Al Porter Scandal

pjohnson · 21-11-2017 07:49AM

Sam Quentin wrote: »

I am lmao(not really)at all these insinuations and filth ANNNND bile and judgemental comments lmao... About a 24yr old YOUNG FELLA..
Makes me realise how many nasty pieces of shít are on boards and social media in general.....
ffs he grabbed somebody by the goooolies(apparently).
And to make things EVEN worse for you nasty posters it was a few years ago jaysizzzzz creeeeest.
I'll have to take some of you with me on a Saturday night(on my rounds)and see what some youngsters get up to..Bloody Ridiculous.

If you regularly see non consenting goings on on a Saturday night then good for you. Hope you enjoy it.

screamer · 21-11-2017 07:56AM

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

I agree. Porter and his persona is 100% created by a media who encouraged it. Porter has talent and can do other things like sing Frank Sinatra type music well. But with all avenues in music closed off unless one sings modern country drivel or boyband pop crass, the only other route for Porter was to exploit a market for crude comedy. Tubridy and his Valentines show encouraged him and egged him on. Of course, Porter became the persona the media encouraged. Of course, Porter should not receive all the blame and those who encouraged and created him need to acknowledge their role in things too. The media should be open to all talent and not just certain types and Tubridy should not be encouraging filth on that Valentine's special: that thing should not go ahead next calendar year/this TV year.

I hate the way the media sold us vulgarity as normal and made one feel they were some kind of prude and religious nutcase if one was not open to it. I am not a prude and not a religious fanatic but I can see vulgarity on constant as both boring and also not funny as well as perhaps encouraging inappropriate behaviour and normalising it. Sadly, Porter is a product of that 'culture'. I blame Tubridy and his kind a lot for the normalisation of vulgarity. Mrs Brown and Gerry Ryan also need to be acknowledged for their contributions to smut too.

It's no excuse those. One is responsible for one's own actions.

ThunbergsAreGo · 21-11-2017 07:56AM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

If they actually wanted an apology from him, surely theyd have contacted him directly , or even through a lawyer , and not by telling the world on twitter thought, No? They move in the same circles do they not ( the fellow comedians)

A low key in person apology wouldn't increase their profile though would it.

I really hate Twitter

screamer · 21-11-2017 07:58AM

naughtb4 wrote: »

A low key in person apology wouldn't increase their profile though would it.

I really hate Twitter

An in person apology from someone who allegedly sexually assaulted you...... Ehm....I think you need to think that one out a bit.

BuilderPlumber · 21-11-2017 08:14AM

screamer wrote: »

It's no excuse those. One is responsible for one's own actions.

Yes and that goes for everyone. Porter himself should control himself and find some other way of making a career than via filth. The media too know full well what Porter is and they egged him on and made him the 'highlight' of such shows as Tubridy's Valentines special. But as long as RTE, TV3, Today FM and other media kept pushing him, he became the one of biggest things in post-Catholic Ireland. As all he has to do now is wait a few years, learn the Persian language and give post-Islamic Republic Iran his act and satisfy their audiences' newfound love of vulgarity.

gramar · 21-11-2017 08:22AM

He'll be back before long. New persona, new show. People will forget and move onto the next storm in the next teacup.

BuilderPlumber · 21-11-2017 08:26AM

screamer wrote: »

An in person apology from someone who allegedly sexually assaulted you...... Ehm....I think you need to think that one out a bit.

I also didn't like how both Porter and Tubridy defended that vile Valentine's special last year. They also had the wrong idea by equating all the people who oppose things like sexual innuendoes, vulgar jokes, making a laugh of abuser priests and too much cursing as prudes or religious fanatics. I don't want to see Ireland go back to being an austere Catholic country but either do I want to see displays of vulgarity on our screens. I know friends from Iran who want to see Tehran as a place where there is more availability of alcohol, pubs and music and less misinterpreted religion but I also know they would not like to see vulgarity taking over their TV screens either (which is what will happen sadly). This Porter scandal is a result of idolising all things irreverent and smutty and suddenly, the whole media are shocked when these people they encourage for smut do something smutty.

_Brian · 21-11-2017 08:42AM

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Al Porter's actions and his defence of them are disgusting. Porter is (yet) another media created 'sensation' whose artificially created 'fame' owes almost 100% to Tubridy, etc. and whose act concentrates on vulgarity. His lewd behaviour on the Valentines edition of Tubridy's show along with a show aired one Christmas called The Al Porter Show gives us all we need to know about what this man considers funny.

