Al Porter Scandal

Ash.J.Williams · 23-11-2017 01:03PM

splinter65 wrote: »

He will be able to do stand up though. Plenty of people have no problem with his behavior and don’t know what all the fuss is about.
Roy Chubby Brown and Bernard Manning et al were very successful for years.
He’ll have no problem turning all of this into part of his act.
I don’t find it funny myself but I’m not going to tell other people what they can laugh at.
What I don’t want is to have it shoved down my throat on mainstream TV and radio and all over the media basically.
Al Porter is not a main stream entertainer and should never have been pitched that way, his agent/manager and the TV/radio bosses need to take some responsibility here too.

He's very much a mainstream act

seachto7 · 23-11-2017 01:10PM

This reminds me of BBC Show Extras, and yer man on the Panto.... (not Bunny)

splinter65 · 23-11-2017 01:23PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

He's very much a mainstream act

Absolutely not a mainstream act.
If the whole family can’t sit down and watch it then it belongs in very late night TV or in private clubs and pubs where people choose to pay in to enjoy the act.
Nothing about his appearance on LLS Valentines night was mainstream, his radio show was ridiculous for families in cars travellling home from school his Blind Date was a car crash.
Not fair on him apart from anything else, he doesn’t have the comedic talent to modify his act to make him palatable to mainstream.
Even if these allegations had not surfaced, I doubt if his “mainstream” career was going to go anywhere.
When you can’t stop yourself from using the word “cock” in every sentence and you don’t have an act without the word “cock” then your pretty much snookered for prime time Saturday night TV.

Ash.J.Williams · 23-11-2017 01:31PM

splinter65 wrote: »

Absolutely not a mainstream act.
If the whole family can’t sit down and watch it then it belongs in very late night TV or in private clubs and pubs where people choose to pay in to enjoy the act.
Nothing about his appearance on LLS Valentines night was mainstream, his radio show was ridiculous for families in cars travellling home from school his Blind Date was a car crash.
Not fair on him apart from anything else, he doesn’t have the comedic talent to modify his act to make him palatable to mainstream.
Even if these allegations had not surfaced, I doubt if his “mainstream” career was going to go anywhere.
When you can’t stop yourself from using the word “cock” in every sentence and you don’t have an act without the word “cock” then your pretty much snookered for prime time Saturday night TV.

He's a main stream act.... He never has and never will have a career in alternative comedy

david75 · 23-11-2017 01:32PM

Yeah he’s deffo not mainstream. He’s a much bluer version of Mrs browns browns boys. I don’t know anyone who ever even found him funny. Loads like his big personality but his version humour not at all.

Ash.J.Williams · 23-11-2017 01:33PM

It's the "bit of blue" end of mainstream... But it is mainstream

david75 · 23-11-2017 01:55PM

He’s loathed in Dublin’s comedy scene and was before all this news broke. And said as much in the Irish Times only a week or two ago. There’s no come back for him in that scene either.

Ash.J.Williams · 23-11-2017 02:03PM

Alternative comedians don't usually discuss mickeys etc

david75 · 23-11-2017 02:05PM

Well it’s obvious he’s not alternative either.

The most fitting term I can think of is he’s a throwback.

If this was late 70s/early 80s he’d probably be huge. In Britain at least. He wouldn’t have been allowed on Irish tv at the time.

God be with the days

jack hackett · 23-11-2017 02:24PM

splinter65 wrote: »

He will be able to do stand up though. Plenty of people have no problem with his behavior and don’t know what all the fuss is about.
Roy Chubby Brown and Bernard Manning et al were very successful for years.
He’ll have no problem turning all of this into part of his act.
I don’t find it funny myself but I’m not going to tell other people what they can laugh at.
What I don’t want is to have it shoved down my throat on mainstream TV and radio and all over the media basically.
Al Porter is not a main stream entertainer and should never have been pitched that way, his agent/manager and the TV/radio bosses need to take some responsibility here too.

