Homeless man dies in fire Nenagh

Grab All Association · 22-12-2017 01:25AM #1

Nenagh Gardaí are currently investigating a serious fire in a derelict premises on Kenyon Street in the North Tipperary town, which cost one man his life.

The blaze was discovered in the early hours of this morning, and the deceased, named locally as Mr Kryztof Sec, a homeless foreign national, has since been removed to Limerick Hospital, where a post-mortem is expected to take place today.

The fire broke out in a disused former public house and was reported by a passer-by at around 1.05am. Two units of Nenagh Fire Service, in conjunction with one Fire Service unit from Cloughjordan, Co. Tipperary, attended at the scene.

While fighting the blaze, fire fighters discovered the body of a man, believed to be in his late 40’s, within the precincts of the burning premises, while a second male; also within the premises at the time of the blaze, managed to escape with minor injuries, latter which were attended too at Limerick University hospital.

Firefighters attended the scene until 11.55am today and the building has since been sealed off by Gardaí for a technical examination, during which it is hoped the original cause of the fire can be established.

http://www.thurles.info/

And we don't have a homeless crisis in this country? According to a number of posters everyone's faking it for a "free" house. Pregnant mothers, Roma, drug users all wanting a free house.

Deepest sympathies to his family and friends. This state (yet again) has failed another person. Apart from Thurles.info and the Tipperary Star no other media outlet have reported this mans name. How quickly the story has disappeared off the Rté homepage.

Gatling · 22-12-2017 01:27AM

Grab All Association wrote: »

This state (yet again) has failed another person. Apart from Thurles.info and the Tipperary Star no other media outlet have reported this mans name. How quickly the story has disappeared off the Rté homepage.

How did the state fail exactly ,
I thought rte only hide iw protest stories

Grab All Association · 22-12-2017 01:30AM

Gatling wrote: »

How did the state fail exactly ,
I thought rte only hide iw protest stories

Word around town that the deceased was registered homeless and Tipperary County Council had known this.

King George VI · 22-12-2017 01:35AM

Why are you focusing on the fact that he was homeless? Yes the state does have a homeless problem but I don't think the fire broke out because of that.

wakka12 · 22-12-2017 01:44AM

This state provides incredibly well for its citizens. RIP to the guy. But we know nothing of his circumstances or why he's homeless, or that anyone is of fault for his death, much less the state.

Gatling · 22-12-2017 01:47AM

Grab All Association wrote: »

Word around town that the deceased was registered homeless

And...

Your Face · 22-12-2017 04:17AM

Whats your point OP?

Wheeliebin30 · 22-12-2017 04:41AM

Grab All Association wrote: »

http://www.thurles.info/

And we don't have a homeless crisis in this country? According to a number of posters everyone's faking it for a "free" house. Pregnant mothers, Roma, drug users all wanting a free house.

Deepest sympathies to his family and friends. This state (yet again) has failed another person. Apart from Thurles.info and the Tipperary Star no other media outlet have reported this mans name. How quickly the story has disappeared off the Rté homepage.

Rabble rabble , rabble rabble.

J.pilkington · 22-12-2017 07:23AM

Grab All Association wrote: »

Word around town that the deceased was registered homeless and Tipperary County Council had known this.

Dude, you have regurgitated local town gossip many times on boards where it’s regularly been proven to be lies. You seem to love a good gossip / scandal, perhaps refrain yourself from spreading gossip and let the poor man rest in peace.

EPAndlee · 22-12-2017 07:39AM

It's awful someone lost their but anytime a homeless person dies automatically it's the states fault. In fairness they choose to go in there. How did the fire start? Did they light a fire in there and it happen to get out of control

splinter65 · 22-12-2017 08:28AM

Grab All Association wrote: »

http://www.thurles.info/

And we don't have a homeless crisis in this country? According to a number of posters everyone's faking it for a "free" house. Pregnant mothers, Roma, drug users all wanting a free house.

Deepest sympathies to his family and friends. This state (yet again) has failed another person. Apart from Thurles.info and the Tipperary Star no other media outlet have reported this mans name. How quickly the story has disappeared off the Rté homepage.

You have no idea what this man was doing in this house, how he got in or why.
You have no idea what services were being offered to him by the various agencies and wether he was co operating with them or to what level.
I’m glad to see people getting tired of this rubbish.
It’s very sad to end up dying alone in these circumstances so far away from home, and sad for his family and friends at this time of the year in particular. RIP.

weldoninhio · 22-12-2017 09:55AM

Grab All Association wrote: »

http://www.thurles.info/

And we don't have a homeless crisis in this country? According to a number of posters everyone's faking it for a "free" house. Pregnant mothers, Roma, drug users all wanting a free house.

Deepest sympathies to his family and friends. This state (yet again) has failed another person. Apart from Thurles.info and the Tipperary Star no other media outlet have reported this mans name. How quickly the story has disappeared off the Rtomepage.

*Berates media for not reporting/caring about the poor man, pretends to care for same poor man only to score points on the Gubberment*

Congratulation on having the most ironic post on boards.

NIMAN · 22-12-2017 03:53PM

EPAndlee wrote: »

It's awful someone lost their but anytime a homeless person dies automatically it's the states fault. In fairness they choose to go in there. How did the fire start? Did they light a fire in there and it happen to get out of control

The Government gets dragged over the coals when a rough sleeper dies. Happened a few times now over the last couple of years.

