Dairy chit chat II

mahoney_j · 22-12-2017 10:07PM

Cows dried off ,everything dosed for lice and worms over last 2 days ,half weanling heifers in other half out and out they’ll remain
7400 Ltrs and 590 kgms sold average milk price over 39 cent for year
Looking forward to break

Keepgrowing · 22-12-2017 10:27PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Dried off 32 more cows and housed last of weanlings, down to 3 rows till the end off Jan now

Down to 45 mins here.

Mooooo · 23-12-2017 10:44AM

Hydraulic hose burst on shear grab no answer from garage. Yeah Xmas is close alrite

Reggie. · 23-12-2017 11:27AM

Mooooo wrote: »

Hydraulic hose burst on shear grab no answer from garage. Yeah Xmas is close alrite

Any contractors near ya

Base price · 23-12-2017 11:29AM

Mooooo wrote: »

Hydraulic hose burst on shear grab no answer from garage. Yeah Xmas is close alrite

Can you rob one off another implement to tied you over.

whelan2 · 23-12-2017 11:34AM

Mooooo wrote: »

Hydraulic hose burst on shear grab no answer from garage. Yeah Xmas is close alrite

Scraper man can fix hydraulic hoses

blue5000 · 23-12-2017 11:41AM

Base price wrote: »

Can you rob one off another implement to tied you over.

Or something old with the big left hand thread nut that goes over the hose, us old lads had to do things the hard way before every shop and garage got a swaging machine for hydraulic hoses. Bad photo, but they look like this

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-4-Reusable-Hydraulic-Hose-Fittings-Male-1-8-NPT-x-3-3-16-Hose-NOS-/331774635599

leg wax · 23-12-2017 11:50AM

ah lads ,,,,,i have been working on my own condition score here for the last few weeks getting ready for the spring.....:D .....

Mooooo · 23-12-2017 11:53AM

Thanks for suggestions, lad answered there will be there till 12 so sorted. Neighbour has similar loader so our attachments would fit his and vice versa so wouldn't be stuck but don't like to be borrowing this week as wouldn't like to be disrupting whatever plan/ timetable he has himself

alps · 23-12-2017 11:58AM

Mooooo wrote: »

Hydraulic hose burst on shear grab no answer from garage. Yeah Xmas is close alrite

022 42825 Mallow, next to the beet factory are open till 1pm. But if a drive for you, but they are definitely open, just off the phone from yhem...oops...should have kept reading....sorted

Gawddawggonnit · 23-12-2017 12:15PM

Cops rang at 3am saying that my incalf heifers were out on a busy road...phuckin charolais suckler cows, so not mine.
Ended up giving them a hand. Locked them into a field of mine. Funny that nobody has claimed them yet. Lazy suckler farmers...!!

Bo dearg · 23-12-2017 12:17PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Cows dried off ,everything dosed for lice and worms over last 2 days ,half weanling heifers in other half out and out they’ll remain
7400 Ltrs and 590 kgms sold average milk price over 39 cent for year
Looking forward to break

Great results mahoney. Do you think 600kg solids is as far as you can go? And if you dont mind my asking how many kg of meal were they fed

freedominacup · 23-12-2017 12:21PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Thanks for suggestions, lad answered there will be there till 12 so sorted. Neighbour has similar loader so our attachments would fit his and vice versa so wouldn't be stuck but don't like to be borrowing this week as wouldn't like to be disrupting whatever plan/ timetable he has himself

Be sure to get two of them. Something we always have a spare of here is hoses for the sheargrab. One blew yesterday evening. Going again in five minutes. Got two made and replaced another that was looking a bit suspect this morning.

Reggie. · 23-12-2017 12:31PM

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Cops rang at 3am saying that my incalf heifers were out on a busy road...phuckin charolais suckler cows, so not mine.
Ended up giving them a hand. Locked them into a field of mine. Funny that nobody has claimed them yet. Lazy suckler farmers...!!

Young lad I'm due the Christmas phone call

mahoney_j · 23-12-2017 01:54PM

Bo dearg wrote: »

Great results mahoney. Do you think 600kg solids is as far as you can go? And if you dont mind my asking how many kg of meal were they fed

Ta 1.6 t fed in parlour ,more or less finished expanding for now and let herd mature ,.on a good grass year I don’t see why 650 plus is achievable on same meal

Mooooo · 23-12-2017 01:55PM

freedominacup wrote: »

Be sure to get two of them. Something we always have a spare of here is hoses for the sheargrab. One blew yesterday evening. Going again in five minutes. Got two made and replaced another that was looking a bit suspect this morning.

Yeah got two, nothing else in the yard has hoses that would fit the shear grab.

