SCP company gone bust, leaving charging situation in N.I in " Confusion"?

liamog · 17-12-2017 08:30PM

If it's structured in such away that private company x is allowed to install on-street SCP's as part of a commercial network using a transfer of the SEAI grant that would have gone to a home charger then ok.
The overall cost is net neutral and the strategic network can stick to enabling longer journeys and chargers that benefit the community instead of the individual.

You can't discount the current users of the system who regularly spend 20 minutes as they don't have at home charging.
These people are the model of the very problem you're trying to solve.
A number of the regular users at Blanch live in Tyrrelstown. An area with exactly the type off on-street parking that causes problems.
I believe that installing a rapid charging station at the Lidl in Tyrrelstown would have more of an effect at Blanchardstown than moving the current station to the N3 Mulhuddart Services.

They are not freeloaders, they are just users of the system who's usage conflicts with your own.

Fair enough, you don't want to find a 20 minute period during the week to go and charge your car. I suspect the number of people who move from ICE to EV and are not willing to change their active 10 minute fill ups to a 20 minute passive fillup will be much lower.

Johnboy1951 · 17-12-2017 08:55PM

liamog wrote: »

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Fair enough, you don't want to find a 20 minute period during the week to go and charge your car. I suspect the number of people who move from ICE to EV and are not willing to change their active 10 minute fill ups to a 20 minute passive fillup will be much lower.

In total agreement!

10 mins per week Vs 20 mins ........ and no need to stand out in the rain and cold while the car fills, even if it is quick.

No splashing of fuel or smell, and hopefully a comfortable place to sit and have a coffee, and a quick chat maybe, to fill in the extra 10 mins.

As previously said ... have the chargers where people are used to stopping with their cars, such as petrol stations and shopping centres.

Heck, just thought of a great benefit ........ I could say I must stay in attendance at the charging car and let herself go do the shopping! (I hate shopping!

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KCross · 17-12-2017 09:01PM

liamog wrote: »

Fair enough, you don't want to find a 20 minute period during the week to go and charge your car. I suspect the number of people who move from ICE to EV and are not willing to change their active 10 minute fill ups to a 20 minute passive fillup will be much lower.

I have my doubts. I would do 500km+ per week. Its above average but by definition not uncommon.

Lets say I have no home charging and I have a 60kWh car. Taking the outside Dublin view (since thats where I am!)... I would hazard an educated guess that there will probably only be a handful of these large DC charge parks in Cork city and surrounding satellite towns. For arguments sake lets say the nearest one to me is 10km away and not on my daily commute.

With a 60kWh car (56kWh usable) being charged to 80% at an average of lets say 80kW (thats Tesla supercharger level) and requiring at least 15% left on arrival it would require taking on 36kWh. That would be a 27min charge and thats not allowing for the detour time which isn't required if you have SCP's on your street.

Lets say its an efficient Ioniq so averaging about 13kWh/100km that would get me 278km. Half my weekly requirement! So I'd need to do another 30min charge and all that is assuming it all falls nicely for me to make a detour to the charger, which isn't nearby anyway.

Prior to the EV I used fill up once a fortnight (or thereabouts). I would be the very last person to switch to EV if I had to waste an hour of my week every week. I think a lot of ICE drivers will come to the same conclusion if they can't charge at home or on their street.

As I said a few posts back, if we have 1000s of rapids around the place then it would be different but thats not going to happen for a long time and we need solutions now.

goz83 · 17-12-2017 10:47PM

I live about 3 minutes from a rapid charger. If I had to use it twice a week because I had no access to a home charge point, I wouldn’t own a current gen EV. If I had access to an scp within 100 meters of my house/apartment, I would have an ev, but would dislike having to charge away from where I normally park.

We love convenience, so if people have to go out of their way to charge on a regular basis, the uptake will be very slow indeed.

reboot · 10-11-2022 11:37PM

Unfortunately it looks like EVs are going the way of smart phones,as complicated as chip manufacturers can turn them out,faster,heavier,cooking the lithium and bringing out the worst in their owners..."Who killed the electric car?" is indeed a sad documentary in its time, I wonder what Martin Sheen would make of the cituation over a decade on?

...Ghost... · 11-11-2022 10:37AM

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SCP company gone bust, leaving charging situation in N.I in " Confusion"?

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