Al Porter Scandal

rustynutz · 19-11-2017 01:18AM

evolving_doors wrote: »

Oh yes it is....

This is no ordinary panto...... Its a gaaaaay panto...

Sorry, ill get my coat

AlfaZen · 19-11-2017 01:21AM

rustynutz wrote: »

This is no ordinary panto...... Its a gaaaaay panto...

Sorry, ill get my coat

He’s behind you!!

19-11-2017 01:25AM

AlfaZen wrote: »

He’s behind you!!

no that's his career

Snowfire · 19-11-2017 01:25AM

AlfaZen wrote: »

He’s behind you!!

Lol

mbur · 19-11-2017 01:31AM

WOW. I didn't know Pammy was friends with Julian Assange. What will they think of next?

JP Liz V1 · 19-11-2017 01:56AM

Rackstar wrote: »

Didn't porter stick his crotch in a fellas face on blind date?

I thought that ott campness is his shtick

Any comment from him yet?

glenfieldman · 19-11-2017 01:59AM

Berserker wrote: »

This story may end up in the courts here whilst the others won't?

Sorry but that is BS, Pat Hickeys case will be heard in Brazil but comments were closed for all his articles,
The Journal are really obvious to whom they close comments.

glenfieldman · 19-11-2017 02:17AM

To the people that are crying "innocent until proven guilty
Trump, Spacey, Harvey, etc haven't been proven guilty or has there been video evidence of their crimes, so why is it ok to go social media judge and jury on them but not Porter

Grayditch · 19-11-2017 02:28AM

Spacey admitted it and Weinstein was caught on audio tape and has pretty much admitted it, you mad yoke.

PARlance · 19-11-2017 02:32AM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

I saw him once in the international. He's definitely a pro. There were proper funny comedians there that night but Porter obviously has years of Billy Barry experience and had control of the whole room.

Had he got them by the balls?

glenfieldman · 19-11-2017 02:48AM

Grayditch wrote: »

Spacey admitted it and Weinstein was caught on audio tape and has pretty much admitted it, you mad yoke.

Just because Porter hasn't admitted that makes him innocent.
Four individuals have the same story regarding what happened

Grayditch · 19-11-2017 03:02AM

glenfieldman wrote: »

Just because Porter hasn't admitted that makes him innocent.
Four individuals have the same story regarding what happened

Cool. I don't have an opinion on whether he did it or not.

RDM_83 again · 19-11-2017 03:09AM

Don't know how to feel about this.

It obviously seems like points scored in the eternal online culture wars and it's interesting how violence isn't considered an appropriate response by some posters who I am sure would have no problems with the idea of a dude who stuck his hands into a woman's pants having catching a fist* or are happy enough with jail sentences for "aggressive staring"

But this doesn't seem to have the same power dynamic thing seen in other recent abuse cases particularly since they relate to a few years back when he must have been properly young, it is just different to those cases IMO particularly if no charges or statements made previously.

*Terry crews statement is pretty pertinent about why this response may not be a good idea for the victim but it doesn't change the ethics of it.

KKkitty · 19-11-2017 03:19AM

I believe his accusers. Why else would they say he's done this to them. His accusers don't seem like they want to make a quick buck off this but to make others aware that this is the sort of behaviour that Al Porter is capable of. I never went out of my way to watch Al Porter or listen to him on radio but there's no smoke without fire as the saying goes. The fact that he's been obviously instructed to go on any kind of leave speaks volumes.

end of the road · 19-11-2017 03:49AM

KKkitty wrote: »

I believe his accusers. Why else would they say he's done this to them.

unfortunately people have made accusations of such a nature before, which have turned out to be false. reasons are unknown. i don't know whether the allegations against al porter are true or not, and we will find out in time, but people do make allegations that turn out to be false from time to time, for reasons unknown.