Keepgrowing · 23-12-2017 03:47PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Thanks for suggestions, lad answered there will be there till 12 so sorted. Neighbour has similar loader so our attachments would fit his and vice versa so wouldn't be stuck but don't like to be borrowing this week as wouldn't like to be disrupting whatever plan/ timetable he has himself

When going to shop bring back a spare

Keepgrowing · 23-12-2017 03:50PM

Why do guys quota output from milking block? Surely it should be from whole farm

mahoney_j · 23-12-2017 04:46PM

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Why do guys quota output from milking block? Surely it should be from whole farm

Milk block is where milk is produced ????,I don’t know with all the mickey waving figures thrown around these days hard to believe anything ,only figure that interests me is profit after tax and all bills paid and what’s sitting in my current account

Keepgrowing · 23-12-2017 05:11PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Milk block is where milk is produced ????,I don’t know with all the mickey waving figures thrown around these days hard to believe anything ,only figure that interests me is profit after tax and all bills paid and what’s sitting in my current account

Sorry I asked

Keepgrowing · 23-12-2017 05:40PM

My thinking on milking block opposed to whole farm is that young stock are reared on whole farm. Silage and increasingly zgrazer grass is coming off whole farm.

This can allow higher Sr.on milk block leading to inflated figures being quoted. The figures aren't wrong but don't tell the whole story. A lot of bought feed can also distort this figure.

That's all I meant

mahoney_j · 23-12-2017 05:42PM

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Sorry I asked

You asked I gave answer no offense meant jaysus

Injuryprone · 23-12-2017 06:06PM

Keepgrowing wrote: »

My thinking on milking block opposed to whole farm is that young stock are reared on whole farm. Silage and increasingly zgrazer grass is coming off whole farm.

This can allow higher Sr.on milk block leading to inflated figures being quoted. The figures aren't wrong but don't tell the whole story. A lot of bought feed can also distort this figure.

That's all I meant

Out farms are often also farmed less intensively but the fertiliser allowance transferred back to MP to pump more grass from there which also inflates the figures.

Keepgrowing · 23-12-2017 06:30PM

Injuryprone wrote: »

Out farms are often also farmed less intensively but the fertiliser allowance transferred back to MP to pump more grass from there which also inflates the figures.

Leading to the question I've in my head, is the milking block supporting the "support block", or vice versa.

All this land had a cost and guys increasingly want a land charge included in figures.

Base price · 23-12-2017 07:05PM

Injuryprone wrote: »

Out farms are often also farmed less intensively but the fertiliser allowance transferred back to MP to pump more grass from there which also inflates the figures.

I'm not well up on dairy or how ye calculate your litres/hectare/acre but I would assume that dry cows kept on a out farm would skew figures too.
Is rented land also included in the figures e.g. land used to grow silage/maize silage.

Timmaay · 23-12-2017 07:54PM

Base price wrote: »

I'm not well up on dairy or how ye calculate your litres/hectare/acre but I would assume that dry cows kept on a out farm would skew figures too.
Is rented land also included in the figures e.g. land used to grow silage/maize silage.

Yes definitely. All land associated with your dairy enterprise. Only land you could argue over would be for the likes of bought in maize or silage crops, you don't quote them in your financial/pm figures because you'll have costed the crop anyways, however it's slightly questionable to claim your stocked at 3lu/ha overall but on the other hand your buying in 100% of your winter feed.

All in all you need to be quite specific when quoting any per ha figures. It does sometimes turn into bit of a willy waving event, bit like the milk recorded/305day against milk delivered per year.

mahoney_j · 23-12-2017 08:01PM

Timmaay wrote: »

Yes definitely. All land associated with your dairy enterprise. Only land you could argue over would be for the likes of bought in maize or silage crops, you don't quote them in your financial/pm figures because you'll have costed the crop anyways, however it's slightly questionable to claim your stocked at 3lu/ha overall but on the other hand your buying in 100% of your winter feed.

All in all you need to be quite specific when quoting any per ha figures. It does sometimes turn into bit of a willy waving event, bit like the milk recorded/305day against milk delivered per year.

Hence my earlier comment only true figure is profit after tax and all bills etc accounted for ,that’s why I have little interest in cop or profit per he /liter etc cause none are true figures .so much other things going on with those figures and so many ways to skew them

Keepgrowing · 23-12-2017 08:36PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Hence my earlier comment only true figure is profit after tax and all bills etc accounted for ,that’s why I have little interest in cop or profit per he /liter etc cause none are true figures .so much other things going on with those figures and so many ways to skew them

All bought forage and feed is recorded in PM or should be

Keepgrowing · 23-12-2017 08:38PM

Base price wrote: »

I'm not well up on dairy or how ye calculate your litres/hectare/acre but I would assume that dry cows kept on a out farm would skew figures too.
Is rented land also included in the figures e.g. land used to grow silage/maize silage.

Imv all area should be included regardless of enterprise. It's the only way to know how you're going

Mooooo · 23-12-2017 11:06PM

Circa 750/ha with 19 acres maize bought in this year. Was at 975 last year. What do lads thinks a realistic target whole farm?

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