Al Porter Scandal

VinLieger · 19-11-2017 12:40PM

Curious if the panto will go ahead or if hes gonna be in it, i dont care but theres a hell of a lot of people with tickets

volchitsa · 19-11-2017 12:41PM

Sorry, may have been confusing him with some of the US ones, but he certainly hasn't admitted to them, ok?

Unlike Hook.

More importantly though, both the allegations and the possible sanctions are on a completely different scale. Porter is entitled to presumption of innocence. Hook was the "victim" of a business decision by his employers.

Dev84 · 19-11-2017 12:42PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Curious if the panto will go ahead or if hes gonna be in it, i dont care but theres a hell of a lot of people with tickets

It cant.
After today fm removing him there is no way the panto will go ahead with him.

It would be an abdolute disaster should and when more accusations come to light.

Ash.J.Williams · 19-11-2017 12:44PM

Ballstein wrote: »

The fella who ran the Gate theatre got flayed cause he TOLD a woman she looked well. Trump is still being hounded because he TALKED ABOUT grabbing a woman by the pussy. Porter went into the jacks and stuck his hand down a fellas pants grabbing his junk, yet he’s “only messing” sure “he’s great craic”.
The problem with setting off a mob to lynch someone is that sometimes the mob lynch people who you don’t want lynched. Old white men like Hook can’t even say a word that doesn’t fit the current narrative without the mob demanding his removal, yet one of the most respected newspapers in the world run a front page headline with 4 independent allegations and all of a sudden certain people are saying there’s no proof.

Colgan said she looked like she lost enough weight that he'd almost **** her

blade1 · 19-11-2017 12:46PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Curious if the panto will go ahead or if hes gonna be in it, i dont care but theres a hell of a lot of people with tickets

Dev84 wrote: »

It cant.
After today fm removing him there is no way the panto will go ahead with him.

It would be an abdolute disaster should and when more accusations come to light.

It can't go ahead.
Health and safety issue.
Imagine the stampede when somebody shouts "he's behind you".

Ash.J.Williams · 19-11-2017 12:47PM

Dev84 wrote: »

It cant.
After today fm removing him there is no way the panto will go ahead with him.

It would be an abdolute disaster should and when more accusations come to light.

The thing with Porter is... It matters not whether the allegations are true or false... The fact is all his panto material is now obselete... He's only there to tell micky jokes to parents

splinter65 · 19-11-2017 12:50PM

Dev84 wrote: »

But he's not obliged to defend himself on social media.

I wouldnt hesitate to think that if he has gone to a solicitor to take advice he has been told to say nothing until a statement is prepared by a good PR company and his solicitor.

If I was accused of a sexual assault I didn’t commit in an orchestrated effort to destroy my career, I definitely wouldn’t silently step aside from my work commitments while a PR/legal team deliberated all weekend over the wording of my statement.
It’s the ultimate injustice to be accused in the wrong of something so heinous.
If the Facebook message doesn’t exist or his Facebook account was hacked then that’s easily proven.
If is not true then It’s a very straightforward case of defamation if the Times is saying that Al Porter attacked this guy.
I can’t understand what you think he’s waiting for if the allegations are spurious.
His career has evaporated in 48 hours while he waits for these spin doctors to word a statement.
There isn’t even a suggestion that there will be a statement.

seamus · 19-11-2017 01:04PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Curious if the panto will go ahead or if hes gonna be in it, i dont care but theres a hell of a lot of people with tickets

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

The thing with Porter is... It matters not whether the allegations are true or false... The fact is all his panto material is now obselete... He's only there to tell micky jokes to parents

There are plenty of other performers along the same lines in Ireland. They'll easily get a replacement for Porter who'll slot right into it.

Porter was the big name draw for the Panto, he wasn't going to be doing anything that 100 other less-known comedians aren't capable of.

The only funny thing about this, are those people falling over themselves to claim some kind of "victory" over "left wing liberals" because a popular gay performer has been alleged to have committed sexual assaults.