KKkitty wrote: »

His accusers don't seem like they want to make a quick buck off this but to make others aware that this is the sort of behaviour that Al Porter is capable of.

that could very well be true, we don't know, we will in time know whether it's true or false. however, a number of people who have made allegations which later turned out to be false, have been very convincing.

KKkitty wrote: »

I never went out of my way to watch Al Porter or listen to him on radio but there's no smoke without fire as the saying goes.

there's no smoke without fire is not really a valid statement in relation to allegations, as sometimes there very much is smoke without fire. whether this particular case is one of those cases, i don't know.

KKkitty wrote: »

The fact that he's been obviously instructed to go on any kind of leave speaks volumes.

not reallly. it is standard procedure these days for people who have had allegations made against them to be taken off air while the allegations are investigated.

deco nate · 19-11-2017 03:55AM

Him sending a sexual message to a member of a band that was on his show through Facebook is a big reason why he is on leave from today fm.

splinter65 · 19-11-2017 04:46AM

end of the road wrote: »

unfortunately people have made accusations of such a nature before, which have turned out to be false. reasons are unknown. i don't know whether the allegations against al porter are true or not, and we will find out in time, but people do make allegations that turn out to be false from time to time, for reasons unknown.

that could very well be true, we don't know, we will in time know whether it's true or false. however, a number of people who have made allegations which later turned out to be false, have been very convincing.

there's no smoke without fire is not really a valid statement in relation to allegations, as sometimes there very much is smoke without fire. whether this particular case is one of those cases, i don't know.

not reallly. it is standard procedure these days for people who have had allegations made against them to be taken off air while the allegations are investigated.

It’s standard procedure for people who have been accused and who intend to contest the allegations to issue a statement in which they refute these frankly vile allegations and sometimes even instruct their legal advisors re defamation.
No such statement has been issued.
Even in a criminal court of law much can be inferred from this silence.
He isn’t even alleging that his Facebook account was hacked to send the offensive message.

KKkitty · 19-11-2017 05:15AM

end of the road wrote: »

unfortunately people have made accusations of such a nature before, which have turned out to be false. reasons are unknown. i don't know whether the allegations against al porter are true or not, and we will find out in time, but people do make allegations that turn out to be false from time to time, for reasons unknown.

that could very well be true, we don't know, we will in time know whether it's true or false. however, a number of people who have made allegations which later turned out to be false, have been very convincing.

there's no smoke without fire is not really a valid statement in relation to allegations, as sometimes there very much is smoke without fire. whether this particular case is one of those cases, i don't know.

not reallly. it is standard procedure these days for people who have had allegations made against them to be taken off air while the allegations are investigated.

If Al Porter has nothing to hide why is his social media presence dead in the water? If you were accused of something like him would you be on everything possible to say the truth? He's been inappropriate in his behaviour. Call a spade a spade FFS.

19-11-2017 06:40AM

splinter65 wrote: »

Even in a criminal court of law much can be inferred from this silence.

No it can't.

You're thinking of silence in the context of questioning by Gardai. No one has to respond to media speculation or Twitter.

Canis Lupus · 19-11-2017 08:17AM

KKkitty wrote: »

If Al Porter has nothing to hide why is his social media presence dead in the water? If you were accused of something like him would you be on everything possible to say the truth? He's been inappropriate in his behaviour. Call a spade a spade FFS.

Would it make a difference considering you were straight up 'inclined to believe the accusers'.

Woodville56 · 19-11-2017 09:31AM

Well, well, well, who next ? The luvvies of the Left championed by Porter in his media columns and so called “comic” turns are strangely quiet on this issue for a change ? But then it’s not a priest or centrist politician that’s in the spotlight this time. Innocent until proven guilty by all means, but only if you’re a lefty liberal it seems. Puts Porter’s nasty vindictive put downs of Enda Kenny over the years in some perspective.

