Al Porter Scandal

She would be convicted if her actions weren't proportional. If it was obvious that he was trying to force himself on her then of course it would be reasonable for her to beat him off and maybe give him a few slaps for good measure but if she kept beating him and he died or if all he did was put a hand on her knee and she beat him then she would and should face charges.

It's very fashionable at the moment to destroy any man who makes any mistake at all, like George Hook who misread public opinion and maybe deserved a dressing down. He didn't deserve to be destroyed. The liberals enjoy a good hanging though. Their position on most things is so indefensible that if they get a rival in the open they can't help but pull the trigger - saves having to debate the point with him later. And anything that saves a liberal from having to defend their point of view is a good thing. A bit like Pro Abortion liberals tearing down posters and intimidating hotel staff and the Oireachtas Committee on Abortion inviting mainly Pro Abortion speakers to address the Committee prior to the vote and afterwards inviting Pro Life speakers to try and lend an air of validity to the proceedings. God forbid they would have to listen to the Pro Life argument.

There was a scene in a nightclub or bar on the dancefloor on the Living with Lucy series which I thought was a bit risque at the time.

Malayalam wrote: »

I don't mean slapping bottoms, that's probably quite common and easy to shrug off. I don't go to night clubs but I am hoping that people don't actually casually insert their hands into strangers underwear and feel their privates. Maybe they do and I am just behind the times.

Happened to me in a nightclub and the girl dug her nails into me.wasn't even talking to her.took her hand off me and told a bouncer.she god throw out and looked disgusted that i had gotten her removed

splinter65 wrote: »

Yes. Lots of older gay men in the entertainment industry in particular get tired of constantly swimming against the tide and they get jaded and weary of the scene and often come across as catty and a bit vicious.
This is hardly a newsflash.
What else is getting really really wearying is this constant rushing to get offended on someone else’s behalf.
“Quick. Splinter has made what appears to be a critiscm of gay people.i only have a feeling that she’s being critical but nonetheless I feel I must immediately correct her and tell her that she’s a homophobe”.

I don't know if you're a homophobe or not. I imagine your "Queens" comment as well as your sweeping generalisations may be offensive to plenty of people gay or straight. You seem to be an expert on the personalities of older gay men in the entertainment industry. I'll leave it there as I'm not bothered arguing with you.

wakka12 wrote: »

I think its nearly too common to be considered serious sexual assault.

The incidence of an event doesn't determine its criminality.

Its really common at clubs for that to happen to women ,most of me female friends say it happens a lot and they just kind of dont care.

Do you mean women tell you they have their flaps rubbed in a club by any randomer and they're grand with that - or that you're making false analogies? Care to share what clubs they frequent?

Women on hen parties you'll see always slapping mens bums and pinching them, they usually seem to laugh it off

No doubt they do, why wouldn't most of them... Wouldn't blame them if they took exception to it though.

When I go to gay clubs men slap each others asses a lot too. I just take it as a bit of a laugh..maybe Im very thick skinned but it doesn't really bother me. Its not like you have to get with them..and if they persist just say **** off and they will

I bet they're after more than 'a bit of a laugh' - am failing to see how that could be in any way funny, especially in the context of a gay bar.

Just from how common it is and the fact that it doesn't seem to a affect people that much it doesn't seem like serious sexual assault

Is grabbing a woman by the flaps a serious sexual assault?

What about getting a lad by the balls?

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Wasn't the alleged "victim" a grown man in his 30s or something? Why didn't he just tell Al to f*ck off and get on with his life instead of whining all over twitter or whatever he's doing. "Man up", as they say.

Would you cop on. If a woman was grabbed by the crotch it would mean jail time for sexual assault. This rubbish of men not being victims too is infuriating.

TV3 were due to show Blind Date at 7, showing The Cube now instead.

I may be basing my opinion on television/film, but would be right in saying that the gay scene is a lot more "sexually charged" than a regular pub/night environment. It just seems to me that those of that sexual orientation drink a lot more/party a lot more frequently than their counterparts, and that one night stands/clandestine hook-ups are lot more common-place. Probably an after-shoot of when homosexuality was illegal and they were treated very much as second-class citizens

So I suppose then, I am not that surprised that a nationally famous young gay man has been allegedly caught

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

It's completely different in my opinion. I would have just Al where to go and hit him a box probably.

A person being grabbed by the genitalia is sexual assault. Gender doesnt come into it.