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Al Porter Scandal

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Kyng Shaggy Strap


    but1er wrote: »
    Why did no-one knock him out?

    He'll play the homophobic attack card and then they'd get into trouble


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    So such an attack on a woman would be rightly classed as a sexual assault which should by all means be reported to the Gardai, but when it happens to "a lad" it's just bantz?

    Jesus wept, I've no idea what decade your mindset is stuck in, but should I ever be so unfortunate to be assaulted in such a manner I most certainly not meekly brush it off.

    Sexual assault is equally reprehensible whether the victim is male or female.


    It’s uncommon but it does happen on the gay scene any random night. But not often at all. The thing here is it’s porters MO. consistently. He’s known for it. And it has worked for him often it seems as he kept doing it. But when challenged he goes ‘ah I’m only having a Buzz! Banter!’ bvll**** when you’re doa by it constantly.


    A reply from one of his accusers to his frankly appalling non apology-

    'The tone of the vitriol.' That's amazing. My apologies to Al Porter for calmly and accurately describing my experience. Wow. Sorry I was a bad victim bud twitter.com/TheAlPorter/st…


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 155 ✭✭jack hackett


    Why is that these sex pests are always men? like you will never see a headline saying Paula McSweeney caught being a sex pest or Muireann O Connell groped a member of Bellx1 in studio? What really annoys me is that Paula McSweeney is shoved into the 5am slot just so todayfm can say that they employee female presenters and Muireann O Connell, who should have actually got the lunchtime gig instead of Porter, she gets shoved around filling holes everywhere, dermot and dave get more holidays than teachers and she fills in and Porter was always off anyway so she may as well have been the lunchtime presenter, Todayfm need to learn from this hard lesson.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller


    david75 wrote: »
    It’s uncommon but it does happen on the gay scene any random night. But not often at all. The thing here is it’s porters MO. consistently. He’s known for it. And it has worked for him often it seems as he kept doing it. But when challenged he goes ‘ah I’m only having a Buzz! Banter!’ bvll**** when you’re doa by it constantly.


    A reply from one of his accusers to his frankly appalling non apology-

    'The tone of the vitriol.' That's amazing. My apologies to Al Porter for calmly and accurately describing my experience. Wow. Sorry I was a bad victim bud twitter.com/TheAlPorter/st…

    In fairness, he has received a barrage of abuse from lots of people unconnected with the allegations.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭LadyMacBeth_


    Why is that these sex pests are always men? like you will never see a headline saying Paula McSweeney caught being a sex pest or Muireann O Connell groped a member of Bellx1 in studio? What really annoys me is that Paula McSweeney is shoved into the 5am slot just so todayfm can say that they employee female presenters and Muireann O Connell, who should have actually got the lunchtime gig instead of Porter, she gets shoved around filling holes everywhere, dermot and dave get more holidays than teachers and she fills in and Porter was always off anyway so she may as well have been the lunchtime presenter, Todayfm need to learn from this hard lesson.

    I couldn't help myself :pac:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 155 ✭✭jack hackett


    I couldn't help myself :pac:

    is this Al Porter? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭but1er


    the facebook messages are just getting worse and worse. should of used snapchat ( i joke i joke )


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    In fairness, he has received a barrage of abuse from lots of people unconnected with the allegations.


    ‘Ah poor sex predator getting a hard time. Heart goes out to him.’

    He deserves the abuse he’s getting. The defence of him is baffling to me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller


    david75 wrote: »
    ‘Ah poor sex predator getting a hard time. Heart goes out to him.’

    He deserves the abuse he’s getting. The defence of him is baffling to me

    "Sex predator" Jesus, calm down. He's not Sidney Cooke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭Bunny Colvin


    He's finished. No one is going to take the chance of employing him again. Imagine if he was hired by someone and got up to his tricks again, it would be even worse because it was public knowledge what he was like. Why even take the chance?

    I've no sympathy for him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,208 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    So such an attack on a woman would be rightly classed as a sexual assault which should by all means be reported to the Gardai, but when it happens to "a lad" it's just bantz?

    Jesus wept, I've no idea what decade your mindset is stuck in, but should I ever be so unfortunate to be assaulted in such a manner I will most certainly not meekly brush it off.

    Sexual assault is equally reprehensible whether the victim is male or female.

