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Eir rural FTTH thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,964 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    chrismon wrote:
    Hi all. What's the crack with the eir TV box? What connection does it use? Does it work over the network or is it the satellite? The engineer said it needed a phone cable? Surely he meant Ethernet?


    Iptv(internet protocol tv), I.e. the tv signal is streamed over eirs broadband network, I.e. no satellite. I'm not hearing amazing things about their boxes though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭chrismon


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Iptv(internet protocol tv), I.e. the tv signal is streamed over eirs broadband network, I.e. no satellite. I'm not hearing amazing things about their boxes though

    That was my thinking alright.
    Do you know if it needs a phone cable along with Ethernet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,964 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    chrismon wrote:
    That was my thinking alright. Do you know if it needs a phone cable along with Ethernet?


    I don't to be honest, I've limited knowledge on these things, but I'm sure someone will be along soon to inform us both. It obviously needs to be connected to their socket some how, but I'm wondering if an rj11 (phone connection) could carry the load? I suspect an rj45 (Ethernet) is required for the load.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭chrismon


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    I don't to be honest, I've limited knowledge on these things, but I'm sure someone will be along soon to inform us both. It obviously needs to be connected to their socket some how, but I'm wondering if an rj11 (phone connection) could carry the load? I suspect an rj45 (Ethernet) is required for the load.

    I hope so.
    I'm not running phone cables around the house.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    chrismon wrote: »
    That was my thinking alright.
    Do you know if it needs a phone cable along with Ethernet?

    They fit it using cat5 Ethernet running back to the modem


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭chrismon


    They fit it using cat5 Ethernet running back to the modem

    Thank you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭banjopeter


    fritzelly wrote: »
    All the problems with installations not happening/needs an hoist/needs 2 men etc are really OpenEir/Wholesale issues and not the retail side of eir which the average Joe deals with - wouldn't matter if it was thru Vodafone, Sky etc as they all have to go thru the same company
    Might be the "same company" but they have to operate as 3 separate companies
    As Marlow says it is how the end provider deals with their customers that affects us. I was dealing with Eir for 5 months, trying to get connected, and it was a total nightmare with woeful customer service. Tried Digiweb then instead, and what a contrast. Connected within the week, staff nothing but courteous and attentive, with real phone calls from real people when I had an issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 Grimsvotn


    Hi guys, I just ordered fibre from Eir as my house is on the FTTH map.
    What should i expect in terms of installation, are there normally any difficulties involved in installing FTTH?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,043 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Grimsvotn wrote: »
    What should i expect in terms of installation, are there normally any difficulties involved in installing FTTH?

    If you have an existing phone line does it come in via a duct or overhead from a pole?
    If via a duct, issues could include blocked duct or duct too small, such issue will have to be resolved by the householder before install goes ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 Grimsvotn


    The Cush wrote: »
    If you have an existing phone line does it come in via a duct or overhead from a pole?
    If via a duct, issues could include blocked duct or duct too small, such issue will have to be resolved by the householder before install goes ahead.

    Yeah existing phone line present, seems to come in via duct as no overhead cables are connected to the house.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,043 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Grimsvotn wrote: »
    Yeah existing phone line present, seems to come in via duct as no overhead cables are connected to the house.

    Does the cable come in via a small white box on the house, an ETU, or directly to the phone point?

    http://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/cheat-sheets/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Gandie


    ED E wrote: »
    Gandie wrote: »
    I have the 150MB FTTH package. It drops to about 60-70Mb at peak times. I'm thinking this is normal ?

    What does the 300 or 1000MB FTTH package drop to at peak times ?

    Are you testing wirelessly?
    Yes and it looks like that's the main problem.
    I was getting 145+Mb sitting inside in the sitting room during the day (router about 20 feet and 2 solid walls away) but at night time it seemed to dip to 60Mb or 70Mb. 
    I figured out last night that it works better for me (at least it seemed to last night) if I keep the 2.4gHz and 5gHz wifi networks separate. The fritz box had them with the same SSID and I guess my phone then may be switching to the stronger signal at times. When I named the SSIDs differently, it seemed that both the 2.4gHz and 5gHz network speedtests improved considerably. The 2.4gHz was now hitting 85Mb consistently and the 5gHz was hitting 140Mb consistently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭edgari0kas


    whats the upload speeds for 150 , 300 and 1000 mb ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    edgari0kas wrote: »
    whats the upload speeds for 150 , 300 and 1000 mb ?

    30, 50, 100 Mb.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭edgari0kas


    thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭RoYoBo


    Marlow wrote: »
    That is as such correct. But the difference is, how the provider takes care of the customer, when OpenEIR or the contractor lets the customer down.

    And there are acres of difference between providers there.

    /M

    Couldn't agree more. Have had 4 failed appointments now for Eir - all the usual excuses, no hoist, needs 2 men, too dark now, no shows etc and the best one - run out of clips at the last job!

