Man living in Council House Slips after 5 Pints, Claims and is Awarded €105K

BillyBobBS · 01-12-2017 01:33PM

McGaggs wrote: »

As the house is unfit for human habitation, this lad has to be kicked out straight away.
As this lad now has substantial means as a result of the award, he should no longer be entitled to a council house. Smart old judgey, playing the long game.

It doesn't work like that. Social housing tenants pay a percentage of their earnings towards the rent (actually a very fair system) and i think you need to have a hell of a lot more than 105k in the bank to be removed from a council house.

PeterParker957 · 01-12-2017 01:33PM

BillyBobBS wrote: »

It doesn't work like that. Social housing tenants pay a percentage of their earnings towards the rent (actually a very fair system) and i think you need to have a hell of a lot more than 105k in the bank to be removed from a council house.

If so, that is a disgrace.

Bunny Colvin · 01-12-2017 01:59PM

Choose to get a subsidised house

Choose to go and get steamed (5 pints my hole)

Choose to slip and sue

Choose to have more money in your account than most working people will ever see

Choose Ireland

CrankyHaus · 01-12-2017 02:00PM

Judge Anthony Barr has form for this sort of thing.

http://https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/jogger-who-injured-his-hand-after-tripping-over-a-hole-awarded-60k-35604012.html

Man alleges to trip jogging in halting site and only injure his knuckle.
The day after being a back-seat passenger in a rear-end collision for which he alleges soft-tissue injuries.
Defence suggest knuckle injury may be from boxing.
Judge Anthony Barr awards punitive damages for suggesting this upstanding citizen is anything less than honest.
Despite a history of "boxing".

http://https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/five-members-of-the-same-family-avoid-jail-term-for-violent-attack-in-tax-office-29273217.html

PeterParker957 · 01-12-2017 02:03PM

CrankyHaus wrote: »

Judge Anthony Barr has form for this sort of thing.

http://https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/jogger-who-injured-his-hand-after-tripping-over-a-hole-awarded-60k-35604012.html

Man alleges to trip jogging in halting site and only injure his knuckle.
The day after being a back-seat passenger in a rear-end collision for which he alleges soft-tissue injuries.
Defence suggest knuckle injury may be from boxing.
Judge Anthony Barr awards punitive damages for suggesting this upstanding citizen is anything less than honest.
Despite a history of "boxing".

http://https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/five-members-of-the-same-family-avoid-jail-term-for-violent-attack-in-tax-office-29273217.html

God he's an idiot!!!!!

DrPhilG · 01-12-2017 02:13PM

Where is this nonsensical claim culture going to stop?

This is the kind of stuff we used to hear coming from the States and scoff at those "crazy claim culture yanks".

Now we're getting just as bad!

wandatowell · 01-12-2017 02:15PM

that the use of the tiles rendered the house unfit for human habitation.

Really judge, REALLY?????

server down · 01-12-2017 02:16PM

We need to elect and impeach judges at that level.

Hector Savage · 01-12-2017 02:28PM

that the use of the tiles rendered the house unfit for human habitation.

wandatowell wrote: »

Really judge, REALLY?????

Where will this sh1te stop ?
You could literally argue ANYTHING in the world is too dangerous and unfit for humans - a fork , I could stick a fork in my eyes and blind myself, should I sue the cutlery manufacturer ? its getting to a stage where perhaps I could ... :mad:

irishguitarlad · 01-12-2017 02:30PM

Was it really necessary to say that he lives in a Council House?

Hande hoche! · 01-12-2017 02:31PM

irishguitarlad wrote: »

Was it really necessary to say that he lives in a Council House?

To be fair it was in the websites headlines.

Liam McPoyle · 01-12-2017 02:34PM

irishguitarlad wrote: »

Was it really necessary to say that he lives in a Council House?

One would assume it was mentioned because the claimant sued the council for compo.

People could have assumed he claimed from his own home insurer if it wasn't clarified which could lead to potential copy cat claimants.

henryporter · 01-12-2017 02:39PM

Judge says “sorry for your troubles my good man, here’s 6000 pints now with another 15000 pints to follow: that should help your pain”

fxotoole · 01-12-2017 02:44PM

Man living in Council House Slips after 5 Pints, Claims and is Awarded €105K

Hopefully the council reassess his means after the cheque is cashed :pac: :pac: :pac:

topper75 · 01-12-2017 02:54PM

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Please tell me this will be appealed.

I'm sure it will.

Beyond that though, can I ask in my legal ignorance if there is any kind of formal peer review system among the judiciary?

JPCN1 · 01-12-2017 03:01PM

topper75 wrote: »

I'm sure it will.

Beyond that though, can I ask in my legal ignorance if there is any kind of formal peer review system among the judiciary?

Yeah, every year they have a dinner in the Law Library, get pissed and hand out gongs to whoever gave the most ridiculous awards of the year. Sponsored by the Solicitors of Ireland I believe.

Mrs OBumble · 01-12-2017 03:18PM

fxotoole wrote: »

Hopefully the council reassess his means after the cheque is cashed :pac: :pac: :pac:

There's no legal mechanism for that.

They can and do reassess his rent based on his income, but the house is his for life provided he pays his rent and isn't anti social.

And they will have to replace the dangerous tiles.

PeterParker957 · 01-12-2017 03:20PM

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

There's no legal mechanism for that.