    Depends on the person it happens to. I'm a guy, if a girl grabbed my arse in a nightclub I'm not going to go to the gardai and file a sexual assault charge. If she grabbed my cock I won't do it either. If al porter did it I couldn't really give a rats ass, it wouldn't really bother me tbh. Depends on the person it's happened to, circumstance and the way it happened is important. If I was in work and a supervisor did the exact same thing it would be different. Circumstances surrounding the incident is everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    Cienciano wrote: »
    So such an attack on a woman would be rightly classed as a sexual assault which should by all means be reported to the Gardai, but when it happens to "a lad" it's just bantz?

    Jesus wept, I've no idea what decade your mindset is stuck in, but should I ever be so unfortunate to be assaulted in such a manner I will most certainly not meekly brush it off.

    Sexual assault is equally reprehensible whether the victim is male or female.

    Depends on the person it happens to. I'm a guy, if a girl grabbed my arse in a nightclub I'm not going to go to the gardai and file a sexual assault charge. If she grabbed my cock I won't do it either. If al porter did it I couldn't really give a rats ass, it wouldn't really bother me tbh. Depends on the person it's happened to, circumstance and the way it happened is important. If I was in work and a supervisor did the exact same thing it would be different. Circumstances surrounding the incident is everything.

    Just to be clear, we're not talking a sly slap across the arse here, my comment was in relation to someone putting their hands beneath clothing and physically grabbing the penis.

    Do you not consider this sexual assault?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,295 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Ive seen some messages sent to a 15 yr old boy he met at a olpympia , totally in appropriate from a adult to a chld. Also did the crotch grabbing and a request for phone number and facebook details. What a silly man losing everything like that.

    Wow. If true that's a very serious allegation to add to the already extensive charge sheet. 15 is below the age of consent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    Just to be clear, we're not talking a sly slap across the arse here, my comment was in relation to someone putting their hands beneath clothing and physically grabbing the penis.

    Do you not consider this sexual assault?

    It can't be that easy to put your hands down the front of someone's pants if they're in front of you without them stopping you if they wanted.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Wow. If true that's a very serious allegation to add to the already extensive charge sheet. 15 is below the age of consent.

    Also screenshots of him laying it on heavy in a message to a guy (saying he’s got a bag of coke and gonna lick his hole etc. The screenshots are the nail in the coffin. No judgement on the coke thing it’s blatantly obvious any time you see him he’s flying but hey it’s just to help his flamboyant personality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,208 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Just to be clear, we're not talking a sly slap across the arse here, my comment was in relation to someone putting their hands beneath clothing and physically grabbing the penis.

    Do you not consider this sexual assault?

    It's hard to relate to this one because it would be impossible to just put your hand down my jeans. Assuming it's in a pub, I'd need to be wearing a tracksuit, and if it did happen I wouldn't be too bothered about it tbh. If it was done in work I'd be annoyed alright. I wouldn't go to the police about it either. More a HR thing.


  • Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    is that true?? WTF!!! bags of coke ha ha ha

    I had to laugh at matt cooper, the whole thing was very moot yesterday and they just outlined the timeline of events. When trump was caught just talking about being able to grab a woman downstairs, Matt cooper was on a orn for days...impeach impeach!! he's a sexual predator etc etc!!!! now we have a Today FM member acutally being reported for really grabbing guys by the mickey and it's cough cough, eh 2 minute statement but no discussion!!! for legal reasons me hole!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭showpony1


    Ive seen some messages sent to a 15 yr old boy he met at a olpympia , totally in appropriate from a adult to a chld. Also did the crotch grabbing and a request for phone number and facebook details. What a silly man losing everything like that.

    has he been found to be going after minors now too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Just to be clear, we're not talking a sly slap across the arse here, my comment was in relation to someone putting their hands beneath clothing and physically grabbing the penis.

    Do you not consider this sexual assault?

    It's hard to relate to this one because it would be impossible to just put your hand down my jeans. Assuming it's in a pub, I'd need to be wearing a tracksuit, and if it did happen I wouldn't be too bothered about it tbh. If it was done in work I'd be annoyed alright. I wouldn't go to the police about it either. More a HR thing.

    So if one was to do the same to a woman, i.e. place their hand beneath her clothing and physically grab her vagina, she should also just shrug such an attack off?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Noveight


    rusty cole wrote: »
    I had to laugh at matt cooper, the whole thing was very moot yesterday and they just outlined the timeline of events. When trump was caught just talking about being able to grab a woman downstairs, Matt cooper was on a orn for days...impeach impeach!! he's a sexual predator etc etc!!!! now we have a Today FM member acutally being reported for really grabbing guys by the mickey and it's cough cough, eh 2 minute statement but no discussion!!! for legal reasons me hole!

