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All-new Peugeot 5008 SUV

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  • #692
    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    SmithySeller wrote: »
    According to that German Real MPG site I think the average Litres/100km are something like the following (from memory);
    1.6 Diesel - 5.9L
    1.2 Petrol - 7.5L
    1.6 Petrol - 7.9L

    From my experieince with the Dealers they have no issue selling you a 1.2 in certain trims. There is a bit of a lead time though. The 1.6 HDI can be got fastest and that suits the Dealer (right now). Most dealers seemed a little reluctant to me to sell the 1.6 Petrol, and most cited resale value will be worst than the other two, others stated other reasons like MPG etc.
    But of course that might change. It could be aurgued also that Petrol is not the solution to the perceived negative Diesel image.
    The 1.2 might seem attractive to those doing lower mileage and IMO that should be the engine of choice here. Both 1.6 are pretty much the exact same price, so you must weigh up your options on that one, as both are very different engines with differing performance characteristics, i.e. 120 v 165 BHP etc..

    But is it a very different driving experience from a 1.2P v a 1.6D?


  • #693
    SmithySeller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 618 ✭✭✭SmithySeller


    Maddux Aggressive Thriftiness wrote: »
    But is it a very different driving experience from a 1.2P v a 1.6D?

    Ive driven both, and think I posted on here about the experience. They are quite similar in feel when it came to power (the 1.2 feeling a little faster), and both I found were very quiet and refined. The big difference is that 1.2 has this lovely engine sound coming from it when you go a tad harder on the peddle. I remember it putting a smile on my face!


  • #694
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,160 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    What do ye make of buying the car outright if you have the money versus pcp or some other kind of finance if you would like the option to change in 3yrs.


  • #695
    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    What do ye make of buying the car outright if you have the money versus pcp or some other kind of finance if you would like the option to change in 3yrs.

    A good businessman never invests his own money.


  • #696
    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    Saw a few review videos online slating the 5008 for headroom in the rear. Some of them said the car was for small people?

    Anyone else have similar experience?


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  • #697
    grogi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,890 ✭✭✭grogi


    Maddux Aggressive Thriftiness wrote: »
    A good businessman never invests his own money.

    Bad businessmen do the same...


  • #698
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,160 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Maddux Aggressive Thriftiness wrote: »
    A good businessman never invests his own money.

    That's what I'm thinking, looking at the share price if your put 20k into Peugeot shares and hope it gets back to 2008 levels with the success of the new models, could be worth 40k+ by the time pcp balloon payment is due.
    Doubled my money on Ferrari shares this year so it's possible. Still can't afford a Ferrari though.


  • #699
    deathtocaptcha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭deathtocaptcha


    Maddux Aggressive Thriftiness wrote: »
    A good businessman never invests his own money.

    Sounds like the sort of quote that belongs on a Facebook image shared by people living paycheck to paycheck.


  • #700
    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    deathtocaptcha wrote: »
    Sounds like the sort of quote that belongs on a Facebook image shared by people living paycheck to paycheck.

    Those are the ones who invested their own money.


  • #701
    Mooooo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,577 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    What do ye make of buying the car outright if you have the money versus pcp or some other kind of finance if you would like the option to change in 3yrs.

    Depends on ones own view really. But your money in a depreciating asset and it's gone, borrow for it and you still have your savings if needed for something else,


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  • #702
    AstraMonti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,704 ✭✭✭AstraMonti


    Maddux Aggressive Thriftiness wrote: »
    Saw a few review videos online slating the 5008 for headroom in the rear. Some of them said the car was for small people?

    Anyone else have similar experience?

    I 've posted about this before.
    AstraMonti wrote: »
    I don't think the panoramic roof is a huge issue. I am 6.1 and I could sit just fine on the back. Granted I didn't have a lot of room but I wouldn't be jumping around if I was sitting on the back. Also, you can tilt the seat back and the issue is much better. Sure at the size of the car I d prefer a better headroom but unless you constantly put 6.3 foot guys on the rear seats, it's a non-issue.


  • #703
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,160 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Need to pull the trigger asap.

    What to do though..

    2.0d allure diesel 150bhp

    1.2 130bhp GT line

    1.2 Allure with full leather.


    Thought I was set on the 1.2gt line but need some reinforcement are all those extras worth it over leather or a 150bhp engine.