Well I have to fully agree with you on the fact that he is not and never could be mainstream hes too one dimensional, filth and inuendo and thats it, his agent is always going to get him what he can, he landed him a 140k a year job with todayfm but its todayfm who have to take a lot of responsibility here, they made a massive error here and it backfired on him completely
Brown and Manning weren't outed as sex pests and there is no way porter can make a joke out of the fact that he has been caught out as a sex pest, even people who like his sort of crap, i dont think anybody can find sexual harassment funny

jack hackett · 23-11-2017 02:27PM

splinter65 wrote: »

Absolutely not a mainstream act.
If the whole family can’t sit down and watch it then it belongs in very late night TV or in private clubs and pubs where people choose to pay in to enjoy the act.
Nothing about his appearance on LLS Valentines night was mainstream, his radio show was ridiculous for families in cars travellling home from school his Blind Date was a car crash.
Not fair on him apart from anything else, he doesn’t have the comedic talent to modify his act to make him palatable to mainstream.
Even if these allegations had not surfaced, I doubt if his “mainstream” career was going to go anywhere.
When you can’t stop yourself from using the word “cock” in every sentence and you don’t have an act without the word “cock” then your pretty much snookered for prime time Saturday night TV.

tv and radio stations will learn a hard lesson from this now and wont be so brave as to bring in a non mainstream guy like this again, it has badly backfired on tv3 and todayfm

Beechwoodspark · 23-11-2017 02:33PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

It's the "bit of blue" end of mainstream... But it is mainstream

Nah his act isn't mainstream, it was pretty much full on sexual themes even more so than Brendan o Carroll at his mid 90s blue-est -

HOWEVER his agent managed to shoehorn him into mainstream jobs like the today fm gig and tv3 light entertainment, the attitude seemed to be fcuk the public they'll take what they are given...

It's backfired to say the least.

Ballstein · 23-11-2017 02:43PM

The most astonishing thing for me is the way he was allowed to quietly step away from the panto. The man is a sexual deviant who targets vunerable psychiatric patients and yet there wasn't a defeaning roar to have him removed from a setting that involved working intimately with children and intellectually challenged people i.e the people who attend panto's. If old Harvey had been lined up to play the ogre in some show in the Gaitey then the mob would have been outside with burning torches and forks.

Dyr · 23-11-2017 02:45PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Alternative comedians don't usually discuss mickeys etc

Only Al and Twink do.

Fitting, in a way

splinter65 · 23-11-2017 02:49PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

He's a main stream act.... He never has and never will have a career in alternative comedy

So your happy to sit preteens and pensioners in front of his Blind Date show?
Everyone to their own but I think the preteens in particular are bombarded with enough pornographic rubbish without adults who care for them force feeding them more.

everlast75 · 23-11-2017 02:52PM

Ballstein wrote: »

The most astonishing thing for me is the way he was allowed to quietly step away from the panto. The man is an alleged sexual deviant who allegedly targets vunerable psychiatric patients and yet there wasn't a defeaning roar to have him removed from a setting that involved working intimately with children and intellectually challenged people i.e the people who attend panto's. If old Harvey had been lined up to play the ogre in some show in the Gaitey then the mob would have been outside with burning torches and forks.

Fixed your post for you. You might be right, and it is right that he stepped away from the panto and the radio show, but at the moment they are allegations and pitchforks and torches are a little away at the moment

Beechwoodspark · 23-11-2017 03:07PM

everlast75 wrote: »

Fixed your post for you. You might be right, and it is right that he stepped away from the panto and the radio show, but at the moment they are allegations and pitchforks and torches are a little away at the moment

It is definitely right and also I would add that if people have criminal allegations to make they need to report them to the guards so that they can investigate through a proper and fair process

BuilderPlumber · 23-11-2017 03:59PM

_Brian wrote: »

I 100% agree.
The thing that scares me is aparrently this is being produced as it’s what the “general public” want as entertainment. That scares the hell out of me as it seems Irish people have become a bunch of idiots entertained by the lowest form of wit.
I’ve seen so many posts online calling for Porter to still do the stupid panto “because it won’t be the same without him”

