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Al Porter Scandal

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭Ewan Hoosarmi


    Oh, ffs.

    There are plenty of jobs out there that don't involve sticking your hands down peoples pants to maintain your "flamboyant and outrageous" persona.


    "awful bleak future"

    Give me a break.
    Must be a great view from that height. Did you miss that part where I said his actions were unforgivable, if true?

    Loads of people on this thread have never made a single mistake in their lives, apparently. Can we not wait until he is actually found guilty before we construct the gallows?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Do people concern themselves with how other scumbags fair in their personal lives?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Trond


    Will he change his stage name from Al Porter to Willie Stroker?

    Dole Porter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    I didn't like him or his act, but that's an awful bleak future to be facing into. I feel sorry for the lad. Not condoning his actions, they are unforgivable, if true.

    The trouble is: it doesn't matter much whether they're true or not at this stage. The damage is done.

    I don't agree to be honest. What he did was ****ty yes, and I'm not saying all should be forgotten, but we live in a world of 24hr media saturation. This seems like a big deal now (not saying it isn't, talking in terms of attention-worthy scandal) but this will die down and he will live a totally normal life again. Not the life he has now, but a life. Somewhere else. Doing something else. People won't remember this in a few years. Not that it's a positive or anything, but there are so many allegations coming out of the woodwork these days I'm losing track of who is and isn't at it myself!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    He will be totally fine - outside of Ireland and over time this will be a non-isue. Canada. Australia. He will go into hiding for a few years, change his act/persona/whatever and most likely move out of Ireland.

    By the time he's working again (be it in public eye or not) there will be many more scandals to have hit the headlines and his will have been forgotten about.

    They have the internet in Canada and Australia now you know. You can't just rock up, ask to be on telly and say you decided on a new challenge.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Sure he wouldn't have had long left with his act anyway, surely. He's not remotely innovative. His shtick was done to death in the 90's and he seemed to have no intention of adapting or progressing.

    I wouldn't be feeling too sorry for him. He had well peaked. You only come back from this if you're good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,764 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    I was touched by Al Porters apology.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,502 ✭✭✭Ken Tucky


    Stheno wrote: »
    He allegedly sexually assaulted five men

    Wow, OK. Crazy sh*t. I'm out so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    Ken Tucky wrote:
    OK so I've gone back through a lot of the thread but I still haven't a notion of what AP has done!! Excuse my ignorance(or not really giving a f**K) but what the hell happened. Was it something he said or did.....allegedly of course

    It's literally linked in the first post on this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭seanin4711


    100% grayditch


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    They have the internet in Canada and Australia now you know. You can't just rock up, ask to be on telly and say you decided on a new challenge.

    Do they?? Didn't know!
    No, but seriously, I know that. I posted two posts so don't know if this was in the one you quoted, but, I don't mean that he is going to fly over tonight!

    If he disappears for a few years, changes the name and chases a different career path, I don't know, say, bookstore owner as an example of one thing that popped right into my head just now.

    My point is, people are saying 'He's ruined' 'that's his life over'. I'm saying, it's not. Al Porter the comedian and radio dj - that life is over yes. But to suggest his options are to either starve to death or go on the dole and hide out at his mammies are over-dramatic. He'll still be earning feck loads more than me for many years to come! (not bitter about his massive wage, honestly lol, I'm in the same boat as those who didn't even know he existed until a year ago!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭Rekop dog


    The Jimmy Seville pics and comparisons are way OTT though, we can't just lump every sex offender into the most severe category.

    What he's alleged to have done is bad but I'm sure if we're honest we all know of an overly gropey drunk from our close or extended friends group that we kinda passed it off in the past with a rolleyes and not much more. They didn't face consequences of losing their jobs or be publicly shamed on every social media platform.
    That of course is expected in the industry he's in but a little perspective is needed and overly sticking the knife in a guy at his lowest point is unnecessary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,667 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Rekop dog wrote: »
    The Jimmy Seville pics and comparisons are way OTT though, we can't just lump every sex offender into the most severe category.

    What he's alleged to have done is bad but I'm sure if we're honest we all know of an overly gropey drunk from our close or extended friends group that we kinda passed it off in the past with a rolleyes and not much more. They didn't face consequences of losing their jobs or be publicly shamed on every social media platform.
    That of course is expected in the industry he's in but a little perspective is needed and overly sticking the knife in a guy at his lowest point is unnecessary.

    If he tried it on with a patient in a psychiatric hospital , while supposedly helping people in the hospital, he is not far removed from Saville.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Ten Pin wrote: »
    Mining industry
    Coal Porter

    We found out he's at least good at digging a hole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,173 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Brego888 wrote: »
    Well well well


    https://twitter.com/roakleyIRL/status/931647550838460416

    National broadsheet reporting it now so surely we are allowed comment.

    Shame the Sunday Times isn't so on the ball. The Culture section has Porter's Today FM show as 'pick of the day' for Tuesday.:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭Rekop dog


    If he tried it on with a patient in a psychiatric hospital , while supposedly helping people in the hospital, he is not far removed from Saville.

    Well knowing what Saville did and from hearing the account of what it's alleged Al Porter did I'd argue it's very far removed. Molestation of youths and groping an adult outside his trousers are world's apart. One would probably get a life sentence, the other would probably avoid a fine.

    I'm not making light of the abuse of someone vulnerable but again perspective is needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,643 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    Do they?? Didn't know!
    No, but seriously, I know that. I posted two posts so don't know if this was in the one you quoted, but, I don't mean that he is going to fly over tonight!