They can and do reassess his rent based on his income, but the house is his for life provided he pays his rent and isn't anti social.

And they will have to replace the dangerous tiles.

Why ??? It's a valuable resource to those who need help.

Why do you get to keep it when your circumstances improve dramatically ???

Taking the proverbial fluid that.

rob316 · 01-12-2017 03:35PM

PeterParker957 wrote: »

Why ??? It's a valuable resource to those who need help.

Why do you get to keep it when your circumstances improve dramatically ???

Taking the proverbial fluid that.

Many like me would of stripped the house out over the years and made it there own and added value to it. He also has the option to buy it at a large discount.

As your circumstances change you pay more in rent, if I was asked to pay a good bit more I would to be honest, its beat the hell out of renting on the private market and you don't have to worry about the landlord turning around at any moment and saying your out as he's selling.

BrokenArrows · 01-12-2017 03:57PM

Business Cat wrote: »

People could have assumed he claimed from his own home insurer if it wasn't clarified which could lead to potential copy cat claimants.

I wonder would that succeed.
Could i sue myself after falling on my own property and claim it off my insurance?

McCrack · 01-12-2017 04:27PM

topper75 wrote: »

I'm sure it will.

Beyond that though, can I ask in my legal ignorance if there is any kind of formal peer review system among the judiciary?

Yes - an appeal by one of the sides to the next Court in the tier

Liam McPoyle · 01-12-2017 04:29PM

BrokenArrows wrote: »

I wonder would that succeed.
Could i sue myself after falling on my own property and claim it off my insurance?

No, but it doesn't mean that people may not try it.

Chrongen · 01-12-2017 06:25PM

In fairness the amount of times I've ever slipped and fallen over in my life, the majority have been experienced when sober and I've had 5 pints in me on 100's if not 1000's of occasions The only 2 times I've slipped and gone to ground when locked or semi-locked have been once on a wet dance floor in the US (I probably could have gotten millions for that) and once going home with a girl I met at a Christmas do years ago. Ground was covered in ice and the pair of us landed on our arses outside her house.

Anyway this case was about the tiles being dangerous.

If I'm locked and fall asleep on the couch and there's a carbon monoxide leak due to shoddy work and also a defective detector and I'm asphyxiated it's hardly MY fault but some will say "Stupid bastard shouldn't have been drunk. Serves him right.

Gatling · 01-12-2017 06:25PM

Business Cat wrote: »

No, but it doesn't mean that people may not try it.

Who remembers the blind man who feel out of his friends window .

Sickening that was awarded wonder if he put the tiles down himself

boardsuser1 · 01-12-2017 06:33PM

Wow :eek:

Funny how the tiles in my house were there when I moved in yet I never slipped.

Must be because i don’t drink.

Silly me!

01-12-2017 06:47PM

Chrongen wrote: »

In fairness the amount of times I've ever slipped and fallen over in my life, the majority have been experienced when sober and I've had 5 pints in me on 100's if not 1000's of occasions The only 2 times I've slipped and gone to ground when locked or semi-locked have been once on a wet dance floor in the US (I probably could have gotten millions for that) and once going home with a girl I met at a Christmas do years ago. Ground was covered in ice and the pair of us landed on our arses outside her house.

Anyway this case was about the tiles being dangerous.

If I'm locked and fall asleep on the couch and there's a carbon monoxide leak due to shoddy work and also a defective detector and I'm asphyxiated it's hardly MY fault but some will say "Stupid bastard shouldn't have been drunk. Serves him right.

But the expert deemed there was a moderate risk ONLY when wet but the judge ignored that, said the House wasn’t fit for human habitation and then, awarded an astronomical payout!

AmberGold · 01-12-2017 07:04PM

Chrongen wrote: »

In fairness the amount of times I've ever slipped and fallen over in my life, the majority have been experienced when sober and I've had 5 pints in me on 100's if not 1000's of occasions The only 2 times I've slipped and gone to ground when locked or semi-locked have been once on a wet dance floor in the US (I probably could have gotten millions for that) and once going home with a girl I met at a Christmas do years ago. Ground was covered in ice and the pair of us landed on our arses outside her house.

Anyway this case was about the tiles being dangerous.

If I'm locked and fall asleep on the couch and there's a carbon monoxide leak due to shoddy work and also a defective detector and I'm asphyxiated it's hardly MY fault but some will say "Stupid bastard shouldn't have been drunk. Serves him right.

Big difference between falling asleep, dying from a carbon monoxide leak and slipping on a wet tile, drunk. Where does contributory negligence come into this?

Mint Sauce · 01-12-2017 07:18PM

And it will cause the Local CoCo even more, as they will have go into all their other council properties, to change floors, so they can avoid future claims. What ever happened to personal responsibility.

Sue Pa Key Pa · 01-12-2017 07:53PM

Hector Savage wrote:

Where will this sh1te stop ? You could literally argue ANYTHING in the world is too dangerous and unfit for humans ...

Nope, these things only become lethal once they arrive in Ireland. Strangely, other countries seem to be able to avoid injury going about their daily business

01-12-2017 07:58PM

Mental stuff.

My Mother slipped on a pavement in Cork city the other day because the paving blocks were loose. Completely bashed up her knee. She made a joke about suing the council and we had a laugh about it. Funny thing is she probably would have got away with suing them. :rolleyes:

Man living in Council House Slips after 5 Pints, Claims and is Awarded €105K

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