And then they'd already written the book on what the "liberal media's" response was going to be before anyone made a response.

splinter65 · 19-11-2017 01:13PM

seamus wrote: »

There are plenty of other performers along the same lines in Ireland. They'll easily get a replacement for Porter who'll slot right into it.

Porter was the big name draw for the Panto, he wasn't going to be doing anything that 100 other less-known comedians aren't capable of.

The only funny thing about this, are those people falling over themselves to claim some kind of "victory" over "left wing liberals" because a popular gay performer has been alleged to have committed sexual assaults.

And then they'd already written the book on what the "liberal media's" response was going to be before anyone made a response.

Seamus do you not agree that the silence is deafening ?

Roger Hassenforder · 19-11-2017 01:14PM

seamus wrote: »

T
The only funny thing about this, are those people falling over themselves to claim some kind of "victory" over "left wing liberals" because a popular gay performer has been alleged to have committed sexual assaults.
.

There's nothing funny about this.

strandroad · 19-11-2017 01:18PM

splinter65 wrote: »

Seamus do you not agree that the silence is deafening ?

Wait for the Monday papers and radio...

Roger Hassenforder · 19-11-2017 01:19PM

Dev84 wrote: »

But he's not obliged to defend himself on social media.

I wouldnt hesitate to think that if he has gone to a solicitor to take advice he has been told to say nothing until a statement is prepared by a good PR company and his solicitor.

Well his PR company isn't up to scratch. First rule of crisis management is 'silence is not golden'.
TodayFM issued a statement fairly quick, nothing concrete, just they take the allegations seriously and are concerned about the welfare of one of their staff.
Nada from Porter himself.

smurgen · 19-11-2017 01:20PM

seamus wrote: »

There are plenty of other performers along the same lines in Ireland. They'll easily get a replacement for Porter who'll slot right into it.

Porter was the big name draw for the Panto, he wasn't going to be doing anything that 100 other less-known comedians aren't capable of.

The only funny thing about this, are those people falling over themselves to claim some kind of "victory" over "left wing liberals" because a popular gay performer has been alleged to have committed sexual assaults.

And then they'd already written the book on what the "liberal media's" response was going to be before anyone made a response.

The treatment has been different.we are talking about the hypocrisy.even the responses here defending him have a different tone. Weinstein was predatory yet Al Porters alleged victims wouldn't have felt threatened cause they were male.this is the line some posters are following and it's sickening.

razorblunt · 19-11-2017 01:36PM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Well his PR company isn't up to scratch. First rule of crisis management is 'silence is not golden'.
TodayFM issued a statement fairly quick, nothing concrete, just they take the allegations seriously and are concerned about the welfare of one of their staff.
Nada from Porter himself.

He might have had decent PR representation if he hadn't been being making jibes about Anton Savage being "he who can't be named" around Today FM earlier in the week.

WHIP IT! · 19-11-2017 01:38PM

eviltwin wrote: »

How do you know these people haven't been to the gardai? Unfortunately it's one persons word against another's and the guards probably won't bother with it.

Seriously? Are you actually making that argument? You think the "victims" went to the Garda and were told "Al Porter, no way, he's a gas lad... get out!"... would ye stop, man. There were no reports made to the Garda, you know that as well as I do.

suicide_circus · 19-11-2017 01:39PM

smurgen wrote: »

The treatment has been different.we are talking about the hypocrisy.even the responses here defending him have a different tone. Weinstein was predatory yet Al Porters alleged victims wouldn't have felt threatened cause they were male.this is the line some posters are following and it's sickening.

It's abject hypocrisy and is proof, if any were needed, that people don't give a tuppenny ****e about victims, it's all about tribalism, identity politics and point scoring

NIMAN · 19-11-2017 01:42PM

One grown man going to the Gardai over another grown man touching his dick?

Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I would call that wasting police time.

If another man touched my dick I'd tell him to get to feck. If he did it again, I'd deck him.

When did the world become so soft?