This is being produced and marketed as what the general public want because the media want to push it and can justify it when some people think what he and other vulgar comedians do is funny. The media are a dirty lot by and large and cater for the lowest forms of entertainment. The media of course knew full well what Porter is and still his face was all over the TV and papers and his voice all over radio. Also one wonders where all these relatively small stations can get the money to pay him and others like him their inflated salaries.

jack hackett · 23-11-2017 04:05PM

splinter65 wrote: »

So your happy to sit preteens and pensioners in front of his Blind Date show?
Everyone to their own but I think the preteens in particular are bombarded with enough pornographic rubbish without adults who care for them force feeding them more.

I used to love the old Cilla Black blind date and I was horrified to see that a good old fashioned family show was to be presented by that smutty filthy porter, he was a disgrace, every sentence that came from him was referencing mickeys etc, no way could you sit and watch that with your granny or your kid, hes a sex pest and he obviously couldnt help himself but i am delighted for today fm and tv3 to see if spectacularly backfire on them, one day i was listening to the radio show and he asked a caller hows your flute, now how in the name of high school football can that ever be acceptable for the middle of the day radio listening?

Dyr · 23-11-2017 04:09PM

jack hackett wrote: »

I used to love the old Cilla Black blind date and I was horrified to see that a good old fashioned family show was to be presented by that smutty filthy porter, he was a disgrace, every sentence that came from him was referencing mickeys etc, no way could you sit and watch that with your granny or your kid, hes a sex pest and he obviously couldnt help himself but i am delighted for today fm and tv3 to see if spectacularly backfire on them, one day i was listening to the radio show and he asked a caller hows your flute, now how in the name of high school football can that ever be acceptable for the middle of the day radio listening?

Do people look for the TV programs to watch with their grannies?

kunst nugget · 23-11-2017 04:21PM

jack hackett wrote: »

tv and radio stations will learn a hard lesson from this now and wont be so brave as to bring in a non mainstream guy like this again, it has badly backfired on tv3 and todayfm

There's plenty of non-mainstream people out there that aren't Gropy McGroperson…

s3rtvdbwfj81ch · 23-11-2017 04:22PM

Bambi wrote: »

Do people look for the TV programs to watch with their grannies?

No, but I bring my almost 4 year old over to my ma's house every Saturday and we stay for tea, and then watch a bit of telly before heading home.

Programs on between 5 and 7 on a Saturday are aimed at this kind of "something for everyone" kind of communal viewing - sure there may be a bit of inyourendo or double entendre, but nothing like what Porter was at on Blind Date.

That kind of stuff makes it uncomfortable for everyone in the room.

Or maybe it's different for you? Are you from one of these fully enlightened families where a the da never starts whistling nonchalantly when a sex scene comes on and there's a teenager in the room? Bully for you if so.

Dyr · 23-11-2017 04:25PM

Kali Mushy Blackjack wrote: »

Or maybe it's different for you? Are you from one of these fully enlightened families where a the da never starts whistling nonchalantly when a sex scene comes on and there's a teenager in the room? Bully for you if so.

I'm from a weird family where we don't all sit around staring at the telly like the ****ing Royles

pilly · 23-11-2017 04:45PM

Kali Mushy Blackjack wrote: »

No, but I bring my almost 4 year old over to my ma's house every Saturday and we stay for tea, and then watch a bit of telly before heading home.

Programs on between 5 and 7 on a Saturday are aimed at this kind of "something for everyone" kind of communal viewing - sure there may be a bit of inyourendo or double entendre, but nothing like what Porter was at on Blind Date.

That kind of stuff makes it uncomfortable for everyone in the room.

Or maybe it's different for you? Are you from one of these fully enlightened families where a the da never starts whistling nonchalantly when a sex scene comes on and there's a teenager in the room? Bully for you if so.

First off, Blind Date was on at 9pm on a Sunday, not between 5 and 7 on a Saturday, you've obviously never even seen what you're calling filth.

