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Scum cause bad crash on N7 thankfully only scum injured

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    I've been here so many years now, but this still stuns me.

    A piece of news breaks, with some minimum of information on various news sites. But many residents of AH have an absolutely uncanny ability to read so much more information and so many more details that must be hidden somewhere between the lines, invisible to a naive little non-native like me. They can tell you the exact details of the incident, down to the family history of everyone involved up to 4 generations back, as well as their shoe size, star signs and leaving cert results.
    Simply amazing, everytime.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Jesus wept.

    That’s the current prevailing atmosphere in the country at the moment,
    Everyone else is responsible and guilty except the criminal.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My father worked as a Dublin firefighter for 30 plus years and the disgust he'd have attending scenes like this. He's a tough resilient man and has been in situations you or I couldn't imagine. My mother told me the only thing that ever effected him greatly was an accident to do with trapped children. He cried for nearly two days before when he attended as a first responder where a toddler was paralysed in a car crash that was the fault of idiots like these. So forgive me if I have a little chuckle at the thought of this dirtbird laid up in hospital (which we'll pay for, though) for the New Year fighting for his pathetic life. He'll never offer anything to society. Nothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Shenshen wrote: »
    I've been here so many years now, but this still stuns me.

    A piece of news breaks, with some minimum of information on various news sites. But many residents of AH have an absolutely uncanny ability to read so much more information and so many more details that must be hidden somewhere between the lines, invisible to a naive little non-native like me. They can tell you the exact details of the incident, down to the family history of everyone involved up to 4 generations back, as well as their shoe size, star signs and leaving cert results.
    Simply amazing, everytime.

    The exact details of the incident are in a news report I linked on the previous page. Have a read of it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭Negative_G


    It's a pity the scumbags car didn't go up in flames.

    Remember, these are the type of people who bully, intimidate and assault ordinary law abiding citizens.

    They are nothing more than the pond scum of society and deserve to be treated as such as a consequence of their actions.

    The usual do-gooders are here already spreading their rhetoric. Maybe someday when some of their ilk break into your home, or better yet, break into your parents/grandparents home and beat them to within an inch of their life, maybe then your eyes will open.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    pablo128 wrote: »
    Are you from Pavee Point?

    I deleted my post, given some brief consideration, but here it is again:
    The people in the car who caused the crash are 100% to blame

    All occupants, and 100%?
    I am not happy one of them is in a serious condition however I have zero sympathy for them either as they had zero regard for other road users.

    Will you be giving a statement?

    I'm far from Pavee Point, just wondering why AGS bothered doing an investigation when AH / The Sun have already established the facts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭mightybashful


    Shenshen wrote: »
    I've been here so many years now, but this still stuns me.

    A piece of news breaks, with some minimum of information on various news sites. But many residents of AH have an absolutely uncanny ability to read so much more information and so many more details that must be hidden somewhere between the lines, invisible to a naive little non-native like me. They can tell you the exact details of the incident, down to the family history of everyone involved up to 4 generations back, as well as their shoe size, star signs and leaving cert results.
    Simply amazing, everytime.

    Seen them first hand. You wouldn't invite them round for dinner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Shenshen wrote: »
    I've been here so many years now, but this still stuns me.

    A piece of news breaks, with some minimum of information on various news sites. But many residents of AH have an absolutely uncanny ability to read so much more information and so many more details that must be hidden somewhere between the lines, invisible to a naive little non-native like me. They can tell you the exact details of the incident, down to the family history of everyone involved up to 4 generations back, as well as their shoe size, star signs and leaving cert results.
    Simply amazing, everytime.

    I doubt you have that bit right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Jimbob1977 wrote: »
    The Gardai will probably get criticised for pursuing the vehicle and endangering the general public.

    And the obligatory GSOC investigation when it's obvious what happened.

    You can be sure the family of the guy seriously injured in hospital are blaming the Gardai.
    The Garda brutality is both illegal and discriminatory.


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  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Negative_G wrote: »
    The usual do-gooders are here already spreading their rhetoric. Maybe someday when some of their ilk break into your home, or better yet, break into your parents/grandparents home and beat them to within an inch of their life, maybe then your eyes will open.

    They'd probably blame themselves for having nice things worth robbing in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭Negative_G


    Omackeral wrote: »
    They'd probably blame themselves for having nice things worth robbing in the first place.

    Probably. Idiots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Omackeral wrote: »
    They'd probably blame themselves for having nice things worth robbing in the first place.

    True.
    What socialism boils down to really is the comical notion that if I have €10 and you have €5 omackeral then firstly, I shouldnt have €10 and secondly, it’s not enough that I share my €10 with you, I have to give you the whole €10, for having the cheek to earn €10 in the first place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 mikeweird


    Would they have targetted this specific house beforehand travelling from Dublin to Athy

    Or would they be on the prowl?

