November Series (non-Ireland)

Burkie1203 · 19-11-2017 04:00PM

Just seen these on Simon Thomas twitter feed. Is Launchbury (?) Creating a ruck therefore an offside line is formed.

The ref said he was happy Robshaw was onside which would imply a ruck was formed. Like how can they get these things so wrong with all the technology they have available. Imagine if that was a RWC Semi final.

https://twitter.com/NiMhaoilmhiaigh/status/932272008032907267

https://twitter.com/NiMhaoilmhiaigh/status/932275747825307648

corny · 19-11-2017 05:04PM

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Just seen these on Simon Thomas twitter feed. Is Launchbury (?) Creating a ruck therefore an offside line is formed.

The ref said he was happy Robshaw was onside which would imply a ruck was formed. Like how can they get these things so wrong with all the technology they have available. Imagine if that was a RWC Semi final.

https://twitter.com/NiMhaoilmhiaigh/status/932272008032907267

https://twitter.com/NiMhaoilmhiaigh/status/932275747825307648

Robshaw was back onside by the time he made the tackle.

The TMO got more than one decision wrong but the ref called this and he was spot on imo.

19-11-2017 05:24PM

If that was the last ruck before the tackle, there is no way that he could have been back onside is there?

19-11-2017 05:27PM

He ran back to an onside position before making the tackle

sydthebeat · 19-11-2017 06:11PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He ran back to an onside position before making the tackle

He made the tackle in the in goal area.... He couldn't possibly have been offside

19-11-2017 08:12PM

Deleted User wrote: »

He ran back to an onside position before making the tackle

When?

sydthebeat wrote: »

He made the tackle in the in goal area.... He couldn't possibly have been offside

Nope, initiated the tackle before getting in goal.

https://youtu.be/ZyvKo4SM1wk?t=2325

Ruck forms @ 38:54 in the video
@38:56 Robshaw is 2/3m offside but indeed retreating
@38:58 he initiates the tackle, ultimately getting driven into the in-goal area where he does brilliantly to hold up the ball carrier initially.

Clear enough from the video no?

edit - or is him making the tackle behind the back foot of the ruck enough?

19-11-2017 09:49PM

Deleted User wrote: »

edit - or is him making the tackle behind the back foot of the ruck enough?

I would have thought so. Ruck is around a meter from the try line. He makes the tackle around half a meter from the try line. He retreated and ran infield a bit. I think its fine.

corny · 20-11-2017 09:02AM

Deleted User wrote: »

When?

Nope, initiated the tackle before getting in goal.

https://youtu.be/ZyvKo4SM1wk?t=2325

Ruck forms @ 38:54 in the video
@38:56 Robshaw is 2/3m offside but indeed retreating
@38:58 he initiates the tackle, ultimately getting driven into the in-goal area where he does brilliantly to hold up the ball carrier initially.

Clear enough from the video no?

edit - or is him making the tackle behind the back foot of the ruck enough?

Draw an imaginary line off the hindmost foot at the last ruck. Robshaw tackles behind that line so how is he offside?

20-11-2017 11:47AM

That was a serious performance from Scotland on Saturday. They can potentially beat anyone in the 6N playing like that. Just that small bit of quality and ruthlessness nudged NZ ahead in the end.

Gator · 20-11-2017 01:30PM

Anyone any idea where finn russell is off to? he is stil playing or going to do something else?

Quintis · 20-11-2017 01:36PM

Gator wrote: »

Anyone any idea where finn russell is off to? he is stil playing or going to do something else?

Racing apparently

20-11-2017 01:36PM

Gator wrote: »

Anyone any idea where finn russell is off to? he is stil playing or going to do something else?

Oh of course he's still playing, don't know if it's official yet but the talk is he's going to Racing.

