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Sean Gallagher awarded damages - ''tweetgate''

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    #2
    Subcomandante Marcos
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    I've no problem with rte paying for this. Whatever it cost it was one of the best pieces of public expenditure in recent years if it helped keep that cretin out of the park.


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    #3
    [Deleted User]
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    Seems fair enough, they pretty much scuppered his campaign using false information.

    The focus will be on Gallagher. The focus should be on RTE and every family in the country is obliged to pay to keep that bloated, bungling entity going...


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    Malayalam
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Seems fair enough, they pretty much scuppered his campaign using false information.

    The focus will be on Gallagher. The focus should be on RTE and every family in the country is obliged to pay to keep that bloated, bungling entity going...

    Yes, that's my take on it too. Regardless of skeletons or not in Gallagher's cupboard, it was false info that sank a campaign. Blatant political bias and undue influence from what is supposed to be the watchdog. Not that the fourth estate functions in that manner at all any more.


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    c_man
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    Heads should have rolled for that. Regardless of the candidate or election in question, having the state broadcaster using fake "news" to influence the vote is outrageous.


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    [Deleted User]
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    Has Gallagher ever made a cent that wasn't directly from the state coffers? He must be Ireland's ultimate welfare queen.

    To think that people actually voted for him. Jesus.


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    Sergio Georgini wrote: »
    Has Gallagher ever made a cent that wasn't directly from the state coffers? He must be Ireland's ultimate welfare queen.

    To think that people actually voted for him. Jesus.

    Did Michael D Higgins not work as a lecturer and career politician?

    Has he ever made a cent that was not from the state coffers?


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    c_man
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    Actually the one thing I did like about Sean G's campaign was that he didn't use posters. I hate election posters.


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    i71jskz5xu42pb
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    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    I've no problem with rte paying for this.

    You've no problem with the *license payer* paying for this


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    Malayalam
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    Sergio Georgini wrote: »
    Has Gallagher ever made a cent that wasn't directly from the state coffers? He must be Ireland's ultimate welfare queen.

    To think that people actually voted for him. Jesus.

    Logic is deficient here in the matter at hand. Regardless of what you think of Sean Gallagher - and 28% of the Irish people wanted him to be President, that's 28% more than ever wanted me or you to be President - the state broadcaster should not be allowed to unduly influence the public political process and democracy. If you wanted to act in some manner in a public capacity - however limited - how would you like if the public broadcaster carelessly (or perhaps even maliciously) impugned your reputation live on air in such a way that you could scarcely defend yourself? It's an attack at the root, see. Regardless of the personality involved.

    Maybe Gallagher experienced the original ''Fake News'' attack? :) Maybe it was the Russians.


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    #11
    tayto lover
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    It was still the most entertaining thing I watched on tv in years though.


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    Malayalam
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    It was still the most entertaining thing I watched on tv in years though.

    Haha yeah, it was a bit of a 'gasp' moment


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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Did Michael D Higgins not work as a lecturer and career politician?

    Has he ever made a cent that was not from the state coffers?

    As far as I was aware Michael D was an employee of the state providing excellent service as both a lecturer and representative, and not just creaming off "grant" money from his corrupt FF mates?

    Or am I missing a bit of the Michael D story? Is Michael D an "entrepreneur" too??

    Gallagher is indefensible. The only reason it affected him so badly was because he couldn't just say "that 100% never happened," because he wasn't bloody sure if it had or not. Up to his neck in it.


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    c_man
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    Sergio Georgini wrote: »
    Or am I missing a bit of the Michael D story? Is Michael D an "entrepreneur" too??

    He's certainly boosted the economy of the Aras, creating new positions which weren't there before, breaking the salary cap for numerous jobs and creating an "atmosphere" which has seen a high turn over in staff. Sounds like a capitalist entrepreneur to me :D


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    _Brian
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    Sergio Georgini wrote: »
    As far as I was aware Michael D was an employee of the state providing excellent service as both a lecturer and representative, and not just creaming off "grant" money from his corrupt FF mates?

    Or am I missing a bit of the Michael D story? Is Michael D an "entrepreneur" too??