    It seems to be the door to door types feeding the information to the gangs, probably using GPS too to get the exact location


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,914 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    In the USA if you drive away from a police stop like that you will most likely be fired on.
    These guys might be feeling sorry for themselves but they are alive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    elperello wrote: »
    In the USA if you drive away from a police stop like that you will most likely be fired on.

    Do you agree with that though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    These scumbags use the roadways to escape ......I live fairly near to this incident...and had the same a few years ago...lone female in the house early am with someone kicking your front door and thought they’d be away down the N7 ......Hope they die roaring as someone else said!

    Guards told me what the plan was, away down the n7 before anyone copped on,

    Garda station abolished in the town so lots of time to escape.

    Guards said dodgy accent was a deterrent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    thee glitz wrote: »
    Do you agree with that though?

    If it prevents other innocent road users being killed or injured, then yes, of course.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mikeweird wrote: »
    Would they have targetted this specific house beforehand travelling from Dublin to Athy

    Or would they be on the prowl?

    It seems to be the door to door types feeding the information to the gangs, probably using GPS too to get the exact location

    The motorway network to and from Dublin is a god send for these scumbuckets.


  • Posts: 16,208 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    They were stopped on suspicion of being part of a burglary. Any real connection has yet to be proved.

    However, they were stopped by the Gardai and did try to escape after the Gardai stepped out of their own car. As far as I can see, avoiding the police is the only crime capable of being proven at this stage. Since you're concerned with facts. ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 749 ✭✭✭EmptyTree


    elperello wrote: »
    In the USA if you drive away from a police stop like that you will most likely be fired on.

    This is simply not the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    They were stopped on suspicion of being part of a burglary. Any real connection has yet to be proved.

    However, they were stopped by the Gardai and did try to escape after the Gardai stepped out of their own car. As far as I can see, avoiding the police is the only crime capable of being proven at this stage. Since you're concerned with facts. ;)

    Quick search of the boot will have upped the anti I’d imagine.
    Unless you want to argue that they’ve borrowed the car.
    Or borrowed whatever is in the boot.
    I understand any lengths of the imagination will be stretched in order to exonerate certain citizens from any blame.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Doltanian


    If we had a proper country the gardai would have shot every one of them dead and asked questions after. Scum like this deserve the bullet and nothing less, I know a few lads who own legally held firearms and everyone of them would shoot to kill scum like this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 749 ✭✭✭EmptyTree


    splinter65 wrote: »
    thee glitz wrote: »
    Do you agree with that though?

    If it prevents other innocent road users being killed or injured, then yes, of course.

    This is more likely to result in an innocent road user being killed or injured by a stray round.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,817 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    anewme wrote: »
    These scumbags use the roadways to escape ......I live fairly near to this incident...and had the same a few years ago...lone female in the house early am with someone kicking your front door and thought they’d be away down the N7 ......Hope they die roaring as someone else said!

    Guards told me what the plan was, away down the n7 before anyone copped on,

    Garda station abolished in the town so lots of time to escape.

    Guards said dodgy accent was a deterrent

    Most of the stations which were closed were only token presences. Was that one open 24 hours a day?

    Of the stations to be closed, 98 per cent are currently open part-time, 94 per cent are open for 3 hours or less each day and 88 per cent are served by one garda member.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    They were stopped on suspicion of being part of a burglary. Any real connection has yet to be proved.

    However, they were stopped by the Gardai and did try to escape after the Gardai stepped out of their own car. As far as I can see, avoiding the police is the only crime capable of being proven at this stage. Since you're concerned with facts. ;)

    Failure to stop is not the only crime under the Road Traffic Acts.

    You'll have to think harder if you are going to play armchair legal eagle.

    ;)


  • Posts: 16,208 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    You were the one claiming the importance of a "fact"... that wasn't a fact.

    Oh, I'm sure they will be found guilty of being involved. However, I'll still prefer innocent until proven guilty. Speculation isn't an indication of fact though.
    splinter65 wrote: »
    Quick search of the boot will have upped the anti I’d imagine.
    Unless you want to argue that they’ve borrowed the car.
    Or borrowed whatever is in the boot.
    I understand any lengths of the imagination will be stretched in order to exonerate certain citizens from any blame.

    Hardly related to what I objected to. (As usual.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Most of the stations which were closed were only token presences. Was that one open 24 hours a day?

    Of the stations to be closed, 98 per cent are currently open part-time, 94 per cent are open for 3 hours or less each day and 88 per cent are served by one garda member.

    We had one Garda member (who in fairness was very active in the community) and a station and once that was gone, we were a free for all for scumbags such as these.

    As someone who these scumbags have tried to target, I’d be delighted to see them all burn.

    People are too soft in general in relation to this stuff.

    Hateful scum. Death penalty for those who prey on the old.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,087 ✭✭✭UrbanFret




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