  • #704
    grogi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,890 ✭✭✭grogi


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Thought I was set on the 1.2gt line but need some reinforcement are all those extras worth it over leather or a 150bhp engine.

    Do you eat and put muddy boots on the seat? Or anyone else in the car?

    If so, the leather is hard to beat...


  • #705
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,160 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    grogi wrote: »
    Do you eat and put muddy boots on the seat? Or anyone else in the car?

    If so, the leather is hard to beat...

    It's a 3600 option on the GT line though, you can only have the nappa. It's I think around 2,400 in the Allure but then you miss all the led lights and better looking car.

    I've leather in my own but my little exorcist decided to miss the leather altogether on sunday and got it all over the carpet, my car is minging, smells like one of those cars people with children have. :(


  • #706
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,160 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    The 150 diesel in the allure wasn't on the previous price lists but it's there now..

    Allure 2.0 BlueHDi 150bhp S&S Diesel 6-Speed Manual 118 A4 €200 €36,955

    Anyone know anything about that engine?


  • #707
    grogi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,890 ✭✭✭grogi


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    The 150 diesel in the allure wasn't on the previous price lists but it's there now..

    Allure 2.0 BlueHDi 150bhp S&S Diesel 6-Speed Manual 118 A4 €200 €36,955

    Anyone know anything about that engine?

    Good, solid, reliable, economical and punchy. One of the best diesel engines.


  • #708
    mrshopkeeper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭mrshopkeeper


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Need to pull the trigger asap.

    What to do though..

    2.0d allure diesel 150bhp

    1.2 130bhp GT line

    1.2 Allure with full leather.


    Thought I was set on the 1.2gt line but need some reinforcement are all those extras worth it over leather or a 150bhp engine.

    Was considering full leather also, but dealer tells me that there is a very long wait for it


  • #709
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,160 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    mrshopkeeper wrote: »
    Was considering full leather also, but dealer tells me that there is a very long wait for it

    12 weeks I've been told for the proper factory fitted with massage etc. Prices are odd though, way cheaper to get the leather in the allure can only have Nappa in the GT line.
    I don't know if I believe it though, think they'd rather sell you one that's been sitting in the compound. Might magically appear quicker when you order it.


  • #710
    jtf_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 ✭jtf_ie


    I'm hoping to order a 5008 this week, if I can get in to the dealer.
    But I'm torn between the 1.2 Petrol and the 1.6 Diesel engines.

    Would be interested in your thoughts. I test drove the 1.6, but not the 1.2, so I'll do that anyway before I commit.
    I currently drive a Kia Sportage with a 1.7l Diesel engine.

    The 1.2 is a turbo and 130 bhp, so probably equivalent to a 1.4 or 1.5l older (non-turbo) petrol engine.
    The 1.6 is 120 bhp, so technicall has less power than the 1.2.

    However, the torque in a diesel engine tends to peak at lower revs which can translate to fewer gear changes around town.
    The 1.6 will probably also handle high motorway speeds better?

    The 1.2 is probably nippier round town (provided your willing to drop down the gear to get the higher revs and torque).

    Then theres the fact that they may well be banning diesel engines soon, so the resale on the petrol may be better.
    And of course the price with the petrol being cheaper.


  • #711
    grogi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,890 ✭✭✭grogi


    jtf_ie wrote: »
    I'm hoping to order a 5008 this week, if I can get in to the dealer.
    But I'm torn between the 1.2 Petrol and the 1.6 Diesel engines.

    Would be interested in your thoughts. I test drove the 1.6, but not the 1.2, so I'll do that anyway before I commit.
    I currently drive a Kia Sportage with a 1.7l Diesel engine.

    The 1.2 is a turbo and 130 bhp, so probably equivalent to a 1.4 or 1.5l older (non-turbo) petrol engine.

    It would be 1.8 that had ~130 bhp. And don't compare the maximum power, but the available power at 2500 rpm. The N/A 130 bhp would have around 175 Nm@2500 - thus having ~65 bhp. 1.2 Puretech 130 bhp has 230 Nm@2500 - around 80 bhp. It would feel stronger than N/A with similar maximum power.

    I think that might be useful for you... https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=104369221
    jtf_ie wrote: »
    The 1.6 is 120 bhp, so technicall has less power than the 1.2.