CalamariFritti · 19-11-2017 09:41AM

Whether he's done something that warrants being examined closer or not is one thing. The other thing however is this culture of public witch hunt which seems to be establishing itself. And it is quite a disturbing thing.
Lets say for a moment all he did was being rather forward in his sexual advances and no more. Which some may find disgusting some may not but hardly a crime. And in any case even if he did something that may be criminal, he is still deemed innocent until proven guilty before a court of law. Did his accusers even go the guards?
Now twitter and the public lynch mob is effectively judge and jury and even if nothing comes out of it in terms of behaviour that warrants criminal charges, something will stick. Which is a really bad thing. It means you can effectively destroy someone on twitter and everyone jumping at him on forums like this are basically complicit. They are are part of this wilful, easy to manipulate lynch mob. People want to have a think about that.

19-11-2017 09:43AM

If you've ever had the misfortune of seeing one of his shows you'd already know he's an absolute scumbag.
He picks someone out of the crowd (male) and spends the evening threatening to rape him.
To the amusement of 50 year old woman pissed on white wine.

soiseztomabel · 19-11-2017 09:46AM

Woodville56 wrote: »

Well, well, well, who next ? The luvvies of the Left championed by Porter in his media columns and so called “comic” turns are strangely quiet on this issue for a change ? But then it’s not a priest or centrist politician that’s in the spotlight this time.

Was pretty much echoing what you said last night and was asking why the same people who were asking for Hook to be lynched weren't doing the same for Al Porter despite his accusations being more severe.

Was answered with a shrug of the shoulders and a resounding "I dunno.... it's different i suppose" fraid not my'dears. You stand for something or you stand for nothing, and the coverage of this by most show more of the latter than the former by our eternally outraged pals. It just goes to show you can be picky when baying for that required pound of flesh and those sweet sweet fb likes and shares.

tigger123 · 19-11-2017 09:52AM

soiseztomabel wrote: »

Was pretty much echoing what you said last night and was asking why the same people who were asking for Hook to be lynched weren't doing the same for Al Porter despite his accusations being more severe.

Was answered with a shrug of the shoulders and a resounding "I dunno.... it's different i suppose" fraid not my'dears. You stand for something or you stand for nothing, and the coverage of this by most show more of the latter than the former by our eternally outraged pals. It just goes to show you can be picky when baying for that required pound of flesh and those sweet sweet fb likes and shares.

If Al Porter had the cultural penetration that George Hook had, it would be a different story.

George Hook, at least until recently, was transmitting his views straight into peoples homes every day. When he made the comments he did, it resonated much more through society.

The allegations against Al Porter aren't given the same attention because his media profile and impact is far, far lower.

CalamariFritti · 19-11-2017 09:53AM

BrownFinger wrote: »

If you've ever had the misfortune of seeing one of his shows you'd already know he's an absolute scumbag.
He picks someone out of the crowd (male) and spends the evening threatening to rape him.
To the amusement of 50 year old woman pissed on white wine.

I don't know this guy I'm just about aware of his stage persona and I don't like it myself. But I wouldn't ask for tar and feathers based on that. And thats what you're doing isn't it?

JMNolan · 19-11-2017 09:59AM

KKkitty wrote: »

I believe his accusers.

19-11-2017 10:04AM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

I don't know this guy I'm just about aware of his stage persona and I don't like it myself. But I wouldn't ask for tar and feathers based on that. And thats what you're doing isn't it?

You sit tight so and report back during the week.
I've seen him in action and he's a nasty bit of work.

CalamariFritti · 19-11-2017 10:08AM

But it doesn't matter is my point. Even if he is and all is true this public witch hunt is a terrible thing. If this becomes the norm its only matter of time until someone innocent is going to be destroyed by the mob.

glenfieldman · 19-11-2017 10:11AM

BrownFinger wrote: »

If you've ever had the misfortune of seeing one of his shows you'd already know he's an absolute scumbag.
He picks someone out of the crowd (male) and spends the evening threatening to rape him.
To the amusement of 50 year old woman pissed on white wine.

Hey hey hey, im a SWM, 37 AND Im pissed on white wine. What are you impying :P

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