    Gallagher is indefensible. The only reason it affected him so badly was because he couldn't just say "that 100% never happened," because he wasn't bloody sure if it had or not. Up to his neck in it.

    I agree.
    Gallagher obviously flinched when this was tweeted. Because he wasn’t sure which skeleton was being shook, now as it turned out it was a stab in the dark, but not far off the mark I’d say.


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    the_syco
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    From https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/rt-pays-sean-gallagher-substantial-damages-as-tweetgate-case-is-settled-36421036.html
    This related to a tweet read out by presenter Pat Kenny during the final televised debate of the campaign, prior to which Mr Gallagher was regarded as the frontrunner.
    If one tweet caused the frontrunner to fall flat on his face, I'd wonder how strong his campaign was?


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    WoollyRedHat
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    I often wondered if Sean polishes his head or does the camera just add a shine.


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    Sergio Georgini wrote: »
    As far as I was aware Michael D was an employee of the state providing excellent service as both a lecturer and representative, and not just creaming off "grant" money from his corrupt FF mates?

    Or am I missing a bit of the Michael D story? Is Michael D an "entrepreneur" too??

    Gallagher is indefensible. The only reason it affected him so badly was because he couldn't just say "that 100% never happened," because he wasn't bloody sure if it had or not. Up to his neck in it.

    I knew students of his who said he was lovely...but certainly were less than enamoured with him as a lecturer.

    Anyway, you assert he was an excellent lecturer and politician. Could you point to his achievements as a public representative so we can judge this excellence and see was he worth the amount he was paid decade after decade after decade...


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    #19
    toxicity234
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    Very important this result from democracy in Ireland.
    Kenny and RTE used a lie to take down and influence an election.

    And if you want to see the damage a lie can do, just read this thread.
    a lot of "no smoke without fire rubbish" around.

    I won't have voted for Gallagher but still ran a excellent campaign and the Idea that Kenny use a lie to take him down is shocking.
    Whatever about the night of the debate but the interview the following morning on the radio when the production team knew the Tweet was a lie and didn't make the correction.
    That did more damage to journalism in Ireland than any other program I ever seen.

    The production manager Laughing as Gallagher leaves the studio in the morning is awful.

    Take the time and find that documentary about the election. Well worth a look now.


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    topper75
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    What is still shocking years afterwards is the low caliber candidates in that election.

    Hopefully somebody with integrity can get that leprechaun champagne socialist banished out of there next year.


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    #21
    Rubberchikken
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    Maybe rte doesnt look good in that issue but the fact that people actually voted for that man. That without whatever was tweeted thst night we would now be looking at him as our president.
    Few things make me want to grab and shake my head but that one does.


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    #22
    the_syco
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    toxicity234 wrote: »
    Take the time and find that documentary about the election. Well worth a look now.
    How biased is the documentary?


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    cantdecide
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    The licence payer should have every right to know how much the settlement was, I believe.


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    #24
    monnies
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    great to see the license fee going to a good cause,
    also a big shout out to tubridy and darcy
    money well spent


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    #25
    A Little Pony
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    Watched the debate and he should have been the President. Much better than the hobbit or terrorist candidate.


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    c_man
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    cantdecide wrote: »
    The licence payer should have every right to know how much the settlement was, I believe.

    I'd guess at least half a Joe Duffy.


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    BinLiner2
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    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    I've no problem with rte paying for this. Whatever it cost it was one of the best pieces of public expenditure in recent years if it helped keep that cretin out of the park.
    He still managed to swing it for his dad


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    #28
    lertsnim
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    It was glorious television. Great to see him squirm.


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    #29
    murpho999
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    cantdecide wrote: »
    The licence payer should have every right to know how much the settlement was, I believe.

    Not if there is a legal confidentiality agreement between the parties.

    RTE is part-funded by the licence payer but not run or managed by them.


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    cantdecide
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    murpho999 wrote: »
    Not if there is a legal confidentiality agreement between the parties.

    The point is there should be no confidentiality agreements with public money. If 7+ figure settlements can be announced for medical mistakes, I can't see any reason why an undisclosed mound of public money should be handed over without a word.


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    #31
    monnies
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    how do we know this wasn't planed by kenny and gallagher,
    they are probaly diyying up the money now and laughing at us


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