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Al Porter Scandal

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  • #722
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    And? Treat each case on its own merits.

    I think what the poster means is that this story will be much much bigger than the Porter story.

    Substitute the word scandal for story.


  • #723
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,363 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I'm guessing it'll be some unknown rte back office employee.

    But jez, it's going to hit the fan if it's a well known person


  • #724
    PowerToWait
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    Weepsie wrote: »
    The victim of any assault should be able to come forward whenever it is they are comfortable.

    Or indeed whenever their assaulter becomes famous.


  • #725
    Tommy Ferguson
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 93 ✭✭Tommy Ferguson


    fatknacker wrote: »
    Is this the same Al Porter from Yoker?

    Is yoker a dj grinder?


  • #726
    maudgonner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I'm guessing it'll be some unknown rte back office employee.

    But jez, it's going to hit the fan if it's a well known person

    He's been named in the Mirror and elsewhere as <SNIP> a horse racing producer.


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  • #727
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    fatknacker wrote: »
    Is this the same Al Porter from Yoker?

    Aye


  • #728
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,084 ✭✭✭✭josip


    maudgonner wrote: »
    He's been named in the Mirror and elsewhere as <SNIP>, a horse racing producer.

    Ok, back to Al Porter


  • #729
    Bananaleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    Have I read the link right - he was contacted by a group of people (presumably online) claiming to be an underage girl. He Then flew to Leeds to meet this gir? Was that the reason for the trip? And the group then contacted the police to have him arrested?


  • #730
    Tommy Ferguson
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 93 ✭✭Tommy Ferguson


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    Have I read the link right - he was contacted by a group of people (presumably online) claiming to be an underage girl. He Then flew to Leeds to meet this gir? Was that the reason for the trip? And the group then contacted the police to have him arrested?

    Al is it?


  • #731
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    Have I read the link right - he was contacted by a group of people (presumably online) claiming to be an underage girl. He proceeded to solicite sex and they then reported him?

    might have been those Silent Justice chaps/ladies
    they set up fake online profiles or something, and wait for a paedo to come sniffing


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  • #732
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I'm guessing it'll be some unknown rte back office employee.

    But jez, it's going to hit the fan if it's a well known person

    If it had been someone famous it would be all over the place by now.


  • #733
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,956 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Atoms for Peace wrote: »
    Just hearing reports that an rte employee has been arrested in Leeds for soliciting underage sex.
    The Al Porter scandal is fairly small fry compared to this if true. Expect inm to go to town on the story.

    Do you realise that not all RTE employees are presenters (most of which are self employed contractors not employees)?

    It's almost like people are baying for blood.


  • #734
    Bananaleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    might have been those Silent Justice chaps/ladies
    they set up fake online profiles or something, and wait for a paedo to come sniffing

    I realise this comes across as very pro-predator, but ... does this not fall into the category of entrapment?


  • #735
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    I realise this comes across as very pro-predator, but ... does this not fall into the category of entrapment?

    Not in the UK it seems there have been several successful prosecutions


  • #736
    tabby aspreme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,672 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    I realise this comes across as very pro-predator, but ... does this not fall into the category of entrapment?

    If the adult instigates the sexual talk / contact then it's not , heard one of these groups being interviewed recently


  • #737
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,039 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    I realise this comes across as very pro-predator, but ... does this not fall into the category of entrapment?

    It does in my book. If the so called victim doesn't even exist and the perv has been talking to a bunch of middle aged men, I'm not entirely sure what crime has been committed here (besides, what is to stop the entrapped man saying he knew full well he was talking to a group of vigilantes and came along to confront them?).


  • #738
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,039 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    tabby aspreme wrote: »
    If the adult instigates the sexual talk / contact then it's not , heard one of these groups being interviewed recently

    There doesn't seem to have been a single such prosecution in Ireland and I have a feeling such 'stings' may be illegal in many European countries.


  • #739
    tabby aspreme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,672 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Strazdas wrote: »
    There doesn't seem to have been a single such prosecution in Ireland and I have a feeling such 'stings' may be illegal in many European countries.

    That's probably why this particular sting took place in the uk


  • #740
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,039 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    tabby aspreme wrote: »
    That's probably why this particular sting took place in the uk

    Yeah, it strikes me as a very dodgy area legally.

    I could have a conversation with you on Facebook and say I have €100 worth of drugs for sale and if you agree to meet me, I'll sell you them. Given that I'm not a drug dealer and the drugs don't even exist, it's very hard to see how this could stand up in a court of law if I tried to get you prosecuted or even arrested.


  • #741
    tonycascarino
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭tonycascarino


    Atoms for Peace wrote: »
    Just hearing reports that an rte employee has been arrested in Leeds for soliciting underage sex.
    The Al Porter scandal is fairly small fry compared to this if true. Expect inm to go to town on the story.

    That's true. It is supposed to be in the Times tomorrow. I wonder who it is...


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  • #742
    PARlance
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,637 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    tabby aspreme wrote: »
    That's probably why this particular sting took place in the uk

    Was wondering how he got caught in Leeds until a quick glance of his Facebook page shows that he's a Leeds United fan. They were playing today at home so he had reason to be over there.


  • #743
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,363 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    tonycascarino wrote: »
    That's true. It is supposed to be in the Times tomorrow. I wonder who it is...

    There's already a video of his arrest and entrapment on boards, have a look.


  • #744
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fair play to them.

    Deserves what he gets if true.


  • #745
    Neil Issagum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Neil Issagum


    tonycascarino wrote: »
    That's true. It is supposed to be in the Times tomorrow. I wonder who it is...

    Don’t know if we’re allowed name him here? Probably not but I think someone else already did

    He has 2 Facebook pages, one with his real name with his actual friends list, and another one with a fake name but his real picture, if you look at the friends list it’s literally every friend is a young teen girl


  • #746
    tabby aspreme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,672 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Yeah, it strikes me as a very dodgy area legally.

    I could have a conversation with you on Facebook and say I have €100 worth of drugs for sale and if you agree to meet me, I'll sell you them. Given that I'm not a drug dealer and the drugs don't even exist, it's very hard to see how this could stand up in a court of law if I tried to get you prosecuted or even arrested.

    It may be covered by the crime of grooming or attempting to groom an underage child


  • #747
    Greenmachine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    So he has apologised now, so seemingly everything is alright. Just wondering why the media has so gleeful using flattering photographs considering what he is admitting. (e.g. the photos included in his pre-release). Surely the papers have artistic licence to use any photo that has been published in his social media, could they not a have found an unflattering photo.


  • #748
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The video of him getting busted is on Facebook


  • #749
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,363 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    RoboKlopp wrote: »
    The video of him getting busted is on Facebook

    The video of him getting busted is on Boards.


  • #750
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    NIMAN wrote: »
    The video of him getting busted is on Boards.

    Ah right, didnt see it here


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  • #751
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,039 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    tabby aspreme wrote: »
    It may be covered by the crime of grooming or attempting to groom an underage child

    Yes, maybe "intent" to commit a crime or something. I'm sure I read an article though that this type of sting is illegal in many countries in Europe. The British seem to be one of a handful to allow it and use it as evidence in a court.


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