Secondly, there was no more innuendo on it this time around than there was when Cilla Black did it.

You genuinely are blatantly judging the programme based off your dislike of Al Porter or maybe gay people in general, I'm not sure?

But I'll state it again, there was absolutely not once anything on Blind Date that I wouldn't be very comfortable to watch with my granny or children.

AustinLostin · 23-11-2017 04:53PM

pilly wrote: »

First off, Blind Date was on at 9pm on a Sunday, not between 5 and 7 on a Saturday, you've obviously never even seen what you're calling filth.

Secondly, there was no more innuendo on it this time around than there was when Cilla Black did it.

You genuinely are blatantly judging the programme based off your dislike of Al Porter or maybe gay people in general, I'm not sure?

But I'll state it again, there was absolutely not once anything on Blind Date that I wouldn't be very comfortable to watch with my granny or children.

No in fairness now, Blind Date was pretty bad in terms of the innuendo- definitely one you'd be embarrassed to watch with your granny, and no way would I put that on for kids. Fair enough you saying that you were fine with the show, but I saw plenty of stuff I wouldn't have been comfortable to watch with kids. I'm gay and I think my boyfriend is as well and we watched the first episode because on ex of one of our friends was on - that programme was really bad, and really made me dislike Al Porter before any of this started - nothing to do with his sexuality or the scandal, it was just a very bad crass unfunny show.

pilly · 23-11-2017 05:09PM

AustinLostin wrote: »

No in fairness now, Blind Date was pretty bad in terms of the innuendo- definitely one you'd be embarrassed to watch with your granny, and no way would I put that on for kids. Fair enough you saying that you were fine with the show, but I saw plenty of stuff I wouldn't have been comfortable to watch with kids. I'm gay and I think my boyfriend is as well and we watched the first episode because on ex of one of our friends was on - that programme was really bad, and really made me dislike Al Porter before any of this started - nothing to do with his sexuality or the scandal, it was just a very bad crass unfunny show.

Blind Date has always been crass and unfunny, that's my point, it's totally scripted and it followed exactly the same format as Cilla Black's version.

I presume you mean above about that you would be embarrassed to watch it with your granny because I've already said that I wouldn't be so no need to decide for anyone else.

Titzon Toast · 23-11-2017 05:12PM

glenfieldman wrote: »

No any chance of a screen grab ? or a PM ?

PM sent.

gramar · 23-11-2017 05:13PM

AustinLostin wrote: »

No in fairness now, Blind Date was pretty bad in terms of the innuendo- definitely one you'd be embarrassed to watch with your granny, and no way would I put that on for kids. Fair enough you saying that you were fine with the show, but I saw plenty of stuff I wouldn't have been comfortable to watch with kids. I'm gay and I think my boyfriend is as well and we watched the first episode because on ex of one of our friends was on - that programme was really bad, and really made me dislike Al Porter before any of this started - nothing to do with his sexuality or the scandal, it was just a very bad crass unfunny show.

splinter65 · 23-11-2017 05:25PM

Bambi wrote: »

I'm from a weird family where we don't all sit around staring at the telly like the ****ing Royles

Watching TV is a popular pastime for families all over the world.
Trying to make other posters feel small because they enjoy two generations of a family bonding over some bubble gum TV on the weekend is a real cheap shot.

splinter65 · 23-11-2017 05:33PM

pilly wrote: »

First off, Blind Date was on at 9pm on a Sunday, not between 5 and 7 on a Saturday, you've obviously never even seen what you're calling filth.

Secondly, there was no more innuendo on it this time around than there was when Cilla Black did it.

You genuinely are blatantly judging the programme based off your dislike of Al Porter or maybe gay people in general, I'm not sure?

But I'll state it again, there was absolutely not once anything on Blind Date that I wouldn't be very comfortable to watch with my granny or children.

Al Porter. Fun for all the family.
Oh and if you don’t like his act you’re a homophobe.

Al Porter Scandal

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