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colm_mcm · 28-12-2017 11:01PM

The 1.2 didn't come with a turbo, so I can only assume it's had the mechanicals from the 2015 ST transplanted too, which would have been 180bhp standard.

I would find it hard to believe that someone would do effectively a reshell and still get it serviced in a Ford dealer.

pablo128 · 28-12-2017 11:07PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

The 1.2 didn't come with a turbo, so I can only assume it's had the mechanicals from the 2015 ST transplanted too, which would have been 180bhp standard.

I would find it hard to believe that someone would do effectively a reshell and still get it serviced in a Ford dealer.

Remarkably, the tax band doesn't change on a post 08 car if you change the engine for a completely different one. It's a little known advantage of the new system.

mullingar · 28-12-2017 11:08PM

I'd say it got a full subframe/engine swap from a cat B Fiesta ST.

I wonder is it still a 1.2 "on da book"

theteal · 28-12-2017 11:13PM

Top Dog wrote: »

Perhaps someone can help me out here?

I don't know if this deserves to be here, but the claim of 240bhp from a 1.2 with just a filter/exhaust/intercooler/remap has me scratching my head. Is it actually possible that the power claim could be legit? Surely not?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-fiesta-st-full-replica-240bhp/17588676

Those portrait photos hurt my brain :mad::mad::mad:

bear1 · 29-12-2017 03:32AM

pablo128 wrote: »

Remarkably, the tax band doesn't change on a post 08 car if you change the engine for a completely different one. It's a little known advantage of the new system.

But surely declaring that it has a different engine would result in the tax being paid based on the co2 of the donor engine?

E36Ross · 29-12-2017 09:54AM

It's originally a 1.2 and has been just VRT as a 1.2

So someone put a 1.2 shell beside an ST and swapped EVERYTHING over including wiring looms for heated seats, clocks, interior, ECU door locks/keys etc... Brakes and everything else mechanical........

Avatar MIA · 29-12-2017 09:58AM

E36Ross wrote: »

It's originally a 1.2 and has been just VRT as a 1.2

So someone put a 1.2 shell beside an ST and swapped EVERYTHING over including wiring looms for heated seats, clocks etc... Brakes and everything else mechanical OR

Isn't the key word from the ad - REPLICA?

I.e. it's still a 1.2 litre car made to look like the 240 BHP version. as in Fur coat no Knickers.

E36Ross · 29-12-2017 10:00AM

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Isn't the key word from the ad - REPLICA?

I.e. it's still a 1.2 litre car made to look like the 240 BHP version. as in Fur coat no Knickers.

Nope... It is a 240bhp ST.

colm_mcm · 29-12-2017 10:11AM

bear1 wrote: »

But surely declaring that it has a different engine would result in the tax being paid based on the co2 of the donor engine?

Well no. The Co2 isn't calculated on the engine itself, but on the particular specs of the car from the factory. Any deviation from standard engine should put the car on €2350 tax rate really.

liam7831 · 29-12-2017 10:20AM

grahambo wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/evo-x-fq300-sst/17309976

10 year old Evo X FQ-300.... Pushing 90,000 miles. Yours for just €22,000! (This is a price drop btw!!!) :eek:

Love the line: Pics dont do the car justice... That's probably because the pictures are dreadful and so is the Ad

Nice car and all, I'm back in the market for an Evo X but this is about €7,000 overpriced.

You could get a similar car in from the UK, VRT paid and all for €15,000.

I think it's reasonable price, any examples of an FQ300 SST cleared for €15K ?

JohnBoy26 · 29-12-2017 06:20PM

bear1 wrote: »

But surely declaring that it has a different engine would result in the tax being paid based on the co2 of the donor engine?

Co2 isn't just determined by the engine. The car plays a major part as well so having that engine fitted to another car will yield a different co2 output.

colm_mcm · 30-12-2017 12:02PM

€4150 for a 12 year old A3 a bit strong?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2006-audi-a3-1-9-tdi/17160759?campaign=8

bear1 · 30-12-2017 12:10PM

Yes.

liam7831 · 30-12-2017 01:32PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

€4150 for a 12 year old A3 a bit strong?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2006-audi-a3-1-9-tdi/17160759?campaign=8

Ya I'd say about €2250 be more realistic

emeldc · 30-12-2017 01:47PM

What's with some of these lads with all the sideways pictures. Do they think it makes it look sportier or quicker or something

colm_mcm · 30-12-2017 01:55PM

emeldc wrote: »

What's with some of these lads with all the sideways pictures. Do they think it makes it look sportier or quicker or something

I think it's a snapchat thing?

coolbeans · 30-12-2017 06:24PM

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-tt-1-8turbo-quattro-unique/11138358

A unique TT for all the wrong reasons. Shame, it'd be one of the nicer ones for sale at the moment if it weren't for the mutilation.

colm_mcm · 30-12-2017 06:39PM

That's a veteran of the motors forum!