    If he disappears for a few years, changes the name and chases a different career path, I don't know, say, bookstore owner as an example of one thing that popped right into my head just now.

    My point is, people are saying 'He's ruined' 'that's his life over'. I'm saying, it's not. Al Porter the comedian and radio dj - that life is over yes. But to suggest his options are to either starve to death or go on the dole and hide out at his mammies are over-dramatic. He'll still be earning feck loads more than me for many years to come! (not bitter about his massive wage, honestly lol, I'm in the same boat as those who didn't even know he existed until a year ago!)
    His chosen career is over .Obviously he may get other work but if be is convicted of anything its going to be very hard for him to head to Canada or Oz no matter what he decides to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,208 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Wow, I can't believe his lawyers had a few days and that was what they came up with. All they're short of saying is "the real victim here is Al". Terrible stuff, he needs to sack his pr/legal people.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    Do they?? Didn't know!


    If he disappears for a few years, changes the name and chases a different career path, I don't know, say, bookstore owner as an example of one thing that popped right into my head just now.

    My point is, people are saying 'He's ruined' 'that's his life over'. I'm saying, it's not. Al Porter the comedian and radio dj - that life is over yes. But to suggest his options are to either starve to death or go on the dole and hide out at his mammies are over-dramatic. He'll still be earning feck loads more than me for many years to come! (not bitter about his massive wage, honestly lol, I'm in the same boat as those who didn't even know he existed until a year ago!)

    What do you think he'll be earning feck loads of money as?

    My point was that he's at a very early stage of his adult life for this to have happened. Most people who resign/ leave jobs have other options and are not publicly vilified in the press and social media over alleged behaviour. Suggesting that he disappears for a few years and changes his name is fairly extreme action for him to have to take and would certainly be life changing in one's twenties.


    If there is one thing I am uncomfortable with this and other similar events it's the "trial by social mefia" that appears to have supplanted our justice system. Given that the media have named him publucly in this country where legal action is threatened for less, there may well be substance to the allegations, but the way it has been handled is devoid of due process


  • Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Wow, I can't believe his lawyers had a few days and that was what they came up with. All they're short of saying is "the real victim here is Al". Terrible stuff, he needs to sack his pr/legal people.

    Yeah, they're the problem here alright


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭Rekop dog


    Also the username thanking various posts on this page is wildly out of line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Aineoil


    Stheno wrote: »
    If there is one thing I am uncomfortable with this and other similar events it's the "trial by social mefia" that appears to have supplanted our justice system. Given that the media have named him publucly in this country where legal action is threatened for less, there may well be substance to the allegations, but the way it has been handled is devoid of due process


    I feel the same way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    He will be totally fine - outside of Ireland and over time this will be a non-isue. Canada. Australia. He will go into hiding for a few years, change his act/persona/whatever and most likely move out of Ireland.

    By the time he's working again (be it in public eye or not) there will be many more scandals to have hit the headlines and his will have been forgotten about.

    If this goes to court and leads to a conviction he can chalk those 2 countries off places he would like to visit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Rekop dog wrote: »
    Well knowing what Saville did and from hearing the account of what it's alleged Al Porter did I'd argue it's very far removed. Molestation of youths and groping an adult outside his trousers are world's apart. One would probably get a life sentence, the other would probably avoid a fine.

    I'm not making light of the abuse of someone vulnerable but again perspective is needed.

    Porter is alleged to have groped genitalia, not “outside” someone’s trousers; inside.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭Don Kiddick


    Rekop dog wrote: »
    Also the username thanking various posts on this page is wildly out of line.

    He'll be along to thank yours in a minute!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,340 ✭✭✭deco nate


    Rekop dog wrote: »
    Also the username thanking various posts on this page is wildly out of line.

    That's the troll that keeps coming back, pity you can't report a thanks in this case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭Ewan Hoosarmi


    He'll be along to thank yours in a minute!
    Oh no he won't. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Must be a great view from that height. Did you miss that part where I said his actions were unforgivable, if true?

    Loads of people on this thread have never made a single mistake in their lives, apparently. Can we not wait until he is actually found guilty before we construct the gallows?

    You said he had a "bleak future"

    A bleak future shouldn't be attributed to someone in this situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    http://www.thejournal.ie/al-porter-resignation-3705969-Nov2017/

    He has resigned from Today FM with immediate effect.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    Stheno wrote: »
    What do you think he'll be earning feck loads of money as?

    My point was that he's at a very early stage of his adult life for this to have happened. Most people who resign/ leave jobs have other options and are not publicly vilified in the press and social media over alleged behaviour. Suggesting that he disappears for a few years and changes his name is fairly extreme action for him to have to take and would certainly be life changing in one's twenties.


    If there is one thing I am uncomfortable with this and other similar events it's the "trial by social mefia" that appears to have supplanted our justice system. Given that the media have named him publucly in this country where legal action is threatened for less, there may well be substance to the allegations, but the way it has been handled is devoid of due process

    I said feck loads more than me. Won't be as much as he's used to, but I'm sure he'll still live.

    It is fairly extreme action to have to take when you are that young. But, if you are in a high profile position and you rely on the public opinion to earn your crust, then you behave in a way that is likely to damage that public opinion, you have to kind of expect that.

    I agree with you - the role that social media plays in our justice system is disconcerting. But so is social media's role in everything about our society imo


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