Digifriendly · 20-11-2017 01:50PM

Michael Cheika gives the impression of being a real whinger and from what we can judge (albeit from a distance) not someone you would particularly want to invite as a dinner guest. But maybe my impression of him is completely wrong. Anyone any idea what he was like when coaching Leinster? BTW this is not an evaluation of him as a coach as I think he is the best Australia have had since Bob Dwyer. Just his manner and personality.

irishbucsfan · 20-11-2017 01:57PM

Digifriendly wrote: »

Michael Cheika gives the impression of being a real whinger and from what we can judge (albeit from a distance) not someone you would particularly want to invite as a dinner guest. But maybe my impression of him is completely wrong. Anyone any idea what he was like when coaching Leinster? BTW this is not an evaluation of him as a coach as I think he is the best Australia have had since Bob Dwyer. Just his manner and personality.

Extremely hard-headed and abrasive when coaching Leinster supposedly, but was exactly what they needed at they time it turned out!

But there was quite a lot of discontent with Cheika at Leinster before he ended up winning the Heineken Cup. Talk about getting rid of him the very same year he won the trophy, especially after we lost against Castres in the groups. Turned around very fast as soon as we started winning, after that day in London in particular. That year and Cheika/Felipe/Rocky will never be forgotten now.

corny · 20-11-2017 02:55PM

Digifriendly wrote: »

Michael Cheika gives the impression of being a real whinger and from what we can judge (albeit from a distance) not someone you would particularly want to invite as a dinner guest. But maybe my impression of him is completely wrong. Anyone any idea what he was like when coaching Leinster? BTW this is not an evaluation of him as a coach as I think he is the best Australia have had since Bob Dwyer. Just his manner and personality.

I get the impression he's been told to cut that out.

He made a show of himself insisting Folau didn't pull Dilyn Leyds by the hair a few weeks ago but over the weekend he flatly refused to drawn on the contentious decisions. Big change given he probably had cause to be upset with some of the decisions. He talked about cultivating a no excuses culture from here too.

Bazzo · 20-11-2017 05:54PM

corny wrote: »

I get the impression he's been told to cut that out.

He made a show of himself insisting Folau didn't pull Dilyn Leyds by the hair a few weeks ago but over the weekend he flatly refused to drawn on the contentious decisions. Big change given he probably had cause to be upset with some of the decisions. He talked about cultivating a no excuses culture from here too.

He was very uncharacteristically composed throughout the match aswell. I thought someone had slipped him a Xanax...

irishbucsfan · 20-11-2017 06:01PM

corny wrote: »

I get the impression he's been told to cut that out.

He made a show of himself insisting Folau didn't pull Dilyn Leyds by the hair a few weeks ago but over the weekend he flatly refused to drawn on the contentious decisions. Big change given he probably had cause to be upset with some of the decisions. He talked about cultivating a no excuses culture from here too.

If he's been told to cut it out then picking a fight with a fan/fans at half time was probably not his best start!

corny · 20-11-2017 06:48PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

If he's been told to cut it out then picking a fight with a fan/fans at half time was probably not his best start!

Ah its a work in progress!

I see World Rugby weren't impressed by his efforts to restrain himself either.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2017/1120/921532-cheika-investigated-for-conduct/

swiwi_ · 20-11-2017 07:39PM

Digifriendly wrote: »

Michael Cheika gives the impression of being a real whinger and from what we can judge (albeit from a distance) not someone you would particularly want to invite as a dinner guest. But maybe my impression of him is completely wrong. Anyone any idea what he was like when coaching Leinster? BTW this is not an evaluation of him as a coach as I think he is the best Australia have had since Bob Dwyer. Just his manner and personality.

As far as I'm concerned he's a bit of a knob. His efforts with Leinster get him an easy ride on this forum, but if he didn't have that history behind him, he'd be fairly slated. It's always someone else's fault with Cheika, never so much a problem with his team or his coaching. The archetypal Aussie yob.

No comparison whatsoever with the way Joe Schmidt handles himself for example.

Clegg · 21-11-2017 06:05PM

Liam Williams has been ruled out of Wales' game against New Zealand. With Jonathan Davies also out long term Wales now have a very blunt back line.