That is despite them pumping hundreds of millions into the problem, providing a guaranteed bed for every rough sleeper every night if they want it.

Yet when someone refuses the bed and sleeps on the street and dies, the Government did nothing.

Will I Am Not · 22-12-2017 03:57PM

If you try really hard and delve back far enough, you can blame anything you want on the government.

Vizzy · 23-12-2017 10:34PM

Grab All Association wrote: »

Word around town that the deceased was registered homeless and Tipperary County Council had known this.

"Word around town", as you put it, is full of sh*te.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 24-12-2017 08:01AM

Housing is not a right. The State are under no obligation to house those who cannot provide for themselves.

You're supposed to be able to make your own way in life.

Wanderer78 · 24-12-2017 08:04AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote:

Housing is not a right. The State are under no obligation to house those who cannot provide for themselves.

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote:

You're supposed to be able to make your own way in life.

Thankfully we all have equal opportunities and life is on a level playing field for all!

carolmon · 24-12-2017 08:08AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Housing is not a right. The State are under no obligation to house those who cannot provide for themselves.

Housing people who cannot provide for themselves has always been a central job of government.
It's relatively recently that governments stopped funding/ building social housing.

I'd hate to see this "me fein" thinking take hold in Ireland among young people who maybe don't fully remember/ understand the concept of social housing in the Irish state.

Wheeliebin30 · 24-12-2017 09:29AM

carolmon wrote: »

Housing people who cannot provide for themselves has always been a central job of government.
It's relatively recently that governments stopped funding/ building social housing.

I'd hate to see this "me fein" thinking take hold in Ireland among young people who maybe don't fully remember/ understand the concept of social housing in the Irish state.

Link to the government stopping funding/building social housing?

I won't hold my breathe for it because you're straight from the aaa/pbp/ sinn fein full of ****e soundbite bolox.

Absolute lies.

splinter65 · 24-12-2017 09:58AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Thankfully we all have equal opportunities and life is on a level playing field for all!

Im interested in hearing from you how everyone in Ireland doesn’t have the same basic opportunities at birth, SW social housing, medical card, free school , third level grants etc.

Wheeliebin30 · 24-12-2017 10:08AM

splinter65 wrote: »

Im interested in hearing from you how everyone in Ireland doesn’t have the same basic opportunities at birth, SW social housing, medical card, free school , third level grants etc.

Da rich get richer, da gubberment, da bankers, da top 1%, blah blah poor me wah wah, feel sorry for me wah wah.

Absolute drivel.

Wanderer78 · 24-12-2017 10:38AM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Link to the government stopping funding/building social housing?

I won't hold my breathe for it because you're straight from the aaa/pbp/ sinn fein full of ****e soundbite bolox.

Absolute lies.

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Da rich get richer, da gubberment, da bankers, da top 1%, blah blah poor me wah wah, feel sorry for me wah wah.

Absolute drivel.

you folks have a lot of reading to be doing, christmas might be a good time to catch up on things. may be of some help to get you started:

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/

Wheeliebin30 · 24-12-2017 10:41AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

you folks have a lot of reading to be doing, christmas might be a good time to catch up on things. may be of some help to get you started:

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/

No I'll pass.

I'll use things I see around me daily to form my opinion.

Not some garbage some champagne socialist spews online.

server down · 24-12-2017 10:43AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Housing is not a right. The State are under no obligation to house those who cannot provide for themselves.

You're supposed to be able to make your own way in life.

If that were the case then we wouldn’t spend any money on social housing. But we do.

Wanderer78 · 24-12-2017 10:43AM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

No I'll pass.

I'll use things I see around me daily to form my opinion.

Not some garbage some champagne socialist spews online.

believe it or not, i actually think Marxism has its limitations to, and may not be relevant to modern society

server down · 24-12-2017 10:44AM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

No I'll pass.

I'll use things I see around me daily to form my opinion.

Not some garbage some champagne socialist spews online.

Debunking Economics. That’s another one.

server down · 24-12-2017 10:45AM

carolmon wrote: »

Housing people who cannot provide for themselves has always been a central job of government.
It's relatively recently that governments stopped funding/ building social housing.

I'd hate to see this "me fein" thinking take hold in Ireland among young people who maybe don't fully remember/ understand the concept of social housing in the Irish state.

I doubt if these guys represent anything other than a radical view confined to the internet. Certainly no political party agrees with them.

Wanderer78 · 24-12-2017 10:45AM

server down wrote: »

Debunking Economics. That’s another one.

Can We Avoid Another Financial Crisis? might be a good starting point before jumping into debunking though

server down · 24-12-2017 10:47AM

splinter65 wrote: »

Im interested in hearing from you how everyone in Ireland doesn’t have the same basic opportunities at birth, SW social housing, medical card, free school , third level grants etc.

Some people are born rich or middle class. Others poor or working class.

server down · 24-12-2017 10:49AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Can We Avoid Another Financial Crisis? might be a good starting point before jumping into debunking though

No it’s actually a book. From a guy who believes that (neo)classical economics is totally false.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debunking_Economics

Wanderer78 · 24-12-2017 10:51AM

server down wrote: »

No it’s actually a book. From a guy who believes that (neo)classical economics is totally false.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debunking_Economics

thank you, been following keen for some time, been lucky to see him in person at public debates. i suspect his latest book, Can We Avoid Another Financial Crisis? might be an easier read than his main book debunking.

Homeless man dies in fire Nenagh

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