I daresay Porter is just the tip of the iceberg and is the result of all the promotion of sleaze that the media have engaged in. I blame Mrs Brown too for making vulgarity mainstream. I am sick of seeing dirt posing as comedy on our screens and as Porter proves, the perpetrators of dirt can engage in actions as well as words. When that happens, it is clearly time to discourage crude, vulgar comedians and their attempts to make obscene actions part of their as Porter calls it 'outrageous public persona'.

I 100% agree.
The thing that scares me is aparrently this is being produced as it’s what the “general public” want as entertainment. That scares the hell out of me as it seems Irish people have become a bunch of idiots entertained by the lowest form of wit.
I’ve seen so many posts online calling for Porter to still do the stupid panto “because it won’t be the same without him”

ThunbergsAreGo · 21-11-2017 09:17AM

screamer wrote: »

An in person apology from someone who allegedly sexually assaulted you...... Ehm....I think you need to think that one out a bit.

Yeah fair enough I just hate this twitter reveal culture

Cazale · 21-11-2017 09:20AM

_Brian wrote:

Now, that said, the general public has a short memory and are a fickle bunch, if he holds his hands up, does his time so to speak, I wouldnâ€™t be surprised if he didnâ€™t appear wringing his hands on the late late in a few years and then make imhis seedy way back into the public eye.

But his whole act and persona is based on crude sex jokes. Different scenario and less serious obviously but Ross and Brand came back from the Andrew Sachs scandal in the UK because they had a bit of substance to them and they could adapt. Nobody wants to listen to a sex pest doing willy jokes so with that part of his act gone he is a busted flush. On a personal level that is sad for him but it looks like the choices has made in life have come back to haunt him.

PowerToWait · 21-11-2017 09:22AM

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

I also didn't like how both Porter and Tubridy defended that vile Valentine's special last year. They also had the wrong idea by equating all the people who oppose things like sexual innuendoes, vulgar jokes, making a laugh of abuser priests and too much cursing as prudes or religious fanatics. I don't want to see Ireland go back to being an austere Catholic country but either do I want to see displays of vulgarity on our screens. I know friends from Iran who want to see Tehran as a place where there is more availability of alcohol, pubs and music and less misinterpreted religion but I also know they would not like to see vulgarity taking over their TV screens either (which is what will happen sadly). This Porter scandal is a result of idolising all things irreverent and smutty and suddenly, the whole media are shocked when these people they encourage for smut do something smutty.

Mrs Browns boys is one massive long micky joke. Lapped up by hundreds of thousands, most of them well into middle and old age.

Beechwoodspark · 21-11-2017 09:36AM

Cazale wrote: »

But his whole act and persona is based on crude sex jokes. Different scenario and less serious obviously but Ross and Brand came back from the Andrew Sachs scandal in the UK because they had a bit of substance to them and they could adapt. Nobody wants to listen to a sex pest doing willy jokes so with that part of his act gone he is a busted flush. On a personal level that is sad for him but it looks like the choices has made in life have come back to haunt him.

From what I've seen of his act, it was basically all lewd, crude and sexual themed.

As I said back in the thread, it's easy to imagine him with a list of his material and crossing it out line by line with a marker as it's completely inappropriate now.

cloudatlas · 21-11-2017 10:08AM

Are the people who say his life shouldn't be destroyed saying he shouldn't lose his job over this?

professore · 21-11-2017 10:09AM

Vladimir Poontang wrote: »

I guess it should come as no surprise that Al Porter defenders would have very screwed up ideas regarding acceptable behaviour.

And I bet they were the first ones sharpening the pitchforks for George Hook and Kevin Myers.

murpho999 · 21-11-2017 10:10AM

gramar wrote: »

He'll be back before long. New persona, new show. People will forget and move onto the next storm in the next teacup.

I actually don't think so. I actually think his media career is over.

Penn · 21-11-2017 10:12AM

murpho999 wrote: »

I actually don't think so. I actually think his media career is over.

Such a shame after decades in the entertainment industry. Y'know, 0.4 decades in the entertainment industry.

gramar · 21-11-2017 10:17AM

murpho999 wrote: »

I actually don't think so. I actually think his media career is over.

It won't be that long before he's back making jokes out of this situation and getting paid for it.

splinter65 · 21-11-2017 10:18AM

gramar wrote: »

He'll be back before long. New persona, new show. People will forget and move onto the next storm in the next teacup.