Cuthbert is also missing but he's rubbish so it's no real loss for Wales. He's a body though and Wales seem to be running short of those. Could see a call up for Jamie Roberts at this rate.

swiwi_ · 21-11-2017 08:53PM

In this day & age, it's faaaarkin ridiculous that NZ have lost 3 players to mumps over the course of the tour.

Maybe it will take a player getting German measles, polio...or tetanus from a dirty wound...for the public to wake up.

Dunno what Ireland is like, but NZ is full of loony left-wing Green-voting parents who "distrust" vaccinations.

21-11-2017 08:56PM

swiwi_ wrote: »

In this day & age, it's faaaarkin ridiculous that NZ have lost 3 players to mumps over the course of the tour.

Maybe it will take a player getting German measles, polio...or tetanus from a dirty wound...for the public to wake up.

Dunno what Ireland is like, but NZ is full of loony left-wing Green-voting parents who "distrust" vaccinations.

Being anti-vaccinations isn't a 'left-wing' thing - it's a 'complete fcuking eejit' thing, there is a difference.

There has been an outbreak of measles the last few months, we have it here but not too bad yet.

Honestly, the only way to deal with anti-vaxx folks is unbridled ridicule and then ban their kids from school.

Would be over and done with in a year or two.

21-11-2017 08:56PM

Clegg wrote: »

Liam Williams has been ruled out of Wales' game against New Zealand. With Jonathan Davies also out long term Wales now have a very blunt back line.

Cuthbert is also missing but he's rubbish so it's no real loss for Wales. He's a body though and Wales seem to be running short of those. Could see a call up for Jamie Roberts at this rate.

He's already been called up I believe.

swiwi_ · 21-11-2017 09:01PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Being anti-vaccinations isn't a 'left-wing' thing - it's a 'complete fcuking eejit' thing, there is a difference.

There has been an outbreak of measles the last few months, we have it here but not too bad yet.

Honestly, the only way to deal with anti-vaxx folks is unbridled ridicule and then ban their kids from school.

Would be over and done with in a year or two.

Mumps is a relatively minor illness in kids...but in adult men it can be pretty savage...and leave you with redundant nuts.

No doubt there are some right-wing intellectuals who are also stridently anti-vaccination...

Burkie1203 · 21-11-2017 09:10PM

Clegg wrote: »

Liam Williams has been ruled out of Wales' game against New Zealand. With Jonathan Davies also out long term Wales now have a very blunt back line.

Cuthbert is also missing but he's rubbish so it's no real loss for Wales. He's a body though and Wales seem to be running short of those. Could see a call up for Jamie Roberts at this rate.

Roberts is in line to start according to a few welsh lads on twitter.

prawnsambo · 21-11-2017 09:52PM

swiwi_ wrote: »

No doubt there are some right-wing intellectuals who are also stridently anti-vaccination...

I'm sure Alex Jones has a diatribe or two against vaccination up on YouTube. I know he only ticks one of those boxes you mentioned.

21-11-2017 10:02PM

prawnsambo wrote: »

I'm sure Alex Jones has a diatribe or two against vaccination up on YouTube. I know he only ticks one of those boxes you mentioned.

I'll say it again, watch 1 minute of Alex Jones and then consider that he has the ear of the current President of the United States.

It's a really, really sad state of affairs.

PTH2009 · 22-11-2017 01:24AM

really don't want Wales beating the All Blacks cause they would never shut up about it and we witness a grining Warren Gatland

22-11-2017 08:48AM

PTH2009 wrote: »

really don't want Wales beating the All Blacks cause they would never shut up about it and we witness a grining Warren Gatland

They're going to get hammered. I'll be supporting them anyway, the sport is much more interesting when NZ aren't just steamrolling everyone.

Burkie1203 · 22-11-2017 08:55AM

Interesting

https://twitter.com/chjones9/status/933249136043986944

November Series (non-Ireland)

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