I'm unsure what actual input the admins have anymore as it looks to me from the outside that the whip is cracked in HQ.


  • #469
    bloodless_coup
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭bloodless_coup


    Discodog wrote: »
    Yes. People aren't complaining, they are disappearing.

    And many that do complain are forcefully disappeared.

    I've been banned for 2 days, 1 week and 2 weeks from after hours. I think the next is a month and after that permanent. All for jokes / tounge in cheek statements some humourless easily offended mod took exception to. No point in questioning it, you hit a brick wall.


  • #470
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    doylefe wrote: »
    No point in questioning it, you hit a brick wall.
    But you are questioning it by posting here. You should only do that firstly with the mod, and then in the DRP, where both sides can be aired


  • #471
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,046 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Have seen 2 threads shut down in last 24 hrs, one with less than 100 posts, the other I think less than 130 or so.

    Each of the above were progressing without any real difficulties or animosity and had frequent posts from a number of contributors but seemingly they needed to be shut down.

    Don't know how boards can thrive in such a place if this will be the routine.


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  • #472
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    I don't see the left right wing stuff at all. loads of left wing stuff.
    I just did a online test to see where I was left right. I consider myself right wing but it tells me I'm slightly let of centre (the horror, LOL). if my views are considered centre then I'm afraid to see what far right is. I see no right wing stuff. and if it starts it is shut down sharpish


  • #473
    Del.Monte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Here's the thread relating to lack of activity in NI Forums that I referred to previously: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056205488

    Just had a look at the Antrim Forum tonight - most recent post 2/1/2017 and the post before that 18/9/2016 - need I say more. :(

    ****



  • #474
    trellheim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭trellheim


    But you are questioning it by posting here. You should only do that firstly with the mod, and then in the DRP, where both sides can be aired

    Surely a general issue with regard to moderation policy is relevant to whether or not you use Boards.ie and how people might view the site and recommend it to others ?


  • #475
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    I don't see the left right wing stuff at all. loads of left wing stuff.
    I just did a online test to see where I was left right. I consider myself right wing but it tells me I'm slightly let of centre (the horror, LOL). if my views are considered centre then I'm afraid to see what far right is. I see no right wing stuff. and if it starts it is shut down sharpish

    Right wing here is anything that is not totally Left wing liberal and let the taxpayer/working people pay for everything but do not attempt to criticise anyone outside that cohort at all.

    Many are working their socks off to have a house and one or if lucky two kids. But if anyone criticises those who are claiming from the State and have loads of kids it is a shut up kind of thing.

    We can be right wing in financial things, but left wing in social things. That is probably a left of centre ideology.

    I can see cards left right and centre (ha ha) before too long here.

    But debate and discussion moves on doesn't it. Or is that not allowed now either.


  • #476
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Right wing here is anything that is not totally Left wing liberal and let the taxpayer/working people pay for everything but do not attempt to criticise anyone outside that cohort at all.

    Many are working their socks off to have a house and one or if lucky two kids. But if anyone criticises those who are claiming from the State and have loads of kids it is a shut up kind of thing.

    We can be right wing in financial things, but left wing in social things. That is probably a left of centre ideology.

    I can see cards left right and centre (ha ha) before too long here.

    But debate and discussion moves on doesn't it. Or is that not allowed now either.

    ah I get it now . ironically it took a different set of eyes for me to see it :D:D:D


  • #477
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    ah I get it now . ironically it took a different set of eyes for me to see it :D:D:D

    I'm sure you know well what your left/right ideology is without me having to say it

    Happy New Year anyway :D


  • #478
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    trellheim wrote: »
    Surely a general issue with regard to moderation policy is relevant to whether or not you use Boards.ie and how people might view the site and recommend it to others ?

    It's not a general issue. The poster is referring to quite specific mod actions, which are not the topic of this thread, and where we have only one side of the story


  • #479
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    I'm sure you know well what your left/right ideology is without me having to say it

    Happy New Year anyway :D

    pm me with it. I'm genuinely trying to work it out. I think I have medium level opinions from both sides that are averaging out


  • #480
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Have seen 2 threads shut down in last 24 hrs, one with less than 100 posts, the other I think less than 130 or so.

    Each of the above were progressing without any real difficulties or animosity and had frequent posts from a number of contributors but seemingly they needed to be shut down.

    Don't know how boards can thrive in such a place if this will be the routine.
    Don't know if you are referring to this forum or elsewhere, but I've already provided background to the single closure I can find in AH over the last 24 hours. If you are unsure why threads were closed, did you ask the relevant mod(s)?


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  • #481
    boombang
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭boombang


    Zoey Famous Aftershave wrote: »
    Poor example. The OP said they had gotten the answers they wanted and would not be back to it.

    Not in my opinion. The thread is of interest to more than the OP.


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