    The worst thing is the endless phonecalls you have to make after the failed appointment, being sent from one company/department to another, with empty promises to return your call. The final insult is being sent back to the bottom of the list because KN/OpenEir/Eir failed yet again to install FTTH at the appointment THEY made for you! I had to chase it all and re-order yesterday - from scratch!

    I now have a fifth install appointment but it's going to be in the mouth of Xmas, so I have little hope really. One of the engineer/installers told me that each day is a new day and it's the luck of the draw whether you get installed at your allocated appointment. Instead of taking appointments in order, with failed ones getting some priority, it's a new day and a new list.

    Although KN are supposed to be contracted by Eir, I have a suspicion that there must be some deal going on somewhere that is giving the likes of Digiweb customers an edge. If everyone was getting equal treatment, there wouldn't be such a trail of disaster attached to Eir orders vs Digiweb ones. Not that that excuses Eir from their absolutely abysmal customer service - how anyone manages to keep patient and polite is a mystery.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    RoYoBo wrote: »
    ...I have a suspicion that there must be some deal going on somewhere that is giving the likes of Digiweb customers an edge.

    Hah. I'm picturing the reaction of OAOs up and down the country to this theory... :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭RoYoBo


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Hah. I'm picturing the reaction of OAOs up and down the country to this theory... :pac:

    Well, indulging in conspiracy theories is better than letting fly with frustration at the customer 'service' agents on the phone :pac: Eir, OpenEir and KN are busy blaming each other for the shortcomings in installations. I've heard them all over the last month of fake appointments.

    All the while (it would appear) that Digiweb customers report being connected within a week on a once off appointment. It never seems to be too dark for them to get installed, so it looks like they're getting all the morning appointments. Not to mention using up all the clips that the KN installer has in his van ... :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,111 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Could do with Digiweb charging and Eir doing it free


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Could do with Digiweb charging and Eir doing it free

    Nope. Everyone pays the same, and everyone has the same problems to deal with. Smaller ISPs tend to have more hands-on customer service and fewer issues with orders getting lost in a maze of systems.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Everyone must deal with UG though

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭ezra_


    So KN have put the black box thing on the poles near us, how much longer do you guys think it will be before it goes live?

    Was forecasted for during second half 2017.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    While getting the splice boxes on the poles is one step closer, I've noticed that in my area they have yet to bring the feeding fiber to the start of the fiber runs across the poles. The blow tube/pipe is in and waiting. For me, most likely another 2 months maybe.

    The Openeir site says second half of 2017 for me, but when you mail OpenEir with your eircode you get a more accurate idea which for me is March'18.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭ezra_


    KeRbDoG wrote: »
    While getting the splice boxes on the poles is one step closer, I've noticed that in my area they have yet to bring the feeding fiber to the start of the fiber runs across the poles. The blow tube/pipe is in and waiting. For me, most likely another 2 months maybe.

    The Openeir site says second half of 2017 for me, but when you mail OpenEir with your eircode you get a more accurate idea which for me is March'18.

    How do you contact OpenEir?

    We don't have an existing phone line so can't seem to trigger the live chat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭dumb_parade


    KeRbDoG wrote: »
    While getting the splice boxes on the poles is one step closer, I've noticed that in my area they have yet to bring the feeding fiber to the start of the fiber runs across the poles. The blow tube/pipe is in and waiting. For me, most likely another 2 months maybe.

    The Openeir site says second half of 2017 for me, but when you mail OpenEir with your eircode you get a more accurate idea which for me is March'18.

    I'm in the same boat. The day after the 300K were announced back in April, the guys were on our road installing fibre in the ducts. We were due to get fibre by December 2017. Part of the exchange went live last month, but when i emailed open eir, they now say it will be March 2018.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭MajesticDonkey


    Just had an eir sub-contractor call about hedge cutting in preparation for the fibre rollout - to say I'm excited is an understatement! My house is down for winter 2018, so it seems very early to be cutting hedges. Anyone have experience with timescales from when hedges are cut to fibre being available?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭babybuilder


    Just had an eir sub-contractor call about hedge cutting in preparation for the fibre rollout - to say I'm excited is an understatement! My house is down for winter 2018, so it seems very early to be cutting hedges. Anyone have experience with timescales from when hedges are cut to fibre being available?
    Just wondering this myself. Trees trimmed about 2 months ago and I'm down for winter 18.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    Hedges around me were cut in October 2016, I was connected in November 2017.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭I_HAVE_NO_NAME


    Siro successfully after testing 10Gbit speeds. Is that using the existing FTTH technology (the distribution points splice boxes) or is it P2P?

    https://siro.ie/huawei-trial/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,886 ✭✭✭✭Rock Lesnar


    We had an Eir rep in with us around august or september i think it was, fibre would be installed with 3 weeks.

    We are still waiting.


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