    Not surprising, unfortunately. Cooper would draw a target on his own back if he added to Porter being thrown under the bus.


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  • Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Noveight wrote: »
    Not surprising, unfortunately. Cooper would draw a target on his own back if he added to Porter being thrown under the bus.

    how so?? are the dying to lay him off? good, he's an arse!! cant stand him.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    He or his manager seem to have invested in twitter defence. Endless amounts of obviously bots / fake accounts defending him on there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    He'll play the homophobic attack card and then they'd get into trouble

    I think he would have just absolutely loved that.
    You can dine out in that for 40 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Don't mind them, Al. Don't mind the people angry at you sexualtiy assaulting people. We stand by you!!!

    I wouldn't have expected people who like Al Porter to be showing great judgement in any aspect of their life, so I'm not that shocked at the absolute mutants on twitter, sailing through any cognitive dissonance.

    Come back Al. Nobody else is good at making painful jokes about everything shaped even mildly phallic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,832 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    cisk wrote: »
    The groping and forced kissing of the young lad in the psychiatric ward is very Jimmy Savile. Abusing someone that vulnerable is pretty sickening.

    Thats what I thought. Or Father Brendan Smith who once sexually abused a young girl in her own bedroom while she was bedridden with the flu.

    Now that there are Facebook screenshots of Porter sniffing around a 15 year old Im beginning to wonder if he had other dealings with minors that have yet to come out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,254 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Thats what I thought. Or Father Brendan Smith who once sexually abused a young girl in her own bedroom while she was bedridden with the flu.

    Now that there are Facebook screenshots of Porter sniffing around a 15 year old Im beginning to wonder if he had other dealings with minors that have yet to come out?

    Given the speed of the resignations I can't help but wonder if there are skeletons under the bed that he's hoping will stay there if he keeps out of the limelight. Hopefully not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Never heard of him until this surfaced so he can't be that famous.
    If he's guilty then I don't want to hear of him again except when he's being locked up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Why is that these sex pests are always men? like you will never see a headline saying Paula McSweeney caught being a sex pest or Muireann O Connell groped a member of Bellx1 in studio? What really annoys me is that Paula McSweeney is shoved into the 5am slot just so todayfm can say that they employee female presenters and Muireann O Connell, who should have actually got the lunchtime gig instead of Porter, she gets shoved around filling holes everywhere, dermot and dave get more holidays than teachers and she fills in and Porter was always off anyway so she may as well have been the lunchtime presenter, Todayfm need to learn from this hard lesson.
    Arguably there are even higher barriers to men making a complaint about a woman doing the same thing. The popular perception that if an attractive and friendly woman gave you a little cupping or stuck her hands down your pants, you should be glad of the attention. And if you don't like you must be a pussy or a fag.

    Look at the posts here asking why the victims didn't fight back. If you're a man assaulted by a woman, what's your excuse? Even myself, I think ..might...tell my wife, but I may not go to the Gardai. Even telling my wife is a "depends". If it could be twisted in such a way that it suggested I've been cheating, I might be forced to keep it to myself.

    I would also suggest that the raw volume of sexual assaults by women on men is lower than men on women, simply down to very basic factors like size, strength and authority. That is, sexual assaults are more likely to happen when the abuser is in a position of power - physically, professionally or socially - over the abused. And men occupy these positions more than women do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,070 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    gramar wrote: »
    It can't be that easy to put your hands down the front of someone's pants if they're in front of you without them stopping you if they wanted.

    Classic victim blaming.

    This is what the likes of Jimmy Savile and countless other predators have preyed upon for decades.


    This folks is how monsters are continuously allowed to roam free even after being accused of their heinous crimes.

    Potential victims have come out and made serious credible accusations, Porter excused his actions as him just being flamboyant, but never denied nor really apologised for them. And yet, there are those among us that will see it as the victims fault for not stopping him.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    _Brian wrote: »
    Classic victim blaming.

    This is what the likes of Jimmy Savile and countless other predators have preyed upon for decades.


    This folks is how monsters are continuously allowed to roam free even after being accused of their heinous crimes.

    Potential victims have come out and made serious credible accusations, Porter excused his actions but never denied nor apologised for them. And yet, there are those among us that will see it as the victims fault for not stopping him.


    Have to agree. Just because it’s never happened to you personally, you can’t understand how it’s possible so therefore it isn’t posisble?

    Seriously?


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