    However, the torque in a diesel engine tends to peak at lower revs which can translate to fewer gear changes around town.
    The 1.6 will probably also handle high motorway speeds better?

    The 1.2 is probably nippier round town (provided your willing to drop down the gear to get the higher revs and torque).

    Then theres the fact that they may well be banning diesel engines soon, so the resale on the petrol may be better.

    Nobody, even London, is banning diesels. They are banning old diesels


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  • #712
    hairyslug
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,561 ✭✭✭hairyslug


    Our gt line is sitting in the dealers now, wife doesnt want to collect it until the new year, will try and get up over the next few days for a few photos.


  • #713
    AstraMonti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,704 ✭✭✭AstraMonti


    hairyslug wrote: »
    Our gt line is sitting in the dealers now, wife doesnt want to collect it until the new year, will try and get up over the next few days for a few photos.

    :eek: When did you order it? Mine still nothing :mad:


  • #714
    hairyslug
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,561 ✭✭✭hairyslug


    AstraMonti wrote: »
    :eek: When did you order it? Mine still nothing :mad:

    Early Sept I think, we went for the 1.6d only extras we went for was the heated seat pack.


  • #715
    AstraMonti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,704 ✭✭✭AstraMonti


    hairyslug wrote: »
    Early Sept I think, we went for the 1.6d only extras we went for was the heated seat pack.

    Thanks, I ordered it early sept as well, I did go for the 1.6 petrol so this might delay things, let's hope it will be here by mid January as promised. Enjoy your lovely ride!
    Maddux Aggressive Thriftiness wrote: »
    Saw a few review videos online slating the 5008 for headroom in the rear. Some of them said the car was for small people?

    Anyone else have similar experience?

    Here is another review from a 6.2 guy. He looks fine to me.
    https://youtu.be/wKfZAJzmn8g?t=221


  • #716
    jtf_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 ✭jtf_ie


    Thanks grogi. That looks like a great post. I'll have to take time to read it in detail later.
    grogi wrote: »

    Nobody, even London, is banning diesels. They are banning old diesels

    Norway are banning the sale of all Diesel cars in 2025 and the UK and France in 2040. There is even talk of Germay banning diesel cars in cities as early as next year.
    The Irish Dept of Transport has a target of being "zero emissions capable" by 2030 and to "further decarbonise" by 2050, so its unclear when the diesel ban would come in.
    Volvo has also announced that they will stop production of Diesel cars.

    My point was not really that diesel would be banned before I decide to resell, but more that the negative press that diesel is getting seems to be increasing which may affect the resale value in a few years time.


  • #717
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,160 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    I doubt it's going to have wonderful resale value anyway especially the GT line and extras like leather. The entry point of the basic spec will drag them all down.


  • #718
    sword1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,991 ✭✭✭sword1


    jtf_ie wrote: »
    Thanks grogi. That looks like a great post. I'll have to take time to read it in detail later.



    Norway are banning the sale of all Diesel cars in 2025 and the UK and France in 2040. There is even talk of Germay banning diesel cars in cities as early as next year.
    The Irish Dept of Transport has a target of being "zero emissions capable" by 2030 and to "further decarbonise" by 2050, so its unclear when the diesel ban would come in.
    Volvo has also announced that they will stop production of Diesel cars.

    My point was not really that diesel would be banned before I decide to resell, but more that the negative press that diesel is getting seems to be increasing which may affect the resale value in a few years time.

    Volvo are going to stop investing in diesel technology, they will still be producing diesel cars but the engines will be the same as they are now.


  • #719
    sword1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,991 ✭✭✭sword1


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    I doubt it's going to have wonderful resale value anyway especially the GT line and extras like leather. The entry point of the basic spec will drag them all down.

    Cars are dropping in value like stones. Buy expecting the worst,the difference between different manufacturers is marginal and you never get the money back for the extras, just an easier sale


  • #720
    sReq | uTeK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭sReq | uTeK


    Pick my Gt-Line up on Tuesday. Very much looking forward to it.


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  • #721
    AstraMonti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,704 ✭✭✭AstraMonti


    sReq | uTeK wrote: »
    Pick my Gt-Line up on Tuesday. Very much looking forward to it.

    By the time you are home we are waiting for a full report/review/ etc etc and a lot of photos. Enjoy the new car!


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