The reaction to allegations of sexual assault and blatant victim blaming is a storm in a teacup?

Roger Hassenforder · 21-11-2017 10:19AM

cloudatlas wrote: »

Are the people who say his life shouldn't be destroyed saying he shouldn't lose his job over this?

If he hadnt resigned and the allegations found to be true (as they seem to be), then Today FM and TV3 would be correct to sack him.

murpho999 wrote: »

I actually don't think so. I actually think his media career is over.

Hopefully his mainstream media career is over.
I couldnt stand him, I found him wholly unfunny, vulgar and very dated, but somehow there seems to be a market for that crap. Let them go out of their way to seek him out on stage, or buy a DVD, if thats their thing.

cloudatlas · 21-11-2017 10:20AM

gramar wrote: »

It won't be that long before he's back making jokes out of this situation and getting paid for it.

I really doubt that and I can't fathom why people are saying that, the first thing you would say as a human resources manager / comedy club promoter is don't hire this guy or we will a) probably have to engage a lawyer at some stage as he will be open to accusation b) paying punters won't want to come see a guy who sexually assaulted a struggling young man under psychiatric care.

Roger Hassenforder · 21-11-2017 10:21AM

Penn wrote: »

Such a shame after decades in the entertainment industry. Y'know, 0.4 decades in the entertainment industry.

have another look at that calculation there!

NIMAN · 21-11-2017 10:22AM

murpho999 wrote: »

I actually don't think so. I actually think his media career is over.

Its over because every employer will be afraid to be seen to support him, so no newspaper, TV station, panto etc will want to employ him again for fear of people associating them with a sex pest.

cloudatlas · 21-11-2017 10:24AM

_Brian wrote: »

I 100% agree.
The thing that scares me is aparrently this is being produced as it’s what the “general public” want as entertainment. That scares the hell out of me as it seems Irish people have become a bunch of idiots entertained by the lowest form of wit.
I’ve seen so many posts online calling for Porter to still do the stupid panto “because it won’t be the same without him”

It's sad people don't want to think anymore, there was a lot of satire, irony, slap stick that required people to know cultural references whereas Mrs. Brown is just pure innuendo and nothing more, no nuance.

Sugarlumps · 21-11-2017 10:25AM

74 pages and counting, remarkable. Didn't realize what a huge star he was?

Noveight · 21-11-2017 10:25AM

NIMAN wrote: »

Its over because every employer will be afraid to be seen to support him, so no newspaper, TV station, panto etc will want to employ him again for fear of people associating them with a sex pest.

That's it in a nutshell. He can only get so far without the backing of TV3/RTE and they wont want to be mentioned in the same sentence as the name Al Porter from now on.

Cienciano · 21-11-2017 10:25AM

According to Olaf Tyaransen of Hotpress on twitter Al did an interview a few days before the allegations and "I fear some of the words may come back to haunt him".

cloudatlas · 21-11-2017 10:26AM

Sugarlumps wrote: »

74 pages and counting, remarkable. Didn't realize what a huge star he was?

I think it's dragged on because of the 'it wasn't that bad' type comments, no reflection on his star so to speak, I had to google him to remember who he is, the only Irish comedian I pay any attention to is Dillon Moran.

gramar · 21-11-2017 10:27AM

cloudatlas wrote: »

I really doubt that and I can't fathom why people are saying that, the first thing you would say as a human resources manager / comedy club promoter is don't hire this guy or we will a) probably have to engage a lawyer at some stage as he will be open to accusation b) paying punters won't want to come see a guy who sexually assaulted a struggling young man under psychiatric care.

For the moment it's all allegations. Al is young, a public figure and popular with a lot of people. He'll be back because there will be promoters who can see him as a way of making money. People can have very short memories.
He'll rejig his persona and his material but he ain't finished.

splinter65 · 21-11-2017 10:28AM

No one in his immediate circle, family close friends etc seems to have able to stop him going too far.
Are they all blind?
If ,as it’s said, he’s been doing this for “years” (at 24?), then they can’t pretend they didn’t feel a bit uncomfortable at times.
That LLS was unbearable. Someone in his “inner circle” MUST have felt it was going in the wrong direction.
But no, both Today FM and TV 3 pop up with offers of prime time regular work, so obviously this is what people want...

murpho999 · 21-11-2017 10:28AM

gramar wrote: »

It won't be that long before he's back making jokes out of this situation and getting paid for it.

Really don't think so. I don't see who will hire him and making jokes about sexual assault and rape is just not done.

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