WHIP IT! · 19-11-2017 01:44PM

pjohnson wrote: »

so you can get away with things if you are young. George Hook and Louis CK touched no one but got hounded out of work. Porter deserves the same.

You missed my point. I don't and didn't agree with their treatment either. The silver lining for them is, they have had their careers and made their money.

retro:electro · 19-11-2017 01:44PM

NIMAN wrote: »

One grown man going to the Gardai over another grown man touching his dick?

Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I would call that wasting police time.

If another man touched my dick I'd tell him to get to feck. If he did it again, I'd deck him.

When did the world become so soft?

Good for you. So you'd deck him- then what? Does that negate his crime? Nope. All that does is make one crime become two.

You could kung fu him in the ball sack and it still wouldn't mitigate his crime against you.

blade1 · 19-11-2017 01:44PM

NIMAN wrote: »

One grown man going to the Gardai over another grown man touching his dick?

Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I would call that wasting police time.

If another man touched my dick I'd tell him to get to feck. If he did it again, I'd deck him.

When did the world become so soft?

So you're saying it's better to be hard when a man touches your dick?

splinter65 · 19-11-2017 01:46PM

NIMAN wrote: »

One grown man going to the Gardai over another grown man touching his dick?

Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I would call that wasting police time.

If another man touched my dick I'd tell him to get to feck. If he did it again, I'd deck him.

When did the world become so soft?

I’m trying to picture a man (you) lying in bed in a psychiatric hospital having made a suicide attempt and having your penis and scrotum fondled and squeezed by a visiting celebrity and you saying “get to feck” and thinking no more about it....

eviltwin · 19-11-2017 01:46PM

NIMAN wrote: »

One grown man going to the Gardai over another grown man touching his dick?

Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I would call that wasting police time.

If another man touched my dick I'd tell him to get to feck. If he did it again, I'd deck him.

When did the world become so soft?

You can't win here. You make allegations and your told go to the guards, you do that and you are wasting their time. It's this kind of attitude that makes it harder for male victims to come forward because they are judged for not.fighting back.

The Talking Bread · 19-11-2017 01:49PM

Niman just looking for a reaction, me thinks.

I think I will deck him if he makes a similar post again.

NIMAN · 19-11-2017 01:50PM

I think we are going to need to employ a lot more Guards.

The Talking Bread · 19-11-2017 01:51PM

NIMAN wrote: »

I think we are going to need to employ a lot more Guards.

Or else give the ones currently doing f*ck all something to do

splinter65 · 19-11-2017 01:52PM

NIMAN wrote: »

I think we are going to need to employ a lot more Guards.

Absolutely. In house psychiatric patients need to get over themselves and get a sense of humor. It’s only a bit of banter.

The Talking Bread · 19-11-2017 01:53PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Curious if the panto will go ahead or if hes gonna be in it, i dont care but theres a hell of a lot of people with tickets

All publicity is good publicity I suppose.

NIMAN · 19-11-2017 01:55PM

eviltwin wrote: »

You can't win here. You make allegations and your told go to the guards, you do that and you are wasting their time. It's this kind of attitude that makes it harder for male victims to come forward because they are judged for not.fighting back.

I think once again its a case of considering every crime at the same level as belittling the real ones.

As Julia Hartley Brewer said about the guy who resigned from the UK cabinet for touching her knee 15 years previously. "Seriously, he resigned for that?".

OF course if someone is raped or seriously sexually assaulted, you should involve the police. But if someone slaps your bum or tells you that they'd feck you if you lost a bit of weight, do some think these require police time?

All crimes aren't the same.

NIMAN · 19-11-2017 01:57PM

Maybe Julian Cleary would be free?

The Talking Bread · 19-11-2017 01:59PM

Mr.S wrote: »

No chance it will go ahead with him in it. Presumably they'll just give it to the stand-in if they can't find some one this last minute.

Of course it won't

Resident stand in on the circuit, Karl Spain will step in!

But, seriously, they would have been rehearsing that for a fair while now, you would imagine.

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