StereoSound · 31-12-2017 01:22PM

coolbeans wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-tt-1-8turbo-quattro-unique/11138358

A unique TT for all the wrong reasons. Shame, it'd be one of the nicer ones for sale at the moment if it weren't for the mutilation.

I love the freshly tipexxed timing belt @123k nonsense. We all know thats probably bull unless he has as a proper receipt.

Toots · 31-12-2017 02:52PM

liam7831 wrote: »

I think it's reasonable price, any examples of an FQ300 SST cleared for €15K ?

What's with this "no cash, no drive" thing? So if someone wants to test drive this yoke they're supposed to show up with 22k in a tesco bag or something???

h3000 · 31-12-2017 02:59PM

Toots wrote: »

What's with this "no cash, no drive" thing? So if someone wants to test drive this yoke they're supposed to show up with 22k in a tesco bag or something???

I’ve seen people selling cars and would only allow “test drives” with them (the current owner) driving the car and the potential buyers as passengers. There is no way I’d buy a car without test driving it.

I will say though that I can have some sympathy for people selling cars like that. I’m sure you really do get people turning up just to take the car for a tear.

vintagevrs · 31-12-2017 04:52PM

It's probably a good excuse to tell someone to slide on. Seller should know when a legitimate buyer wants a test drive. I'm sure no bag of cash needed.

DaveyDave · 31-12-2017 11:08PM

emeldc wrote: »

What's with some of these lads with all the sideways pictures. Do they think it makes it look sportier or quicker or something

One of his legs is shorter than the other!

Squidgy Black · 01-01-2018 12:33AM

Toots wrote: »

What's with this "no cash, no drive" thing? So if someone wants to test drive this yoke they're supposed to show up with 22k in a tesco bag or something???

It's generally to stop timewasters, you get a lot of young lads who've no interest in buying the car showing up just to get the chance to drive one, then when they get back from rallying it around say they're not interested.

Panjandrums · 01-01-2018 01:32AM

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Beta Ray Bill · 02-01-2018 09:41AM

liam7831 wrote: »

I think it's reasonable price, any examples of an FQ300 SST cleared for €15K ?

SST FQ-300 with 63,000 miles: £12,750/€14351 + €983 VRT = €15334

SST FQ-300 with 45,000 miles: £13990/€15747+ €983 VRT = €16730

SST FQ-300 with 78,000 miles: £12,750/€14351 + €983 VRT = €15334

And that's only after a very quick google. If you were prepared to import for Japan you'd save even more.

Mind you, I'd be looking for a Manual rather than an SST.

Toots wrote: »

What's with this "no cash, no drive" thing? So if someone wants to test drive this yoke they're supposed to show up with 22k in a tesco bag or something???

Gas isn't it?
It's 10 years old like! :rolleyes:

EDIT: I think the CRT calc might be wrong.

liam7831 · 02-01-2018 11:05AM

grahambo wrote: »

SST FQ-300 with 63,000 miles: £12,750/€14351 + €983 VRT = €15334

SST FQ-300 with 45,000 miles: £13990/€15747+ €983 VRT = €16730

SST FQ-300 with 78,000 miles: £12,750/€14351 + €983 VRT = €15334

And that's only after a very quick google. If you were prepared to import for Japan you'd save even more.

Mind you, I'd be looking for a Manual rather than an SST.

Gas isn't it?
It's 10 years old like! :rolleyes:

EDIT: I think the CRT calc might be wrong.

Your VRT is wrong

Beta Ray Bill · 02-01-2018 11:42AM

liam7831 wrote: »

Your VRT is wrong

Yup

They only have 2.0L Sport on the VRT website, No Evo X
Let me see if they have a IX, good comparison

Edit:

Revenue website doesn't have a selectable option for any Evo's.

OMSP based on owners asking price:
Ad says he paid over 8k for VRT, doesn't say how long he has owned the car though.
At €22,000 34% is approx €7,480, given €22,000 is the OMSP of the car according to revenue. (It might be more or less, who knows)

So turns out the car is sensibly priced. However given the mileage, type of car it's going to be exceptionally difficult to sell in Ireland.
I took a massive hit when I sold me Evo V years back, was for sale for nearly a year before I luckily got €8.5K having only spent €15.5k on it 2.5 years previous to that.

Having done some research over the Xmas, I wouldn't bother me hole getting back into Evo's (or Focus RS, or Type R's, etc) Seem the UK market is demanding huge money for sports cars, this is turn is reflecting badly on the Irish market.

millington · 04-01-2018 01:52PM

All Evos are gone off the VRT website, I've heard of anything from 3-10k for Evos from 5-9 so I wouldn't like to do a 10!

Titzon Toast · 23-01-2018 08:27PM

Looks nice and clean but 6k?

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/classic-1994-bmw-e36-msport-320i/17272163

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